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Graham Banks
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87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:17 am

87TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 1)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2021.cgb book
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will face automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Participants

Stockfish 14 64-bit
SugaR AI 2.20 64-bit
ShashChess 17.1 64-bit
Igel 3.0.5 64-bit
RubiChess 2.2 64-bit
Slow Chess Blitz 2.6 64-bit
Fire 8.1 64-bit
Nemorino 6.05 64-bit
Booot 6.5 64-bit
Rofchade 2.3 64-bit
Koivisto 6.0 64-bit
Seer 2.2.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every four rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13197

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16093

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:25 pm

87TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 1)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2021.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will face automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 6

4.5 - SlowChess Blitz 2.6 64-bit
4.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
4.0 - SugaR AI 2.20 64-bit
3.5 - Stockfish 14 64-bit
3.5 - RubiChess 2.2 64-bit
3.0 - Koivisto 6.0 64-bit
3.0 - Igel 3.0.5 64-bit
2.5 - Nemorino 6.05 64-bit
2.5 - Booot 6.5 64-bit
2.5 - Fire 8.1 64-bit
2.0 - RofChade 2.3 64-bit
0.5 - Seer 2.2.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13197

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16093

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by Graham Banks » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm

87TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 1)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2021.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will face automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
9.0 - SugaR AI 2.20 64-bit
8.0 - Stockfish 14 64-bit
6.5 - Igel 3.0.5 64-bit
6.5 - SlowChess Blitz 2.6 64-bit
6.0 - Fire 8.1 64-bit
5.5 - Koivisto 6.0 64-bit
5.5 - RubiChess 2.2 64-bit
4.5 - Nemorino 6.05 64-bit
4.0 - RofChade 2.3 64-bit
4.0 - Booot 6.5 64-bit
3.0 - Seer 2.2.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13197

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16093

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/on.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

RubiChess
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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by RubiChess » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am

Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas

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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by connor_mcmonigle » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:28 pm

RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
+1

Luecx
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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by Luecx » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:42 pm

RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
I just stumbled across the source of this wonderful engine. May I ask why the author wrote down the random (most likely?) numbers he uses for his zobrist keys? I mean, he wrote them down like that so I assume they must be better than a normal call to some random function inside a loop? I am very curious on how he did it and proofed this :)

Link for refernce: https://github.com/amchess/ShashChess/b ... n.cpp#L112
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. https://github.com/Luecx/Koivisto

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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by amanjpro » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:08 pm

RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
What is wrong with the engine again? The guy clearly says it is an SF derivative... No license violation whatsoever...

RubiChess
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Full name: Andreas Matthies

Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by RubiChess » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm

amanjpro wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:08 pm
RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
What is wrong with the engine again? The guy clearly says it is an SF derivative... No license violation whatsoever...
What are you talking about? Have I said anything about license?? I'm wondering about the "Pro" in the name.

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Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by amanjpro » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:43 pm

RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm
amanjpro wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:08 pm
RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
What is wrong with the engine again? The guy clearly says it is an SF derivative... No license violation whatsoever...
What are you talking about? Have I said anything about license?? I'm wondering about the "Pro" in the name.
Ah... so you are questioning the decision because the name of the engine says "pro"? And have no issue with the engine selection otherwise?

RubiChess
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Full name: Andreas Matthies

Re: 87th Amateur Series Division 1

Post by RubiChess » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:07 pm

amanjpro wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:43 pm
RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm
amanjpro wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:08 pm
RubiChess wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:02 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - ShashChess Pro 17.1 64-bit
...
Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?
No need to answer, I already know that this engine is everything but professional.

Regards, Andreas
What is wrong with the engine again? The guy clearly says it is an SF derivative... No license violation whatsoever...
What are you talking about? Have I said anything about license?? I'm wondering about the "Pro" in the name.
Ah... so you are questioning the decision because the name of the engine says "pro"? And have no issue with the engine selection otherwise?
Read what I wrote: "Why is a Pro(fessional) engine competing in an amateur series?". Ethereal e.g. doesn't compete anymore because it isn't considered to be amateur although one could easily use the free version. The real question should probably be: Why is Shashchess called "Pro"?
Besides that I find it questionable (and boring) that three of the competing engines are almost identical besides some very few differences. But I don't complain. Every tester has to pay for his electricity and can run every engine he likes.
End of story for me.

Andreas

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