Hi,
When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.
If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?
-Sam
Lemming name
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Re: Lemming name
I'm partial to Snow Lemming, but I would rather have a learning version.
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BubbaTough wrote:Hi,
When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.
If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?
-Sam
I voted "Lemming" although I do like the sound of "Learning Lemming", It kinda lyrically rhyme.
Good to know that the version will be released finally, I'm sure you will get a lot of reports, bugs, stats, games etc in as short time as possible.
Good luck!
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Rename the non-learning version goldfish.BubbaTough wrote:Hi,
When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.
If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?
-Sam
Matthew Hull
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I like the current name, the whole learning animal thing fascinates me.
Silly suggestion, Learning Goat.
Silly suggestion, Learning Goat.
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I suggest LazyLemming, it's so lazy it doesn't want to learn
Why is it being released without learning, though?
Why is it being released without learning, though?
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LazyLemming is not bad. I am not very happy with the learning yet, but if I wait until I am, I may never release this sucker...as my development time is expected to be quite low for the next few years.Ovyron wrote:I suggest LazyLemming, it's so lazy it doesn't want to learn
Why is it being released without learning, though?
Before I release a learning version I would like to come up with a method for combining the learning done on everyone's computer in some useful way, that is resistant to some minor number of bad learn files. This is not that easy, and is lower in priority right now than adding SMP support, which may also take a long time. If I can get learning working this way, there is a chance for some seriously cool effects if folks can be convinced to let me regularly harvest their learn files in exchange for a new "collective knowledge" file.
The primary learning method I use, by the way, learns from conducting post game analysis, or studying games of others, and is done in a separate program that creates a file that LearningLemming reads when a new game is started. That means the learning program uses serious resources, and is not achieved via book-keeping (tracking wins/losses, memorizing positions, etc.) during games like in most computer chess learning. People that do not want a separate program sitting around on their computer sucking up resources may not want Lemming learning anyway. I know most testers don't .
-Sam
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Most of you dont seem to realize how good this engine is.. Here is the rating of the engine from ICC.
For comparison, here is the rating of Crafty
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Information about LearningLemming(C) (Last disconnected Thu Oct 30 2008 04:29):
rating [need] win loss draw total best
Wild 1859 [6] 0 2 0 2
Bullet 2511 2243 3523 358 6124 2810 (29-Jul-2007)
Blitz 2714 6387 4293 1458 12138 2971 (26-Sep-2008)
Standard 2567 1865 1007 411 3283 2744 (11-Aug-2008)
For comparison, here is the rating of Crafty
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Statistics for crafty(C) On for: 58 Idle: 58
rating [need] win loss draw total best
Wild 2032 [6] 344 109 11 464 2204 (03-Oct-2000)
Bullet 2797 8792 1909 1381 12082 3286 (27-Dec-2002)
Blitz 2391 67999 26169 18138 112306 3388 (09-Jun-2000)
Standard 2470 7291 4964 3580 15835 2792 (25-Oct-2000)
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Thanks Tony for the info,a quite impressive engine indeedTony Thomas wrote:Most of you dont seem to realize how good this engine is.. Here is the rating of the engine from ICC.
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Information about LearningLemming(C) (Last disconnected Thu Oct 30 2008 04:29): rating [need] win loss draw total best Wild 1859 [6] 0 2 0 2 Bullet 2511 2243 3523 358 6124 2810 (29-Jul-2007) Blitz 2714 6387 4293 1458 12138 2971 (26-Sep-2008) Standard 2567 1865 1007 411 3283 2744 (11-Aug-2008)
For comparison, here is the rating of Crafty
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Statistics for crafty(C) On for: 58 Idle: 58 rating [need] win loss draw total best Wild 2032 [6] 344 109 11 464 2204 (03-Oct-2000) Bullet 2797 8792 1909 1381 12082 3286 (27-Dec-2002) Blitz 2391 67999 26169 18138 112306 3388 (09-Jun-2000) Standard 2470 7291 4964 3580 15835 2792 (25-Oct-2000)
I'd like to test it with learning function switched on
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Well, it is available on ICC to test against with learning on RIGHT NOW! The author also accepts grudge match appointments (on ICC) against all comers.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: I'd like to test it with learning function switched on
-Sam