At queen odds, if you keep the same field, I don't think that either Dragon or Stockfish will get more than a few draws in 700 games, maybe not even that. Probably you need engines about a thousand elo lower than these for a reasonably close match at queen odds even at this bullet tc.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 amAt the moment I am doing queen odds, just to be complete.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:43 am So bishops are indeed worth more than knights (at least when bishop pair is broken for the side losing the bishop), no surprise there. But it is interesting that Stockfish lost much more than Komodo from this, SF score was nearly cut in half going from knight odds to bishop odds! Regarding rook odds, it is roughly a class (200 elo) larger handicap than knight odds, so a field in the 2500 to 2530 range for opponents might be more balanced, but anyway it will be interesting.
The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
At an average of 1 second per move Stockfish 14 will perform much better than Stockfish 14 at 5 seconds per move, the longer TC you give to the lower rated opponent the better they will perform against Stockfish 14. Therefore, testing at an average of 1 second per move does NOT give us a good measurement of Stockfish14 vs Komodo Dragon2 playing OddsRebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 amAt the moment I am doing queen odds, just to be complete.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:43 am So bishops are indeed worth more than knights (at least when bishop pair is broken for the side losing the bishop), no surprise there. But it is interesting that Stockfish lost much more than Komodo from this, SF score was nearly cut in half going from knight odds to bishop odds! Regarding rook odds, it is roughly a class (200 elo) larger handicap than knight odds, so a field in the 2500 to 2530 range for opponents might be more balanced, but anyway it will be interesting.
The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
True, but we need those anyway when we move to the lower regions (in steps of 200 elo less) for a good comparison.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:31 amAt queen odds, if you keep the same field, I don't think that either Dragon or Stockfish will get more than a few draws in 700 games, maybe not even that. Probably you need engines about a thousand elo lower than these for a reasonably close match at queen odds even at this bullet tc.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 amAt the moment I am doing queen odds, just to be complete.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:43 am So bishops are indeed worth more than knights (at least when bishop pair is broken for the side losing the bishop), no surprise there. But it is interesting that Stockfish lost much more than Komodo from this, SF score was nearly cut in half going from knight odds to bishop odds! Regarding rook odds, it is roughly a class (200 elo) larger handicap than knight odds, so a field in the 2500 to 2530 range for opponents might be more balanced, but anyway it will be interesting.
The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
QUEEN odds matches
Komodo-Dragon-2
Stockfish 14
Party time!
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Next, rook odds. I wrote a small util that fixes the castling rights.
Komodo-Dragon-2
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QUEEN odds match Komodo-Dragon-2 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games : 700
Results from file all.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Benjamin 1.0 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
2 Dumb 1.8 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
3 ProDeo 2.2 +99 =1 -0 *0 99.5 100 99.5%
4 k2 099 +99 =1 -0 *0 99.5 100 99.5%
5 Velvet 1.2.0 +98 =1 -1 *0 98.5 100 98.5%
6 Fruit 2.1 +98 =0 -2 *0 98.0 100 98.0%
7 Zahak 5.0 +96 =3 -1 *0 97.5 100 97.5%
8 Komodo-Dragon 2 +4 =6 -690 *0 7.0 700 1.0%
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QUEEN odds match Stockfish 14 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games : 700
Results from file all.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Benjamin 1.0 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
2 Dumb 1.8 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
3 Fruit 2.1 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
4 ProDeo 2.2 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
5 Velvet 1.2.0 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
6 Zahak 5.0 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
7 k2 099 +100 =0 -0 *0 100.0 100 100.0%
8 Stockfish 14 +0 =0 -700 *0 0.0 700 0.0%
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Next, rook odds. I wrote a small util that fixes the castling rights.
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
Just in case you still need more or somebody needs it, uploaded rook odds epd around 280K pos from regular start epd file, randomly remove white queen rook or white king rook then rebuild the epd.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 am The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
Tested on cutechess-cli with different SF version.
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Score of first vs second: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505
... first playing White: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505
... White vs Black: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505
Elo difference: -inf +/- nan, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 0.0 %
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
Thanks Ferdy!Ferdy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:23 amJust in case you still need more or somebody needs it, uploaded rook odds epd around 280K pos from regular start epd file, randomly remove white queen rook or white king rook then rebuild the epd.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 am The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
Tested on cutechess-cli with different SF version.Code: Select all
Score of first vs second: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505 ... first playing White: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505 ... White vs Black: 0 - 505 - 0 [0.000] 505 Elo difference: -inf +/- nan, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 0.0 %
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
ROOK ODDS
Stockfish 14
Komodo-Dragon 2
Stockfish : 18.8%
Komodo : 25..5%
Once again Komodo had the better survival instinct.
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Stockfish 14
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ROOK odds match Stockfish 14 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games : 700
Results from file all.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Stockfish 14 +109 =45 -546 *0 131.5 700 18.8%
2 k2 099 +84 =5 -11 *0 86.5 100 86.5%
3 Benjamin 1.0 +82 =5 -13 *0 84.5 100 84.5%
4 ProDeo 2.2 +84 =1 -15 *0 84.5 100 84.5%
5 Dumb 1.8 +80 =8 -12 *0 84.0 100 84.0%
6 Zahak 5.0 +76 =7 -17 *0 79.5 100 79.5%
7 Velvet 1.2.0 +73 =11 -16 *0 78.5 100 78.5%
8 Fruit 2.1 +67 =8 -25 *0 71.0 100 71.0%
Total Games: 700
White Wins: 109 (15.6%)
Black Wins: 546 (78.0%)
Draws: 45 (6.4%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)
Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool
# PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%)
1 k2 099 : 2811.5 86.5 100 87
2 Benjamin 1.0 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85
3 ProDeo 2.2 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85
4 Dumb 1.8 : 2776.6 84.0 100 84
5 Zahak 5.0 : 2723.5 79.5 100 80
6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2713.0 78.5 100 79
7 Fruit 2.1 : 2642.9 71.0 100 71
8 Stockfish 14 : 2486.0 131.5 700 19
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ROOK odds match Komodo Dragon 2 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games : 700
Results from file all.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Komodo-Dragon 2 +154 =49 -497 *0 178.5 700 25.5%
2 Benjamin 1.0 +78 =9 -13 *0 82.5 100 82.5%
3 Dumb 1.8 +76 =10 -14 *0 81.0 100 81.0%
4 ProDeo 2.2 +74 =8 -18 *0 78.0 100 78.0%
5 k2 099 +76 =4 -20 *0 78.0 100 78.0%
6 Zahak 5.0 +73 =6 -21 *0 76.0 100 76.0%
7 Velvet 1.2.0 +66 =4 -30 *0 68.0 100 68.0%
8 Fruit 2.1 +54 =8 -38 *0 58.0 100 58.0%
Total Games: 700
White Wins: 154 (22.0%)
Black Wins: 497 (71.0%)
Draws: 49 (7.0%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)
Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool
# PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%)
1 Benjamin 1.0 : 2816.7 82.5 100 83
2 Dumb 1.8 : 2799.1 81.0 100 81
3 k2 099 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78
4 ProDeo 2.2 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78
5 Zahak 5.0 : 2747.0 76.0 100 76
6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2677.1 68.0 100 68
7 Fruit 2.1 : 2601.6 58.0 100 58
8 Komodo-Dragon 2 : 2545.0 178.5 700 26
Komodo : 25..5%
Once again Komodo had the better survival instinct.
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
Really strange that Stockfish scored higher giving rook odds than giving bishop odds, though still much worse than Komodo (which as one would expect scored much higher giving bishop odds than rook odds). I wonder why this should be? I think it is related to how the programs evaluate the initial positions; Stockfish doesn't think rook odds is so bad relatively speaking; but I don't see why misevaluating the position should make the results agree with the misevaluation.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:48 pm ROOK ODDS
Stockfish 14
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ROOK odds match Stockfish 14 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines Time Control : Time control : 40/40 Games : 700 Results from file all.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Stockfish 14 +109 =45 -546 *0 131.5 700 18.8% 2 k2 099 +84 =5 -11 *0 86.5 100 86.5% 3 Benjamin 1.0 +82 =5 -13 *0 84.5 100 84.5% 4 ProDeo 2.2 +84 =1 -15 *0 84.5 100 84.5% 5 Dumb 1.8 +80 =8 -12 *0 84.0 100 84.0% 6 Zahak 5.0 +76 =7 -17 *0 79.5 100 79.5% 7 Velvet 1.2.0 +73 =11 -16 *0 78.5 100 78.5% 8 Fruit 2.1 +67 =8 -25 *0 71.0 100 71.0% Total Games: 700 White Wins: 109 (15.6%) Black Wins: 546 (78.0%) Draws: 45 (6.4%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 k2 099 : 2811.5 86.5 100 87 2 Benjamin 1.0 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85 3 ProDeo 2.2 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85 4 Dumb 1.8 : 2776.6 84.0 100 84 5 Zahak 5.0 : 2723.5 79.5 100 80 6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2713.0 78.5 100 79 7 Fruit 2.1 : 2642.9 71.0 100 71 8 Stockfish 14 : 2486.0 131.5 700 19
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ROOK odds match Komodo Dragon 2 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines Time Control : Time control : 40/40 Games : 700 Results from file all.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Komodo-Dragon 2 +154 =49 -497 *0 178.5 700 25.5% 2 Benjamin 1.0 +78 =9 -13 *0 82.5 100 82.5% 3 Dumb 1.8 +76 =10 -14 *0 81.0 100 81.0% 4 ProDeo 2.2 +74 =8 -18 *0 78.0 100 78.0% 5 k2 099 +76 =4 -20 *0 78.0 100 78.0% 6 Zahak 5.0 +73 =6 -21 *0 76.0 100 76.0% 7 Velvet 1.2.0 +66 =4 -30 *0 68.0 100 68.0% 8 Fruit 2.1 +54 =8 -38 *0 58.0 100 58.0% Total Games: 700 White Wins: 154 (22.0%) Black Wins: 497 (71.0%) Draws: 49 (7.0%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Benjamin 1.0 : 2816.7 82.5 100 83 2 Dumb 1.8 : 2799.1 81.0 100 81 3 k2 099 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78 4 ProDeo 2.2 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78 5 Zahak 5.0 : 2747.0 76.0 100 76 6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2677.1 68.0 100 68 7 Fruit 2.1 : 2601.6 58.0 100 58 8 Komodo-Dragon 2 : 2545.0 178.5 700 26
Komodo : 25..5%
Once again Komodo had the better survival instinct.
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
I remember Richard Lang programs had a special option, when in a lost position move into survival mode, wildly attack the king, put everything on a passed pawn. Maybe SF has something similar.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:20 pmReally strange that Stockfish scored higher giving rook odds than giving bishop odds, though still much worse than Komodo (which as one would expect scored much higher giving bishop odds than rook odds). I wonder why this should be? I think it is related to how the programs evaluate the initial positions; Stockfish doesn't think rook odds is so bad relatively speaking; but I don't see why misevaluating the position should make the results agree with the misevaluation.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:48 pm ROOK ODDS
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ROOK odds match Stockfish 14 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines Time Control : Time control : 40/40 Games : 700 Results from file all.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Stockfish 14 +109 =45 -546 *0 131.5 700 18.8% 2 k2 099 +84 =5 -11 *0 86.5 100 86.5% 3 Benjamin 1.0 +82 =5 -13 *0 84.5 100 84.5% 4 ProDeo 2.2 +84 =1 -15 *0 84.5 100 84.5% 5 Dumb 1.8 +80 =8 -12 *0 84.0 100 84.0% 6 Zahak 5.0 +76 =7 -17 *0 79.5 100 79.5% 7 Velvet 1.2.0 +73 =11 -16 *0 78.5 100 78.5% 8 Fruit 2.1 +67 =8 -25 *0 71.0 100 71.0% Total Games: 700 White Wins: 109 (15.6%) Black Wins: 546 (78.0%) Draws: 45 (6.4%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 k2 099 : 2811.5 86.5 100 87 2 Benjamin 1.0 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85 3 ProDeo 2.2 : 2783.2 84.5 100 85 4 Dumb 1.8 : 2776.6 84.0 100 84 5 Zahak 5.0 : 2723.5 79.5 100 80 6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2713.0 78.5 100 79 7 Fruit 2.1 : 2642.9 71.0 100 71 8 Stockfish 14 : 2486.0 131.5 700 19
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ROOK odds match Komodo Dragon 2 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines Time Control : Time control : 40/40 Games : 700 Results from file all.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Komodo-Dragon 2 +154 =49 -497 *0 178.5 700 25.5% 2 Benjamin 1.0 +78 =9 -13 *0 82.5 100 82.5% 3 Dumb 1.8 +76 =10 -14 *0 81.0 100 81.0% 4 ProDeo 2.2 +74 =8 -18 *0 78.0 100 78.0% 5 k2 099 +76 =4 -20 *0 78.0 100 78.0% 6 Zahak 5.0 +73 =6 -21 *0 76.0 100 76.0% 7 Velvet 1.2.0 +66 =4 -30 *0 68.0 100 68.0% 8 Fruit 2.1 +54 =8 -38 *0 58.0 100 58.0% Total Games: 700 White Wins: 154 (22.0%) Black Wins: 497 (71.0%) Draws: 49 (7.0%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Benjamin 1.0 : 2816.7 82.5 100 83 2 Dumb 1.8 : 2799.1 81.0 100 81 3 k2 099 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78 4 ProDeo 2.2 : 2766.8 78.0 100 78 5 Zahak 5.0 : 2747.0 76.0 100 76 6 Velvet 1.2.0 : 2677.1 68.0 100 68 7 Fruit 2.1 : 2601.6 58.0 100 58 8 Komodo-Dragon 2 : 2545.0 178.5 700 26
Komodo : 25..5%
Once again Komodo had the better survival instinct.
All games at - http://rebel13.nl/odds-2700.zip
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Re: Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss
In order to get an even score with Dragon2, I tested more than 1000 games at an average of 1 seconds per move with these field with Queen Oddslkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:31 amAt queen odds, if you keep the same field, I don't think that either Dragon or Stockfish will get more than a few draws in 700 games, maybe not even that. Probably you need engines about a thousand elo lower than these for a reasonably close match at queen odds even at this bullet tc.Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 amAt the moment I am doing queen odds, just to be complete.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:43 am So bishops are indeed worth more than knights (at least when bishop pair is broken for the side losing the bishop), no surprise there. But it is interesting that Stockfish lost much more than Komodo from this, SF score was nearly cut in half going from knight odds to bishop odds! Regarding rook odds, it is roughly a class (200 elo) larger handicap than knight odds, so a field in the 2500 to 2530 range for opponents might be more balanced, but anyway it will be interesting.
The rook epd is not good, see:
Castling flags are wrong and positions are ignored by cute.Code: Select all
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/3p4/3nP3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4; v=-526 r1bqkb1r/pppnpppp/3p1n2/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/2BQKBNR w KQkq - 2 4; v=-529 rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/5N2/PPP2PPP/1NBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4; v=-536 r1bqkb1r/ppp1pppp/2n2n2/3p4/2PP4/4P3/PP3PPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 1 4; v=-538
Does somebody has a good rook odds epd of (at least) 100 positions?
462 Casper rev4 64-bit 1579 +24 −24 50.2% −2.6 23.9% 624
60.5%
463 PolarChess 1.3 1574 +25 −25 49.3% +3.5 16.9% 629
56.3%
464‑465 Darky 0.5d 1571 +24 −24 43.5% +56.2 20.8% 677
49.7%
464‑465 Storm 0.6 1571 +21 −21 38.3% +95.3 15.0% 925
74.3%
466 Damas 9 1560 +25 −25 47.8% +17.1 17.6% 626
76.1%
467 IQ23.003 1547 +21 −21 33.6% +118.6 32.6% 854
72.6%
468 Cicada 0.1 64-bit 1536 +24 −25 44.1% +48.6 19.7% 636
65.6%
In order to get an even score with Dragon2, I tested more than 1000 games at an average of 1 seconds per move with these field with Rook Odds
357 Kurt 0.9.2.2 64-bit 2166 +21 −21 47.7% +18.0 24.2% 828
56.9%
358 ProChess 1.02AD 2164 +19 −19 48.4% +6.3 22.1% 1043
51.8%
359 Chesley r323 64-bit 2163 +22 −22 48.1% +14.4 20.8% 804
51.3%
360 Micah 1.0 64-bit 2162 +25 −25 44.0% +45.9 25.4% 566
73.2%
361 KnockOut 0.7.1 2153 +15 −15 51.1% −8.0 26.6% 1574
81.4%
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