Hi there,
I start a new thread to FCP Tourney-2022.
The old thread was disorganized, sorry!
1. FCP Tourney-2022, detail site:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-tourney-2022.htm
2. Configuration-2022, engine configuration site (next week I am working on it).
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conf ... n-2022.htm
The tourney will start November 08th, 2021.
Best
Frank
FCP Tourney-2022 ...
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
Logo is ready!
Thanks to Wilhelm Hudetz (AUT).
Configuration site is ready!
Updates until November 08th, 2021 will be add, configuration site will be change.
Next week I will config the new AMD system for the tourney.
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conf ... n-2022.htm
Best
Frank
Logo is ready!
Thanks to Wilhelm Hudetz (AUT).
Configuration site is ready!
Updates until November 08th, 2021 will be add, configuration site will be change.
Next week I will config the new AMD system for the tourney.
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conf ... n-2022.htm
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
the weakest engine in the group of 41 engines is Vajolet2 2.8 (FCP Tourney-2021).
I am not sure with ...
1. Bit-Genie 9
2. Drofa 3.2.0
3. Counter 3.9
4. Invictus r382
in playing strength.
Maybe this engines are stronger as Vajolet2 2.8 (3012 Elo) or Nirvanachess 2.5 (3027 Elo).
I will add ...
5. Wasp 4.50
6. Vajolet2 2.8
7. Stash 31.0
8. Demolito 2021-07-09
for a test-tourney on Intel i9-10900k, 4.4Ghz with 40 moves in 14 minutes, 768Mb hash, 5-pieces
(same condition I will use for FCP Tourney-2022).
Link will be follow later this day!
Best
Frank
the weakest engine in the group of 41 engines is Vajolet2 2.8 (FCP Tourney-2021).
I am not sure with ...
1. Bit-Genie 9
2. Drofa 3.2.0
3. Counter 3.9
4. Invictus r382
in playing strength.
Maybe this engines are stronger as Vajolet2 2.8 (3012 Elo) or Nirvanachess 2.5 (3027 Elo).
I will add ...
5. Wasp 4.50
6. Vajolet2 2.8
7. Stash 31.0
8. Demolito 2021-07-09
for a test-tourney on Intel i9-10900k, 4.4Ghz with 40 moves in 14 minutes, 768Mb hash, 5-pieces
(same condition I will use for FCP Tourney-2022).
Link will be follow later this day!
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
I add two engines more ...
09. Critter 1.6a
10. chess22k 1.14 Java
Now, a nice group of engines can play a test-tourney!
I am very interesting in Drofa, Bit-Genie, Counter and Invictus results.
Each one against each other, 50 games per match = 2.250 tournament games, 450 games per engines to play.
40 moves in 14 minutes, 768Mb for hash, 5-pieces tablebases if possible, FCP Toruney-2022 rules.
10 games are still running on 10 cores from Intel i9-10900k with 4.4Ghz.
Need some days, I think ~ 14 days (around 50 minutes for one game).
Links, LIVE mode with FCP client software Fling Plus (updates each 30 minutes):
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.sto (Shredder GUI tournament file)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... -2022.html (Shredder GUI tournament table)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.pgn (Shredder GUI PGN file).
Have fun!
Best
Frank
I add two engines more ...
09. Critter 1.6a
10. chess22k 1.14 Java
Now, a nice group of engines can play a test-tourney!
I am very interesting in Drofa, Bit-Genie, Counter and Invictus results.
Each one against each other, 50 games per match = 2.250 tournament games, 450 games per engines to play.
40 moves in 14 minutes, 768Mb for hash, 5-pieces tablebases if possible, FCP Toruney-2022 rules.
10 games are still running on 10 cores from Intel i9-10900k with 4.4Ghz.
Need some days, I think ~ 14 days (around 50 minutes for one game).
Links, LIVE mode with FCP client software Fling Plus (updates each 30 minutes):
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.sto (Shredder GUI tournament file)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... -2022.html (Shredder GUI tournament table)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/test ... y-2022.pgn (Shredder GUI PGN file).
Have fun!
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Wow ... Stash!!
What for a really strong engine (without NN) with a great style of chess.
Can be a little event for the next FCP Tourney-2022.
Bit-Genie seems on the way to the group of TOP-40.
Invictus lost two games on time (in endgames, both games with 5-pieces on board).
But after all ... I think no of the four engines is so far stronger as Vajolet2 2.8.
First impressions after 20 hours runtime!
Best
Frank
What for a really strong engine (without NN) with a great style of chess.
Can be a little event for the next FCP Tourney-2022.
Bit-Genie seems on the way to the group of TOP-40.
Invictus lost two games on time (in endgames, both games with 5-pieces on board).
But after all ... I think no of the four engines is so far stronger as Vajolet2 2.8.
First impressions after 20 hours runtime!
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Short impressions:
- too much short draw games by Wasp, same for FCP Tourney-2021. I believe I should set a small contempt like 8. I know John dislike the contempt but as tester I should try this for avoid to many of such short draws.
- too much short lost games by Drofa
- 3 of 82 games lost on time by Invictus
- 1 of 82 game lost on time by chess22k (I know about it from FCP Tourney-2021, 7 after 2.000 games).
- I am very surprised from Demolito and found interesting short won games ... extraordinary for Demolito!!
Aggressiveness in mid-games and a again a hard fighting for each endgame (I like Demolito all the time, small sources with a lot of power). A very hard opponent for Wasp with weeknesses in endgames.
- Stash have very strong endgame and good king safety. It seems that this program have an good optimization in parameters (balanced style without big weeknesses).
With Counter I am not sure!
Weeknesses seems to be the late mid-game. Endgame strength seems to be good. Engine runs without any problems.
After all ... the four engines:
Counter, Bit-Genie, Drofa & Invictus seems to be over 2900 Elo but are not strong enough for FCP Tourney-2022 (Engine strength should be over 3000 Elo for a place in TOP-40).
Very sure with the new Demolito and Stash (engines should have around 3020 - 3060 Elo).
Best
Frank
A lot of games are to play ...
Let us wait of the final results, first impressions by myself only!
- too much short draw games by Wasp, same for FCP Tourney-2021. I believe I should set a small contempt like 8. I know John dislike the contempt but as tester I should try this for avoid to many of such short draws.
- too much short lost games by Drofa
- 3 of 82 games lost on time by Invictus
- 1 of 82 game lost on time by chess22k (I know about it from FCP Tourney-2021, 7 after 2.000 games).
- I am very surprised from Demolito and found interesting short won games ... extraordinary for Demolito!!
Aggressiveness in mid-games and a again a hard fighting for each endgame (I like Demolito all the time, small sources with a lot of power). A very hard opponent for Wasp with weeknesses in endgames.
- Stash have very strong endgame and good king safety. It seems that this program have an good optimization in parameters (balanced style without big weeknesses).
With Counter I am not sure!
Weeknesses seems to be the late mid-game. Endgame strength seems to be good. Engine runs without any problems.
After all ... the four engines:
Counter, Bit-Genie, Drofa & Invictus seems to be over 2900 Elo but are not strong enough for FCP Tourney-2022 (Engine strength should be over 3000 Elo for a place in TOP-40).
Very sure with the new Demolito and Stash (engines should have around 3020 - 3060 Elo).
Best
Frank
A lot of games are to play ...
Let us wait of the final results, first impressions by myself only!
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
I added Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64 in my test-tourney.
The final results (test-tourney) with small stats will be available in 2-3 days.
Best
Frank
I added Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64 in my test-tourney.
The final results (test-tourney) with small stats will be available in 2-3 days.
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
I am not sure with TOP-38 - TOP-41 places for my next FCP Tourney-2022.
At the moment not many time for chess but I can use the time for test different engines again.
I added Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64 in my test tourney (Engine-12).
The three links to my test-tourney can be found in my thread.
Stats to the test-tourney will be later available.
Invictus lost 21 games on time
chess22k lost 1 game on time
With Fritz 16 I solved the problems with lost on time games (I had before in times I starts a test tourney for FCP Tourney-2021).
With 5-pieces Nalimov Fritz 16 lost often on time. With the settings (Shredder *.eng file):
Best
Frank
I am not sure with TOP-38 - TOP-41 places for my next FCP Tourney-2022.
At the moment not many time for chess but I can use the time for test different engines again.
I added Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64 in my test tourney (Engine-12).
The three links to my test-tourney can be found in my thread.
Stats to the test-tourney will be later available.
Invictus lost 21 games on time
chess22k lost 1 game on time
With Fritz 16 I solved the problems with lost on time games (I had before in times I starts a test tourney for FCP Tourney-2021).
With 5-pieces Nalimov Fritz 16 lost often on time. With the settings (Shredder *.eng file):
Fritz 16 produced 0 lost on time games!![ENGINE]
Name=Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64
Author=Vasik Rajlich
Filename=C:\Chess\Shredder_12\Engines\Rybka\Fritz 16.exe
[OPTIONS]
Use TBAccess=true
Main Process Priority=Normal
Child Process Priority=Normal
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64 is running now on 26 Cores.
I added a new Ryzen9 5950x with 16 Cores in my network.
I will test a little bit the network.
With 26 Cores ~ 560 games per day (40 moves in 14 minutes, around 1 hour per game without resign mode) can be play.
Tomorrow I will add Engine 13 and Engine 14 in my test-tourney.
Engine 13: Cheng 4.41 x64
Engine 14: Equinox 3.30 x64
Links to the test-tourney can be found in this thread.
I third system (Intel i5 11600k) I will add before tournament start (Nov. 08th, 2021) in my network.
So I have 6 cores more for FCP Tourney-2022.
1. Intel i9-10900k = 10 Cores
2. AMD Ryzen9 5950x = 16 Cores
3. Intel i5-11600k = 6 Cores
= 32 Cores power for the next FCP Tourneys!
All cores will be run with 4.4Ghz!
Best
Frank
Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64 is running now on 26 Cores.
I added a new Ryzen9 5950x with 16 Cores in my network.
I will test a little bit the network.
With 26 Cores ~ 560 games per day (40 moves in 14 minutes, around 1 hour per game without resign mode) can be play.
Tomorrow I will add Engine 13 and Engine 14 in my test-tourney.
Engine 13: Cheng 4.41 x64
Engine 14: Equinox 3.30 x64
Links to the test-tourney can be found in this thread.
I third system (Intel i5 11600k) I will add before tournament start (Nov. 08th, 2021) in my network.
So I have 6 cores more for FCP Tourney-2022.
1. Intel i9-10900k = 10 Cores
2. AMD Ryzen9 5950x = 16 Cores
3. Intel i5-11600k = 6 Cores
= 32 Cores power for the next FCP Tourneys!
All cores will be run with 4.4Ghz!
Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2022 ...
Hi there,
Hardware details for AMD-System Ryzen9 5950x:
Temperature: 64 degrees with Kraken Z73 water-cooling system ...
if 16 matches are still running with 4.4Ghz on Asus Rock Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Mainboard.
Standard setting for the Mainboard!
I changed V-Core from 1.200 to 1.250 and 4.4Ghz core ratio only.
Max. possible is 4.8Ghz per core with 1.300 V-Core but the system need to many energy.
Best
Frank
Hardware details for AMD-System Ryzen9 5950x:
Temperature: 64 degrees with Kraken Z73 water-cooling system ...
if 16 matches are still running with 4.4Ghz on Asus Rock Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Mainboard.
Standard setting for the Mainboard!
I changed V-Core from 1.200 to 1.250 and 4.4Ghz core ratio only.
Max. possible is 4.8Ghz per core with 1.300 V-Core but the system need to many energy.
Best
Frank