Does anyone here have a Ryzen 5000 CPU?

[MikeB]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

What engine is this ?

From the website: http://ipmanchess.yolasite.com/amd---in ... -bench.php

For this Chess Bench i use asmFishW_2017-05-22 and type in console: bench 1024 128 26 (just change cores/threads)

Download from Github: https://github.com/lantonov/asmFish/tre ... es/Windows
Direct download asmFish 2017-05-22 Windows & Linux : https://mega.nz/#!aQB3nSAY!Js7t0ws5U_K1 ... w83ObNeGew

From these new AMD Ryzen cpu's we know there are some problems when using BMI2 compiles ,so i let them try also pop version.(Fixed in ZEN 3!)

[Ras]

That's why you should use a good thermal pad for laptops.

That's also bad because there are no good thermal pads in terms of heat transfer. Their only advantage is that they are faster and easier to mount, i.e. a cost reduction. The usual solution against the pump-out-effect is a thermal paste that is somewhat thicker and dryer than for usage on heat spreaders of desktop CPUs.

[Raphexon]

That's why you should use a good thermal pad for laptops.

That's also bad because there are no good thermal pads in terms of heat transfer. Their only advantage is that they are faster and easier to mount, i.e. a cost reduction. The usual solution against the pump-out-effect is a thermal paste that is somewhat thicker and dryer than for usage on heat spreaders of desktop CPUs.

Graphite pads come close enough.

Obviously you won't be doing great overclocks on it, but that's not why you buy a laptop.
It's much better than thermal paste drying up because of a baseplate that applies uneven pressure. Uneven pressure is the biggest reason why in laptops the paste eventually pools up on the other edges and dries out.

In laptop cases the Tdelta between fresh paste and a good graphite pad is only a few degrees celcius at most.



Better than fresh paste? No.
A hell lot better than dry and much easier in use.

[Ras]

Graphite pads come close enough.

These require high mounting pressure - which you have with desktop coolers, but not in laptops.

[JohnWoe]

I got: 1227 (Single-Core Score) 6256 (Multi-Core Score)

That's pretty OK for a 4800U when I browser Geekbench for that. My 4700U is expectionally high. It also matters a lot how the cooling system is designed.

However, I strongly disadvise against re-pasting the laptop just like that. For one, it's easy to bend these copper heatpipes just from disassembling them, and then they don't work anymore. What's worse is that laptops are very prone to the pump-out-effect. Paste that is good for desktop coolers may degrade in laptops in a matter of mere weeks because it gets pumped out from where it's supposed to be.

I have (3200Mhz 8x8 GB DDR4 RAM). I'm running Cinnamon maybe there are faster desktops.

I have 2x16GB 3200 RAM. I don't think you really have 8x8GB because I don't think there's a laptop that would support eight RAM bars (maybe you have 2x32GB, or 2x8GB?). Cinnamon isn't the most lightweight desktop, but I'm on Cinnamon, too, so that won't be a factor.

Anyway I love my ThinkPad

Yeah, it's a nice thing for sure!

Have you got issues with your ThinkPad's keyboard.
My shift key hinge just broke off. I was coding in Vim. Like I always do. Never had this kind of issues w/ any laptop.

I posted on reddit:
I asked Lenovo's support but nothing.

[MikeB]

Asus Laptop:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
System Model ROG Zephyrus G14 GA401QM
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS with Radeon Graphics, 3301 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes

$ ./asmFishW_2017-05-22_popcnt.exe
asmFishW_2017-05-22_popcnt
setoption name LargePages value true
bench 1024 16 26 true
*** bench hash 1024 threads 16 depth 26 realtime 0 ***
info string hash set to 1024 MB page size 2048 KB
info string node 0 has threads 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1: nodes: 240709011 31531 knps
2: nodes: 469248432 33756 knps
3: nodes: 21780803 56573 knps
4: nodes: 121712172 37892 knps
5: nodes: 146066849 34263 knps
6: nodes: 111668503 33096 knps
7: nodes: 182366376 35226 knps
8: nodes: 544217541 35504 knps
9: nodes: 521250613 33177 knps
10: nodes: 81482352 38819 knps
11: nodes: 332061989 32450 knps
12: nodes: 727130473 31151 knps
13: nodes: 95349589 36687 knps
14: nodes: 297918250 32491 knps
15: nodes: 82115330 38425 knps
16: nodes: 61852387 45446 knps
17: nodes: 106962382 57291 knps
18: nodes: 24202346 61740 knps
19: nodes: 39002195 59364 knps
20: nodes: 166331010 62695 knps
21: nodes: 16336056 70718 knps
22: nodes: 41783647 96275 knps
23: nodes: 26222369 82460 knps
24: nodes: 63957567 49811 knps
25: nodes: 33396355 64847 knps
26: nodes: 5356977 51018 knps
27: nodes: 24568417 52496 knps
28: nodes: 162630802 43765 knps
29: nodes: 39205505 40627 knps
30: nodes: 7947246 59753 knps
31: nodes: 3788245 74279 knps
32: nodes: 2435870 62458 knps
33: nodes: 2624898 62497 knps
34: nodes: 7024701 60557 knps
35: nodes: 8902337 60974 knps
36: nodes: 1467954 73397 knps
37: nodes: 2736038 51623 knps
===========================
Total time (ms) : 134130
Nodes searched : 4823813587
Nodes/second : 35963718

Ipman Comparables
36.981.208 Intel Core i9 7960X @3.6Ghz 16cores BMI2 anonymous
36.797.698 Intel Core i9 7900X @4.0Ghz 20threads pop Monstru
36.769.439 2x Intel Xeon E5-2660 v3 20cores BMI2 DeeDs
36.563.156 AMD EPYC 7281 32threads pop Patrick @ ServeTheHome.com
36.404.057 Intel Core i9 7920X 24threads BMI2 hv
36.171.301 Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 18cores BMI2 anonymous
35.944.207 Intel Xeon E5-2686v3 @2.2GHz 36threads BMI2 bunkbail
35.521.226 AMD EPYC 7272 24threads pop Patrick @ ServeTheHome.com
35.197.485 Intel Core i9 7900X @4.0Ghz 20threads BMI2 Monstru
35.134.407 AMD Ryzen R9 3900X @4.15Ghz 24threads BMI2+LP P.J


Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7790858
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/2794722

[Modern Times]

Have you got issues with your ThinkPad's keyboard.
My shift key hinge just broke off. I was coding in Vim. Like I always do. Never had this kind of issues w/ any laptop.

I've got a work Thinkpad, had it for a couple of years now I think. Really high quality piece of kit, no problems with it at all. From that positive experience, I bought an Ideapad for my own use. That has been fine also.

[Chessqueen]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

We are far far away from reaching Deep Blue NPS, in a commercial computer. Deep Blue, with its capability of evaluating 200 million positions per second, was the first and fastest computer to face a Chess Champion (1997). But this clearly show that NPS is NOT everything since Komodo and Stockfish play much much better than Deep Blue did in 1997 which evaluated 200 million positions per second

Nodes/second CPU Cores/Threads BMI2/popcnt Member
4.801.341.606 128 cpu's x32 threads Cluster System 4096threads Stockfish pop vondele

[Chessqueen]

Asus Laptop:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
System Model ROG Zephyrus G14 GA401QM
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS with Radeon Graphics, 3301 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes

$ ./asmFishW_2017-05-22_popcnt.exe
asmFishW_2017-05-22_popcnt
setoption name LargePages value true
bench 1024 16 26 true
*** bench hash 1024 threads 16 depth 26 realtime 0 ***
info string hash set to 1024 MB page size 2048 KB
info string node 0 has threads 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1: nodes: 240709011 31531 knps
2: nodes: 469248432 33756 knps
3: nodes: 21780803 56573 knps
4: nodes: 121712172 37892 knps
5: nodes: 146066849 34263 knps
6: nodes: 111668503 33096 knps
7: nodes: 182366376 35226 knps
8: nodes: 544217541 35504 knps
9: nodes: 521250613 33177 knps
10: nodes: 81482352 38819 knps
11: nodes: 332061989 32450 knps
12: nodes: 727130473 31151 knps
13: nodes: 95349589 36687 knps
14: nodes: 297918250 32491 knps
15: nodes: 82115330 38425 knps
16: nodes: 61852387 45446 knps
17: nodes: 106962382 57291 knps
18: nodes: 24202346 61740 knps
19: nodes: 39002195 59364 knps
20: nodes: 166331010 62695 knps
21: nodes: 16336056 70718 knps
22: nodes: 41783647 96275 knps
23: nodes: 26222369 82460 knps
24: nodes: 63957567 49811 knps
25: nodes: 33396355 64847 knps
26: nodes: 5356977 51018 knps
27: nodes: 24568417 52496 knps
28: nodes: 162630802 43765 knps
29: nodes: 39205505 40627 knps
30: nodes: 7947246 59753 knps
31: nodes: 3788245 74279 knps
32: nodes: 2435870 62458 knps
33: nodes: 2624898 62497 knps
34: nodes: 7024701 60557 knps
35: nodes: 8902337 60974 knps
36: nodes: 1467954 73397 knps
37: nodes: 2736038 51623 knps
===========================
Total time (ms) : 134130
Nodes searched : 4823813587
Nodes/second : 35963718

Ipman Comparables
36.981.208 Intel Core i9 7960X @3.6Ghz 16cores BMI2 anonymous
36.797.698 Intel Core i9 7900X @4.0Ghz 20threads pop Monstru
36.769.439 2x Intel Xeon E5-2660 v3 20cores BMI2 DeeDs
36.563.156 AMD EPYC 7281 32threads pop Patrick @ ServeTheHome.com
36.404.057 Intel Core i9 7920X 24threads BMI2 hv
36.171.301 Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 18cores BMI2 anonymous
35.944.207 Intel Xeon E5-2686v3 @2.2GHz 36threads BMI2 bunkbail
35.521.226 AMD EPYC 7272 24threads pop Patrick @ ServeTheHome.com
35.197.485 Intel Core i9 7900X @4.0Ghz 20threads BMI2 Monstru
35.134.407 AMD Ryzen R9 3900X @4.15Ghz 24threads BMI2+LP P.J


Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7790858
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/2794722

Am I using the latest Benchmarck, and if so is my intel i7 7440 3.40 GHz too slow ?
https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-i ... h.1643065/

bench 1024 8 26
*** bench hash 1024 threads 8 depth 26 realtime 0 ***
info string hash set to 1024 MB no large pages
info string node 0 has threads 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1: nodes: 208853197 10012 knps
2: nodes: 498369189 10852 knps
3: nodes: 22182974 17577 knps
4: nodes: 174098649 12242 knps
5: nodes: 129689631 11388 knps
6: nodes: 115186023 10743 knps
7: nodes: 74165643 11528 knps
8: nodes: 391342276 11506 knps
9: nodes: 152991148 11319 knps
10: nodes: 44148283 13019 knps
11: nodes: 195187578 11110 knps
12: nodes: 124187338 10594 knps
13: nodes: 50263698 12469 knps
14: nodes: 454672801 11252 knps
15: nodes: 79002936 13000 knps
16: nodes: 55056837 15125 knps
17: nodes: 9754039 14115 knps
18: nodes: 15401509 17723 knps
19: nodes: 29817694 20065 knps
20: nodes: 73765428 18432 knps
21: nodes: 9279968 21581 knps
22: nodes: 17353825 27633 knps
23: nodes: 27464729 25266 knps
24: nodes: 36918282 16079 knps
25: nodes: 46522695 20975 knps
26: nodes: 3616231 16588 knps
27: nodes: 14268156 16985 knps
28: nodes: 198737810 14690 knps
29: nodes: 46340987 13874 knps
30: nodes: 8196896 17936 knps
31: nodes: 2208953 21037 knps
32: nodes: 2736576 20422 knps
33: nodes: 2385901 21302 knps
34: nodes: 7308601 19386 knps
35: nodes: 2638313 18845 knps
35: nodes: 3262451 17540 knps

[Alayan]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

We are far far away from reaching Deep Blue NPS, in a commercial computer. Deep Blue, with its capability of evaluating 200 million positions per second, was the first and fastest computer to face a Chess Champion (1997).

Typical chessqueen nonsense. We are so "far away" from 200Mnps that the 3990X already does more than this on the asmfish bench.