Eman chooses to cease distribution to comply with GPLv3

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Re: Eman chooses to cease distribution to comply with GPLv3

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Hi Ed,

I think that we can prohibit links to where illegal engines can be obtained, but we can't stop discussion of them (although the Engine Origins forum should be where such discussion occurs).
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My interpretation of "questionable legal status" in the context of the charter is "postings that might lead to legal action against TalkChess".
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Graham Banks wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:58 am Hi Ed,

I think that we can prohibit links to where illegal engines can be obtained, but we can't stop discussion of them (although the Engine Origins forum should be where such discussion occurs).
hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:40 pm My interpretation of "questionable legal status" in the context of the charter is "postings that might lead to legal action against TalkChess".
Alright, both good points.

I was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
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hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:40 pm My interpretation of "questionable legal status" in the context of the charter is "postings that might lead to legal action against TalkChess".
Yes, exactly. Still, should he become moderator, allow me to openly declare support for chewing gum and gays, which are illegal in Singapore and Uganda respectively. He can instaban me by referring to this.
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Rebel wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:47 pmI was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
Indeed, this is a problem. But I don't think the postings themselves are the cause. These are just symptoms of the toxic environment that the chess-programming community has become. People seem to have grown completely intolerant w.r.t. every opinion different from their own.
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hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:21 pm
Rebel wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:47 pmI was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
Indeed, this is a problem. But I don't think the postings themselves are the cause. These are just symptoms of the toxic environment that the chess-programming community has become. People seem to have grown completely intolerant w.r.t. every opinion different from their own.
Indeed , welcome to the USA ;>)
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MikeB wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:35 pm
hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:21 pm
Rebel wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:47 pmI was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
Indeed, this is a problem. But I don't think the postings themselves are the cause. These are just symptoms of the toxic environment that the chess-programming community has become. People seem to have grown completely intolerant w.r.t. every opinion different from their own.
Indeed , welcome to the USA ;>)
I wished if it was welcome to the USA, I would say welcome to the 21st century... I have lived my past ten years in almost all the continents, and this is present everywhere :(
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I'm done with Talkchess.

What used to be a constructive place to discuss about the latest chess engines and techniques to be used in computer chess has devolved into a toxic dumpster for people arguing over cloning, GPL violations, uniqueness, free speech on the CTF, ip banning, moderators behaviour, etc. I'm as guilty of participating in this as the rest of you are, but nothing ever gets anywhere with these endless arguments apart from making people hate each other. So I'm done.

Good bye.
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hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:21 pm
Rebel wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:47 pmI was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
Indeed, this is a problem. But I don't think the postings themselves are the cause. These are just symptoms of the toxic environment that the chess-programming community has become. People seem to have grown completely intolerant w.r.t. every opinion different from their own.
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amanjpro wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:38 pm
MikeB wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:35 pm
hgm wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:21 pm
Rebel wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:47 pmI was referring to Srdja. People are leaving because of these type of postings.
Indeed, this is a problem. But I don't think the postings themselves are the cause. These are just symptoms of the toxic environment that the chess-programming community has become. People seem to have grown completely intolerant w.r.t. every opinion different from their own.
Indeed , welcome to the USA ;>)
I wished if it was welcome to the USA, I would say welcome to the 21st century... I have lived my past ten years in almost all the continents, and this is present everywhere :(
Its the internet . 21st Century is the internet age.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....