Dragon Vs Jose Santana rated 2420 at Knight Odds via Skype

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?


The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = to the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 15'+10"

Yes, that's right, you should be able to set Depth = 22 as well as the 15' + 10" time control with both working properly. If you do set depth to 22 you can also restore Threads to four to speed up the engine's play; it will also maybe add half a ply or so to the quality, which probably won't help or hurt measurably. It will just reduce the opponent's ponder time. Check it out in a game with yourself first just to make sure this works properly in your GUI.

What about the Contempt, what should I set it equal to using Standard Dragon2, Not MCTS, and 4 cores on my intel i7 3.40GHz ?

Definitely don't use MCTS with limited depth, the depth value isn't meaningful with MCTS and in any case there is no reason to use limited depth or threads with MCTS. So no MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores and 4 threads on your i7, and Contempt of maybe 125 (I find 100 works best against engines at knight odds, but a somewhat higher value like 125 seems better vs. humans) might be about ideal for giving knight odds to a human IM or GM in Rapid. With Ponder on, the depth limit should cause a lot of instant computer moves (pretty much whenever it predicts the opponent's move), so this should make things difficult for the human opponent who won't have much chance to think without his own clock running. I suspect that with these settings you will be favored vs. 2420 human IM at 30' + 10", though obviously all three results are plausible in a single game. Another advantage of using four threads when using a fixed depth limit is that you should get variety if you play multiple games if he tries to repeat a previous game. Of course alternating knight handicaps also helps thwart this tactic.

I played the 1st opening identical up to move 10 Vs Dragon with 1 cores no MCTS Contempt = 100 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 25. In both I used the same intel i7 3.40 GHz .

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:37:41"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. d4 {(d2-d4 d7-d5 c2-c3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-g5 Ng8-f6 Nb1-d2 e7-e5 e2-e3 Bf8-e7
Bf1-b5 e5xd4 c3xd4 O-O O-O Nf6-e8 Bg5-f4 Be7-d6 Nd2-f3 Bd6xf4 Bb5xc6
Bf4-h6) -3.30/21 18} Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 g2-g3 Bf8-b4+ Nb1-d2 Nb8-c6
e2-e3 h7-h5 Bf1-g2 Bb4xd2+ Bc1xd2 h5-h4 O-O d7-d5 Ra1-c1 Nc6-e7 Qd1-c2
Qd8-d7 c4xd5 e6xd5 Qc2xc7 Qd7xc7 Rc1xc7 h4xg3) -3.24/23 14} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7
4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 Bf1-e2 e7-e5 d4-d5 h7-h5 f2-f3 Bg7-h6 Bc1xh6 Rh8xh6
Qd1-d2 Rh6-h8 O-O-O Nb8-a6 Be2-d3 Nf6-d7 Bd3-e2 Qd8-f6 g2-g3 h5-h4 b2-b3
Nd7-c5 Kc1-b2 h4xg3 h2xg3 Rh8xh1 Rd1xh1) -2.88/22 10} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O
Bc1-e3 c7-c5) +2.79/20 1} 6. Be3 e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3) -2.73/23 7}
a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Bf1-e2) -2.59/23 8} Na6 9. Be2 {(Bf1-e2 Na6-c5
f2-f3) -2.58/25 19} Nc5 10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4) -2.88/25 27} *

[Chessqueen]

I played the 2nd opening identical up to move 10 Vs Dragon with 4 cores no MCTS Contempt = 125 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 26, not too much difference really. In both I used the same intel i7 3.40 GHz . I gave Dragon2 an estimated rating of 2600 playing with Knight Odds, it could be less based on Jose Munoz Santana game, but of course it was TC 30'+10" NOT 10'+5"

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:26:48"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 e2-e3 O-O Bf1-d3 d7-d5 O-O
b7-b6 Qd1-c2 d5xc4 Bd3xc4 Bc8-a6 Bc4-e2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Ba6xe2 Qc2xe2 Qd8-d5
f2-f3 c7-c5 e3-e4 Qd5-b7 Qe2-f2 Nb8-c6 d4xc5 Nf6-d7 c5xb6 Qb7xb6) -3.07/23
31} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 f2-f3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bc1-g5 e6xd5
c4xd5 a7-a6 a2-a4 h7-h6 Bg5-e3 Nb8-d7 Bf1-e2 Nd7-e5 Qd1-d2 g6-g5 a4-a5
Ne5-g6 g2-g3 Ra8-b8 O-O O-O Nc3-a4 Nf6-d7 f3-f4 Nd7-f6 Na4-c3 Nf6-g4 Be2xg4
Bc8xg4 f4xg5 h6xg5) -2.55/23 15} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O Bf1-e2 Nf6-e8 Bc1-e3
e7-e5 d4-d5 f7-f5 e4xf5 g6xf5 g2-g4 Qd8-h4 Qd1-c2 f5-f4 Be3-d2 Nb8-d7 O-O-O
f4-f3 Be2-d3 Nd7-c5 Bd2-e3 Nc5xd3+ Qc2xd3 b7-b6 Nc3-e4 Ne8-f6 Ne4-g3 a7-a5
Qd3-c2) +2.58/22 13} 6. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 e6xd5 c4xd5
b7-b6 O-O Bc8-a6 Be3-f4 Nf6-e8 Bf4-h2 Ba6xd3 Qd1xd3 Nb8-d7 Ra1-e1 g6-g5
Qd3-c2 Bg7-e5 f2-f4 g5xf4 Bh2xf4 Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Nd7-e5 Rf4-f2 Qd8-g5 Rf2-f5
Qg5-h6 Re1-f1) -2.82/26 28} e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3 c7-c6 Bf1-e2
c6xd5 c4xd5 Nb8-a6 Ra1-c1 Bc8-d7 h3-h4 Na6-c5 b2-b4 Nc5-a6 a2-a3 Na6-c7
Be2xh5 g6xh5 Qd1xh5 f7-f5 Qh5-d1 Ra8-c8 h4-h5 h7-h6 e4xf5 Bd7xf5 Be3xa7
Bf5-d7) -2.44/25 19} a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Qd1-d2 Nb8-a6 f2-f3 c6xd5 c4xd5
Bc8-d7 O-O-O a5-a4 a2-a3 Na6-c5 Kc1-b1 Nc5-b3 Qd2-g2 Nb3-d4 f3-f4 b7-b5
Nc3-a2 Kg8-h8 Bf1-d3 Nf6-g8 f4xe5 Bg7xe5 Na2-b4 Ra8-b8 g4-g5 Qd8-e7 h3-h4
f7-f5 e4xf5) -2.48/22 8} Na6 9. Be2 Nc5 {(Na6-c5 f2-f3 c7-c6) +2.65/22 0}
10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4 c6xd5 c4xd5 h7-h5 g4-g5 Nf6-e8 O-O Bc8-d7 Kg1-h2
a5-a4 Ra1-c1 Qd8-b6 Qd1-d2 Ne8-c7 Rc1-c2 Nc7-a6 Rc2-c1 Qb6-a5 Rf1-d1 Rf8-b8
Rd1-f1 Rb8-c8 Rf1-d1 Rc8-f8 Rc1-c2 Rf8-b8 Rc2-c1 b7-b5) -2.80/25 29} *

[lkaufman]

I played the 2nd opening identical up to move 10 Vs Dragon with 4 cores no MCTS Contempt = 125 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 26, not too much difference really. In both I used the same intel i7 3.40 GHz . I gave Dragon2 an estimated rating of 2600 playing with Knight Odds, it could be less based on Jose Munoz Santana game, but of course it was TC 30'+10" NOT 10'+5"

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:26:48"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 e2-e3 O-O Bf1-d3 d7-d5 O-O
b7-b6 Qd1-c2 d5xc4 Bd3xc4 Bc8-a6 Bc4-e2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Ba6xe2 Qc2xe2 Qd8-d5
f2-f3 c7-c5 e3-e4 Qd5-b7 Qe2-f2 Nb8-c6 d4xc5 Nf6-d7 c5xb6 Qb7xb6) -3.07/23
31} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 f2-f3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bc1-g5 e6xd5
c4xd5 a7-a6 a2-a4 h7-h6 Bg5-e3 Nb8-d7 Bf1-e2 Nd7-e5 Qd1-d2 g6-g5 a4-a5
Ne5-g6 g2-g3 Ra8-b8 O-O O-O Nc3-a4 Nf6-d7 f3-f4 Nd7-f6 Na4-c3 Nf6-g4 Be2xg4
Bc8xg4 f4xg5 h6xg5) -2.55/23 15} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O Bf1-e2 Nf6-e8 Bc1-e3
e7-e5 d4-d5 f7-f5 e4xf5 g6xf5 g2-g4 Qd8-h4 Qd1-c2 f5-f4 Be3-d2 Nb8-d7 O-O-O
f4-f3 Be2-d3 Nd7-c5 Bd2-e3 Nc5xd3+ Qc2xd3 b7-b6 Nc3-e4 Ne8-f6 Ne4-g3 a7-a5
Qd3-c2) +2.58/22 13} 6. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 e6xd5 c4xd5
b7-b6 O-O Bc8-a6 Be3-f4 Nf6-e8 Bf4-h2 Ba6xd3 Qd1xd3 Nb8-d7 Ra1-e1 g6-g5
Qd3-c2 Bg7-e5 f2-f4 g5xf4 Bh2xf4 Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Nd7-e5 Rf4-f2 Qd8-g5 Rf2-f5
Qg5-h6 Re1-f1) -2.82/26 28} e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3 c7-c6 Bf1-e2
c6xd5 c4xd5 Nb8-a6 Ra1-c1 Bc8-d7 h3-h4 Na6-c5 b2-b4 Nc5-a6 a2-a3 Na6-c7
Be2xh5 g6xh5 Qd1xh5 f7-f5 Qh5-d1 Ra8-c8 h4-h5 h7-h6 e4xf5 Bd7xf5 Be3xa7
Bf5-d7) -2.44/25 19} a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Qd1-d2 Nb8-a6 f2-f3 c6xd5 c4xd5
Bc8-d7 O-O-O a5-a4 a2-a3 Na6-c5 Kc1-b1 Nc5-b3 Qd2-g2 Nb3-d4 f3-f4 b7-b5
Nc3-a2 Kg8-h8 Bf1-d3 Nf6-g8 f4xe5 Bg7xe5 Na2-b4 Ra8-b8 g4-g5 Qd8-e7 h3-h4
f7-f5 e4xf5) -2.48/22 8} Na6 9. Be2 Nc5 {(Na6-c5 f2-f3 c7-c6) +2.65/22 0}
10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4 c6xd5 c4xd5 h7-h5 g4-g5 Nf6-e8 O-O Bc8-d7 Kg1-h2
a5-a4 Ra1-c1 Qd8-b6 Qd1-d2 Ne8-c7 Rc1-c2 Nc7-a6 Rc2-c1 Qb6-a5 Rf1-d1 Rf8-b8
Rd1-f1 Rb8-c8 Rf1-d1 Rc8-f8 Rc1-c2 Rf8-b8 Rc2-c1 b7-b5) -2.80/25 29} *

That's right, using four threads in timed play may only add about a ply to depth but it also improves the quality for a given depth by a half ply or a bit more. But the idea here is to just set depth to 22, and the advantage of using four threads is just that it will play even faster and deprive the human of ponder time. It will also play a bit "better", but as I've said beyond 22 plies playing "better" doesn't raise your chances of winning when givng knight odds or more, and beyond 23 plies or so probably hurts them. It took me a long time to understand that beyond a certain point playing "better" is counterproductive for this purpose, you have to play "trickier".

[lkaufman]

I played the 2nd opening identical up to move 10 Vs Dragon with 4 cores no MCTS Contempt = 125 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 26, not too much difference really. In both I used the same intel i7 3.40 GHz . I gave Dragon2 an estimated rating of 2600 playing with Knight Odds, it could be less based on Jose Munoz Santana game, but of course it was TC 30'+10" NOT 10'+5"

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:26:48"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 e2-e3 O-O Bf1-d3 d7-d5 O-O
b7-b6 Qd1-c2 d5xc4 Bd3xc4 Bc8-a6 Bc4-e2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Ba6xe2 Qc2xe2 Qd8-d5
f2-f3 c7-c5 e3-e4 Qd5-b7 Qe2-f2 Nb8-c6 d4xc5 Nf6-d7 c5xb6 Qb7xb6) -3.07/23
31} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 f2-f3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bc1-g5 e6xd5
c4xd5 a7-a6 a2-a4 h7-h6 Bg5-e3 Nb8-d7 Bf1-e2 Nd7-e5 Qd1-d2 g6-g5 a4-a5
Ne5-g6 g2-g3 Ra8-b8 O-O O-O Nc3-a4 Nf6-d7 f3-f4 Nd7-f6 Na4-c3 Nf6-g4 Be2xg4
Bc8xg4 f4xg5 h6xg5) -2.55/23 15} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O Bf1-e2 Nf6-e8 Bc1-e3
e7-e5 d4-d5 f7-f5 e4xf5 g6xf5 g2-g4 Qd8-h4 Qd1-c2 f5-f4 Be3-d2 Nb8-d7 O-O-O
f4-f3 Be2-d3 Nd7-c5 Bd2-e3 Nc5xd3+ Qc2xd3 b7-b6 Nc3-e4 Ne8-f6 Ne4-g3 a7-a5
Qd3-c2) +2.58/22 13} 6. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 e6xd5 c4xd5
b7-b6 O-O Bc8-a6 Be3-f4 Nf6-e8 Bf4-h2 Ba6xd3 Qd1xd3 Nb8-d7 Ra1-e1 g6-g5
Qd3-c2 Bg7-e5 f2-f4 g5xf4 Bh2xf4 Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Nd7-e5 Rf4-f2 Qd8-g5 Rf2-f5
Qg5-h6 Re1-f1) -2.82/26 28} e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3 c7-c6 Bf1-e2
c6xd5 c4xd5 Nb8-a6 Ra1-c1 Bc8-d7 h3-h4 Na6-c5 b2-b4 Nc5-a6 a2-a3 Na6-c7
Be2xh5 g6xh5 Qd1xh5 f7-f5 Qh5-d1 Ra8-c8 h4-h5 h7-h6 e4xf5 Bd7xf5 Be3xa7
Bf5-d7) -2.44/25 19} a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Qd1-d2 Nb8-a6 f2-f3 c6xd5 c4xd5
Bc8-d7 O-O-O a5-a4 a2-a3 Na6-c5 Kc1-b1 Nc5-b3 Qd2-g2 Nb3-d4 f3-f4 b7-b5
Nc3-a2 Kg8-h8 Bf1-d3 Nf6-g8 f4xe5 Bg7xe5 Na2-b4 Ra8-b8 g4-g5 Qd8-e7 h3-h4
f7-f5 e4xf5) -2.48/22 8} Na6 9. Be2 Nc5 {(Na6-c5 f2-f3 c7-c6) +2.65/22 0}
10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4 c6xd5 c4xd5 h7-h5 g4-g5 Nf6-e8 O-O Bc8-d7 Kg1-h2
a5-a4 Ra1-c1 Qd8-b6 Qd1-d2 Ne8-c7 Rc1-c2 Nc7-a6 Rc2-c1 Qb6-a5 Rf1-d1 Rf8-b8
Rd1-f1 Rb8-c8 Rf1-d1 Rc8-f8 Rc1-c2 Rf8-b8 Rc2-c1 b7-b5) -2.80/25 29} *

Note: With the Fritz GUI, you have to set the time limit, THEN set the fixed depth to 22 for it to work properly. If you set the depth first, the time control setting will wipe it out. I tried a couple games myself with four threads, 15' + 10", and then depth 22 setting, and it works great. It moves very quickly, which gets me to move too fast. But if I took my time, I'd probably run too low in the endgame without any significant chance to think on its time. I suspect this setting is already strong enough to perform at 2500 FIDE level at 15' + 10".

[Chessqueen]

I played the 2nd opening identical up to move 10 Vs Dragon with 4 cores no MCTS Contempt = 125 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 26, not too much difference really. In both I used the same intel i7 3.40 GHz . I gave Dragon2 an estimated rating of 2600 playing with Knight Odds, it could be less based on Jose Munoz Santana game, but of course it was TC 30'+10" NOT 10'+5"

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:26:48"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 e2-e3 O-O Bf1-d3 d7-d5 O-O
b7-b6 Qd1-c2 d5xc4 Bd3xc4 Bc8-a6 Bc4-e2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Ba6xe2 Qc2xe2 Qd8-d5
f2-f3 c7-c5 e3-e4 Qd5-b7 Qe2-f2 Nb8-c6 d4xc5 Nf6-d7 c5xb6 Qb7xb6) -3.07/23
31} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 f2-f3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bc1-g5 e6xd5
c4xd5 a7-a6 a2-a4 h7-h6 Bg5-e3 Nb8-d7 Bf1-e2 Nd7-e5 Qd1-d2 g6-g5 a4-a5
Ne5-g6 g2-g3 Ra8-b8 O-O O-O Nc3-a4 Nf6-d7 f3-f4 Nd7-f6 Na4-c3 Nf6-g4 Be2xg4
Bc8xg4 f4xg5 h6xg5) -2.55/23 15} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O Bf1-e2 Nf6-e8 Bc1-e3
e7-e5 d4-d5 f7-f5 e4xf5 g6xf5 g2-g4 Qd8-h4 Qd1-c2 f5-f4 Be3-d2 Nb8-d7 O-O-O
f4-f3 Be2-d3 Nd7-c5 Bd2-e3 Nc5xd3+ Qc2xd3 b7-b6 Nc3-e4 Ne8-f6 Ne4-g3 a7-a5
Qd3-c2) +2.58/22 13} 6. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 c7-c5 d4-d5 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 e6xd5 c4xd5
b7-b6 O-O Bc8-a6 Be3-f4 Nf6-e8 Bf4-h2 Ba6xd3 Qd1xd3 Nb8-d7 Ra1-e1 g6-g5
Qd3-c2 Bg7-e5 f2-f4 g5xf4 Bh2xf4 Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Nd7-e5 Rf4-f2 Qd8-g5 Rf2-f5
Qg5-h6 Re1-f1) -2.82/26 28} e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3 c7-c6 Bf1-e2
c6xd5 c4xd5 Nb8-a6 Ra1-c1 Bc8-d7 h3-h4 Na6-c5 b2-b4 Nc5-a6 a2-a3 Na6-c7
Be2xh5 g6xh5 Qd1xh5 f7-f5 Qh5-d1 Ra8-c8 h4-h5 h7-h6 e4xf5 Bd7xf5 Be3xa7
Bf5-d7) -2.44/25 19} a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Qd1-d2 Nb8-a6 f2-f3 c6xd5 c4xd5
Bc8-d7 O-O-O a5-a4 a2-a3 Na6-c5 Kc1-b1 Nc5-b3 Qd2-g2 Nb3-d4 f3-f4 b7-b5
Nc3-a2 Kg8-h8 Bf1-d3 Nf6-g8 f4xe5 Bg7xe5 Na2-b4 Ra8-b8 g4-g5 Qd8-e7 h3-h4
f7-f5 e4xf5) -2.48/22 8} Na6 9. Be2 Nc5 {(Na6-c5 f2-f3 c7-c6) +2.65/22 0}
10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4 c6xd5 c4xd5 h7-h5 g4-g5 Nf6-e8 O-O Bc8-d7 Kg1-h2
a5-a4 Ra1-c1 Qd8-b6 Qd1-d2 Ne8-c7 Rc1-c2 Nc7-a6 Rc2-c1 Qb6-a5 Rf1-d1 Rf8-b8
Rd1-f1 Rb8-c8 Rf1-d1 Rc8-f8 Rc1-c2 Rf8-b8 Rc2-c1 b7-b5) -2.80/25 29} *

Note: With the Fritz GUI, you have to set the time limit, THEN set the fixed depth to 22 for it to work properly. If you set the depth first, the time control setting will wipe it out. I tried a couple games myself with four threads, 15' + 10", and then depth 22 setting, and it works great. It moves very quickly, which gets me to move too fast. But if I took my time, I'd probably run too low in the endgame without any significant chance to think on its time. I suspect this setting is already strong enough to perform at 2500 FIDE level at 15' + 10".

Thank, he just called me and he wants to start in 2 minutes on Skype, since he has something important to do in the Capital of Santo Domingo which is 35 minutes away from where he live.

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00. I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw today just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics. I decided to continue using my intel i7 3.40 GHz with No MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores or 4 threads, and Contempt = 125 Ponder on, So far Dragon is taking the lead I will post the complete game very soon. Komodo Rules! the odds giving among top engines.


[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 d5 2. e3 g6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Nc6
8. a3 Bf5 9. f3 Ne8 10. Ba2 Nd6 11. d5 Na5 12. e4 Bd7 13. Qe1 c5 14. e5 Nf5
15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Rf2 Nb3 17. Rd1 Nbd4 18. Kh1 Rad8 19. h3 Rfe8 20. Rc1 Nb3
21. Rd1 Rc8 22. g4 Nfd4 23. Kg2 Rf8 24. Qe3 Rcd8 25. Bh6 Rfe8 26. h4 Bxh6
27. Qxh6 Kh8 28. d6 e6 29. h5 Rg8 30. Bxb3 Nxb3 31. Ne4 gxh5 32. Nf6 Rg7
33. Rh1 Bb5 34. Qxh5 Bd3 35. Kg3 Nd4 36. Rfh2 Ne2+ 37. Rxe2 Rdg8 38. Reh2
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00. I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw today just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics. I decided to continue using my intel i7 3.40 GHz with No MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores or 4 threads, and Contempt = 125 Ponder on, So far Dragon is taking the lead I will post the complete game very soon. Komodo Rules! the odds giving among top engines.


[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 d5 2. e3 g6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Nc6
8. a3 Bf5 9. f3 Ne8 10. Ba2 Nd6 11. d5 Na5 12. e4 Bd7 13. Qe1 c5 14. e5 Nf5
15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Rf2 Nb3 17. Rd1 Nbd4 18. Kh1 Rad8 19. h3 Rfe8 20. Rc1 Nb3
21. Rd1 Rc8 22. g4 Nfd4 23. Kg2 Rf8 24. Qe3 Rcd8 25. Bh6 Rfe8 26. h4 Bxh6
27. Qxh6 Kh8 28. d6 e6 29. h5 Rg8 30. Bxb3 Nxb3 31. Ne4 gxh5 32. Nf6 Rg7
33. Rh1 Bb5 34. Qxh5 Bd3 35. Kg3 Nd4 36. Rfh2 Ne2+ 37. Rxe2 Rdg8 38. Reh2
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Jose Munoz spoke with amazement about Komodo Dragon2 he said that he will definitively purchase Dragon2 in the next few days, before this match he never heard about Komodo Dragon2, now he will be using Dragon2 for training, He told me that one of his best game ever was this one against a player rated 2461 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1592881

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00. I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw today just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics. I decided to continue using my intel i7 3.40 GHz with No MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores or 4 threads, and Contempt = 125 Ponder on, So far Dragon is taking the lead I will post the complete game very soon. Komodo Rules! the odds giving among top engines.


[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 d5 2. e3 g6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Nc6
8. a3 Bf5 9. f3 Ne8 10. Ba2 Nd6 11. d5 Na5 12. e4 Bd7 13. Qe1 c5 14. e5 Nf5
15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Rf2 Nb3 17. Rd1 Nbd4 18. Kh1 Rad8 19. h3 Rfe8 20. Rc1 Nb3
21. Rd1 Rc8 22. g4 Nfd4 23. Kg2 Rf8 24. Qe3 Rcd8 25. Bh6 Rfe8 26. h4 Bxh6
27. Qxh6 Kh8 28. d6 e6 29. h5 Rg8 30. Bxb3 Nxb3 31. Ne4 gxh5 32. Nf6 Rg7
33. Rh1 Bb5 34. Qxh5 Bd3 35. Kg3 Nd4 36. Rfh2 Ne2+ 37. Rxe2 Rdg8 38. Reh2
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Remarkable game! Can you estimate how much time each player used for the game? If Dragon was limited to 22 plies and using four threads it probably only used a few minutes or less. Did it cause him to play too quickly or did he use his time properly?

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00. I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw today just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics. I decided to continue using my intel i7 3.40 GHz with No MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores or 4 threads, and Contempt = 125 Ponder on, So far Dragon is taking the lead I will post the complete game very soon. Komodo Rules! the odds giving among top engines.


[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 d5 2. e3 g6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Nc6
8. a3 Bf5 9. f3 Ne8 10. Ba2 Nd6 11. d5 Na5 12. e4 Bd7 13. Qe1 c5 14. e5 Nf5
15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Rf2 Nb3 17. Rd1 Nbd4 18. Kh1 Rad8 19. h3 Rfe8 20. Rc1 Nb3
21. Rd1 Rc8 22. g4 Nfd4 23. Kg2 Rf8 24. Qe3 Rcd8 25. Bh6 Rfe8 26. h4 Bxh6
27. Qxh6 Kh8 28. d6 e6 29. h5 Rg8 30. Bxb3 Nxb3 31. Ne4 gxh5 32. Nf6 Rg7
33. Rh1 Bb5 34. Qxh5 Bd3 35. Kg3 Nd4 36. Rfh2 Ne2+ 37. Rxe2 Rdg8 38. Reh2
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Remarkable game! Can you estimate how much time each player used for the game? If Dragon was limited to 22 plies and using four threads it probably only used a few minutes or less. Did it cause him to play too quickly or did he use his time properly?

Komodo only used 4 1/2 minutes for the entire game and and Jose used 17 minutes, he spent most of his time on the last 5 or 6 moves worried not knowing how to get out of that horrible position that Komodo forced him into. I saw him on Skype scratching his head and moving left and right on disbelieve of how quickly Komodo dragon2 turn his game into a hopeless and defensively position. Komodo rules! it is the King engine of the Odds giver.

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00. I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw today just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics. I decided to continue using my intel i7 3.40 GHz with No MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores or 4 threads, and Contempt = 125 Ponder on, So far Dragon is taking the lead I will post the complete game very soon. Komodo Rules! the odds giving among top engines.


[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 d5 2. e3 g6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Nc6
8. a3 Bf5 9. f3 Ne8 10. Ba2 Nd6 11. d5 Na5 12. e4 Bd7 13. Qe1 c5 14. e5 Nf5
15. Bf4 Qb6 16. Rf2 Nb3 17. Rd1 Nbd4 18. Kh1 Rad8 19. h3 Rfe8 20. Rc1 Nb3
21. Rd1 Rc8 22. g4 Nfd4 23. Kg2 Rf8 24. Qe3 Rcd8 25. Bh6 Rfe8 26. h4 Bxh6
27. Qxh6 Kh8 28. d6 e6 29. h5 Rg8 30. Bxb3 Nxb3 31. Ne4 gxh5 32. Nf6 Rg7
33. Rh1 Bb5 34. Qxh5 Bd3 35. Kg3 Nd4 36. Rfh2 Ne2+ 37. Rxe2 Rdg8 38. Reh2
{Black resigns} *[/pgn]

Remarkable game! Can you estimate how much time each player used for the game? If Dragon was limited to 22 plies and using four threads it probably only used a few minutes or less. Did it cause him to play too quickly or did he use his time properly?

Komodo only used 4 1/2 minutes for the entire game and and Jose used 17 minutes, he spent most of his time on the last 5 or 6 moves worried not knowing how to get out of that horrible position that Komodo forced him into. I saw him on Skype scratching his head and moving left and right on disbelieve of how quickly Komodo dragon2 turn his game into a hopeless and defensively position. Komodo rules! it is the King engine of the Odds giver.

In view of these results, perhaps you should try playing Dragon 2 yourself under the same conditions except with rook (a1) odds instead of knight odds, only changing Contempt to 150 instead of 125. Probably Dragon will win since the difference between rook odds and knight odds should be considerably less than the 470 estimated elo points between you and Jose, but I don't know if Dragon will play rook odds as well as it plays knight odds. If it does beat you a couple games convincingly, we could try to find an opponent somewhere around 2200 FIDE for a rook odds test. Actually that would describe me, but I'm not a typical 2200 FIDE player for many reasons, especially my tremendous experience with handicap play and engines.