Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 at knight odss

[Rebel]

Started a small experiment, knight odds Komodo Dragon and Stockfish 14 versus a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines.

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No. Name             Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %   SOP
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  1 Komodo-Dragon_2  +31  =13  -26   *0   37.5    70   53.6% 229.5
  2 Dumb_1.8          +4   =4   -2   *0    6.0    10   60.0% 375.0
  3 Benjamin_1.0      +5   =1   -4   *0    5.5    10   55.0% 375.0
  4 k2_099            +3   =5   -2   *0    5.5    10   55.0% 375.0
  5 Velvet_1.2.0      +4   =2   -4   *0    5.0    10   50.0% 375.0
  6 Zahak_5.0         +5   =0   -5   *0    5.0    10   50.0% 375.0
  7 ProDeo_2.2        +3   =1   -6   *0    3.5    10   35.0% 375.0
  8 Fruit_2.1         +2   =0   -8   *0    2.0    10   20.0% 375.0

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No. Name          Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %   SOP
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  1 Stockfish_14  +21   =7  -42   *0   24.5    70   35.0% 323.5
  2 Zahak_5.0      +7   =2   -1   *0    8.0    10   80.0% 245.0
  3 Dumb_1.8       +6   =2   -2   *0    7.0    10   70.0% 245.0
  4 Velvet_1.2.0   +6   =2   -2   *0    7.0    10   70.0% 245.0
  5 ProDeo_2.2     +6   =1   -3   *0    6.5    10   65.0% 245.0
  6 Benjamin_1.0   +6   =0   -4   *0    6.0    10   60.0% 245.0
  7 k2_099         +6   =0   -4   *0    6.0    10   60.0% 245.0
  8 Fruit_2.1      +5   =0   -5   *0    5.0    10   50.0% 245.0

Komodo-Dragon-2 : 53.6%
Stockfish 14 : 35%

Larry will be pleaased

[Rebel]

Extended the experiment from 10 to 100 rounds, so 700 games.

Komodo first.

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

Other info
1. Using the knight odds positions created with pgn_to_epd_v2 from Chris.
2. Time control 40/40, so one second per move.

Ideas
1. Do the same for bishop / rook and queen odds.
2. Do rook and queen odds with lower rated engines.
3. Do queen odds with even more lower rated engines.
4. Make a web page of the results.

[AdminX]

Extended the experiment from 10 to 100 rounds, so 700 games.

Komodo first.

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

Other info
1. Using the knight odds positions created with pgn_to_epd_v2 from Chris.
2. Time control 40/40, so one second per move.

Ideas
1. Do the same for bishop / rook and queen odds.
2. Do rook and queen odds with lower rated engines.
3. Do queen odds with even more lower rated engines.
4. Make a web page of the results.

Thanks Ed,

That is a nice tool that Chris put together.

[Chessqueen]

Extended the experiment from 10 to 100 rounds, so 700 games.

Komodo first.

http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm

Other info
1. Using the knight odds positions created with pgn_to_epd_v2 from Chris.
2. Time control 40/40, so one second per move.

Ideas
1. Do the same for bishop / rook and queen odds.
2. Do rook and queen odds with lower rated engines.
3. Do queen odds with even more lower rated engines.
4. Make a web page of the results.

Thanks Ed,

That is a nice tool that Chris put together.

Here is Stockfish vs Snowy rated 1998 at Rook Odds

[pgn][Event "Rook Odds"]
[Date "2021.09.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_14_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Snowy_0_2_x64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "1998"]
[Time "13:23:00"]
[WhiteElo "3590"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 e6 2. e3 Nc6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bb5 a6 5. Be2 d5 6. b3 Bd6 7. Bb2 O-O 8.
O-O b5 9. Nbd2 Rb8 10. Ne5 Qe8 11. a3 a5 12. Qc1 Bd7 13. Bd3 a4 14. b4 Ne7
15. Qd1 Ng6 16. f3 Bc6 17. Qe1 Be7 18. Qg3 Rc8 19. Rb1 Nxe5 20. dxe5 Nd7
21. f4 f5 22. Nf3 Nb6 23. Nd4 Bd7 24. Bc3 Rf7 25. h3 Nc4 26. Bxc4 dxc4 27.
Ne2 c5 28. bxc5 Bxc5 29. Bb4 c3 30. Kh2 Qf8 31. Qe1 Bxb4 32. Rxb4 Qc5 33.
Nd4 Qd5 34. Qf1 Rc5 35. Rb1 g5 36. Rd1 Qa2 37. Qf3 gxf4 38. exf4 Qxa3 39.
Nxe6 Bxe6 40. Qg3+ Rg7 41. Rd8+ Kf7 42. Qh4 Rxe5 43. fxe5 Qe7 44. Qh5+ Rg6
45. Qxh7+ Rg7 46. Qh5 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Here is Dragon2 Vs a 1579 rated engine next Stockfish14 vs Casper at Queen Odds

[pgn][Event "Queen Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Casper"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "1579"]
[Time "07:56:53"]
[WhiteElo "3585"]
[TimeControl "60+3"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "105"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d3 e5 2. e3 Nc6 3. a3 d5 4. g3 Be6 5. Ne2 Bd6 6. Bg2 f5 7. Nbc3 Nf6 8.
O-O Qd7 9. Nb5 O-O-O 10. d4 Ne7 11. a4 a6 12. Nxd6+ cxd6 13. b3 Qc7 14. Ba3
Rhe8 15. Rfb1 Rd7 16. c3 Nc6 17. b4 Ne7 18. b5 Qc4 19. Bf1 Qc7 20. bxa6
bxa6 21. dxe5 dxe5 22. a5 Nc6 23. Nc1 Nb8 24. Nd3 Ne4 25. Rb6 Rdd8 26. Nb4
Nc5 27. Rb1 e4 28. Nc2 Nbd7 29. Rxa6 Ne5 30. Nd4 Nf3+ 31. Nxf3 exf3 32.
Rbb6 Nd7 33. Ra8+ Nb8 34. Bc5 g5 35. Ba6+ Kd7 36. Bb5+ Nc6 37. Rxc6 Qxg3+
38. hxg3 Rxa8 39. Ra6+ Kc7 40. Bd6+ Kb7 41. Rb6+ Ka7 42. Bc5 Bf7 43. Rf6+
Kb8 44. Bd6+ Kc8 45. Rxf7 Rh8 46. a6 Rg8 47. Rc7+ Kd8 48. Rb7 Kc8 49. Bd7+
Kd8 50. Bc6 Re8 51. a7 Rxe3 52. Rb8+ Rxb8 53. axb8=Q# 1-0[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Here is Stockfish14 Vs a 1579 rated engine Casper at Queen Odds

[pgn][Event "Queen Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_14_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Casper"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "1579"]
[Time "09:30:51"]
[WhiteElo "3590"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. e3 Bf5 3. Bd3 Bxd3 4. cxd3 Nc6 5. O-O Nb4 6. Ne1 e5 7. b3 Nf6
8. d4 exd4 9. exd4 c5 10. dxc5 Bxc5 11. Ba3 Bd4 12. Nc3 Nc6 13. Nf3 Qa5 14.
Rae1+ Kd7 15. Nxd4 Nxd4 16. Be7 Ne4 17. b4 Qa3 18. Nxe4 Kxe7 19. Nc3+ Kf8
20. Re5 Rd8 21. Rb1 Nc6 22. Ree1 Nxb4 23. Rb3 Qa5 24. Reb1 Nc6 25. Rxb7 d4
26. Ne4 Qxa2 27. h3 f5 28. Ng5 Rd7 29. R7b2 Qa3 30. Rb8+ Nd8 31. Re1 Qa5
32. Nf3 d3 33. Re5 Rd5 34. Rxd5 Qxd5 35. Rb4 Nc6 36. Rb1 Kf7 37. h4 Qd7 38.
Rd1 Rb8 39. Ng5+ Kg6 40. Nf3 Rb2 41. Kh2 Qd6+ 42. Kg1 Nd4 43. Ng5 h6 44.
Nh3 Ne2+ 45. Kh1 Qe7 46. h5+ Kxh5 47. Kh2 Qh4 48. g3 {White resigns} *[/pgn]

[Rebel]

What have these games to do with my thread ??

[Chessqueen]

What have these games to do with my thread ??

This is part of what your ideas is all about, since you are wasting your time before the Stockfish team decide to implement Contempt like Komodo Dragon, otherwise, Stockfish will always perform lesser than Komodo Dragon2 at any Odds Except 1 or 2 pawns Odds

Ideas

1. Do the same for bishop / rook and queen odds.
2. Do rook and queen odds with lower rated engines.
3. Do queen odds with even more lower rated engines.
4. Make a web page of the results.

[Rebel]

The thread is called : Komodo-Dragon-2 vs Stockfish 14 and how is better in odds games.

[Rebel]

Knight odds matches

Komodo-Dragon-2

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Knight odds match Komodo-Dragon-2 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games        : 700

Results from file all.pgn:
 
No. Name             Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Komodo-Dragon 2 +344  =90 -266   *0  389.0   700   55.6%
  2 k2 099           +44  =14  -42   *0   51.0   100   51.0%
  3 Benjamin 1.0     +44  =11  -45   *0   49.5   100   49.5%
  4 ProDeo 2.2       +40  =15  -45   *0   47.5   100   47.5%
  5 Velvet 1.2.0     +40  =13  -47   *0   46.5   100   46.5%
  6 Dumb 1.8         +38  =14  -48   *0   45.0   100   45.0%
  7 Zahak 5.0        +36  =13  -51   *0   42.5   100   42.5%
  8 Fruit 2.1        +24  =10  -66   *0   29.0   100   29.0%

Total Games:     700
White Wins:      344 (49.1%)
Black Wins:      266 (38.0%)
Draws:            90 (12.9%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool

   # PLAYER             :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 k2 099             :  2757.5    51.0     100    51
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2    :  2750.5   389.0     700    56
   3 Benjamin 1.0       :  2747.0    49.5     100    50
   4 ProDeo 2.2         :  2732.9    47.5     100    48
   5 Velvet 1.2.0       :  2725.9    46.5     100    47
   6 Dumb 1.8           :  2715.3    45.0     100    45
   7 Zahak 5.0          :  2697.5    42.5     100    43
   8 Fruit 2.1          :  2593.5    29.0     100    29

Stockfish 14

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Knight odds match Stockfish 14 vs a pool of 2700-2730 elo rated engines
Time Control : Time control : 40/40
Games        : 700

Results from file all.pgn:

No. Name          Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Stockfish 14 +175  =50 -475   *0  200.0   700   28.6%
  2 ProDeo 2.2    +73  =11  -16   *0   78.5   100   78.5%
  3 Benjamin 1.0  +71  =10  -19   *0   76.0   100   76.0%
  4 Dumb 1.8      +73   =5  -22   *0   75.5   100   75.5%
  5 k2 099        +72   =6  -22   *0   75.0   100   75.0%
  6 Velvet 1.2.0  +67   =8  -25   *0   71.0   100   71.0%
  7 Fruit 2.1     +61   =7  -32   *0   64.5   100   64.5%
  8 Zahak 5.0     +58   =3  -39   *0   59.5   100   59.5%

Total Games:     700
White Wins:      175 (25.0%)
Black Wins:      475 (67.9%)
Draws:            50 (7.1%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 2715 pool

   # PLAYER          :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 ProDeo 2.2      :  2798.5    78.5     100    79
   2 Benjamin 1.0    :  2773.5    76.0     100    76
   3 Dumb 1.8        :  2768.8    75.5     100    76
   4 k2 099          :  2764.1    75.0     100    75
   5 Velvet 1.2.0    :  2728.5    71.0     100    71
   6 Fruit 2.1       :  2676.2    64.5     100    65
   7 Zahak 5.0       :  2639.0    59.5     100    60
   8 Stockfish 14    :  2571.5   200.0     700    29

Komodo : 55.6%
Stockfish : 28.6%

Next, bishop-odds, same URL - http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm