Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

[AlexChess]

@DKappe @AndrewGrant really RELAX, this is a chess engines fans and authors forum, not Afghanistan. I love you all for what you are doing to feed my hobby.

If I say something wrong is because I'm Italian, not native English speaking and it's difficult for me to follow and react to all your legal confabulations

Best regards, Alex

[dkappe]

New paradox: If Albert Silver illegally distributes a Dkappe network, will Dkappe:
A) Defend Albert by posting "hot-takes" about copyright law that contradict his others postings
B) Call it an open violation, when in all previous cases he refuses to be anything but a milk-toast fence sitter

Andy,

I guess I’ll have to repeat myself yet again. Happy to do it in the hopes that you will eventually learn.

1. Violating a license is generally not illegal. It is a matter of contract law, not criminal law.
2. If someone violates a license, they should suffer the consequences.
3. The distribution of the corrected FF2 adheres to both the letter and spirit of the GPLv3. There is nothing to defend.

[AndrewGrant]

Also Dkappe's Night Nurse CF, Dark Horse CF and Toga III CF are GPLv3 compliants, since NNUE cannot be copywriteable.

What is CF? I certainly don’t distribute anything under that name. Dark Horse is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution No Derivatives 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/

If you received it embedded in an engine, I’d like to know who violated the license.

New paradox: If Albert Silver illegally distributes a Dkappe network, will Dkappe:
A) Defend Albert by posting "hot-takes" about copyright law that contradict his others postings
B) Call it an open violation, when in all previous cases he refuses to be anything but a milk-toast fence sitter

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal

[AlexChess]

New paradox: If Albert Silver illegally distributes a Dkappe network, will Dkappe:
A) Defend Albert by posting "hot-takes" about copyright law that contradict his others postings
B) Call it an open violation, when in all previous cases he refuses to be anything but a milk-toast fence sitter

Andy,

I guess I’ll have to repeat myself yet again. Happy to do it in the hopes that you will eventually learn.

1. Violating a license is generally not illegal. It is a matter of contract law, not criminal law.
2. If someone violates a license, they should suffer the consequences.
3. The distribution of the corrected FF2 adheres to both the letter and spirit of the GPLv3. There is nothing to defend.

Interesting and easy to understand

[dkappe]

Also Dkappe's Night Nurse CF, Dark Horse CF and Toga III CF are GPLv3 compliants, since NNUE cannot be copywriteable.

What is CF? I certainly don’t distribute anything under that name. Dark Horse is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution No Derivatives 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/

If you received it embedded in an engine, I’d like to know who violated the license.

New paradox: If Albert Silver illegally distributes a Dkappe network, will Dkappe:
A) Defend Albert by posting "hot-takes" about copyright law that contradict his others postings
B) Call it an open violation, when in all previous cases he refuses to be anything but a milk-toast fence sitter

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.

[AndrewGrant]

Also Dkappe's Night Nurse CF, Dark Horse CF and Toga III CF are GPLv3 compliants, since NNUE cannot be copywriteable.

What is CF? I certainly don’t distribute anything under that name. Dark Horse is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution No Derivatives 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/

If you received it embedded in an engine, I’d like to know who violated the license.

New paradox: If Albert Silver illegally distributes a Dkappe network, will Dkappe:
A) Defend Albert by posting "hot-takes" about copyright law that contradict his others postings
B) Call it an open violation, when in all previous cases he refuses to be anything but a milk-toast fence sitter

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal

[syzygy]

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.

Copyright infringement is certainly illegal.

[dkappe]

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.

Copyright infringement is certainly illegal.

A lawyer of my acquaintance expressed it this way: if you can go to jail for it, it’s illegal.

[gaard]

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.

Copyright infringement is certainly illegal.

A lawyer of my acquaintance expressed it this way: if you can go to jail for it, it’s illegal.

If you can go to jail for it, it is criminal and illegal. If it breaches tort, contract, or property law, it is still certainly illegal. Arguing semantics isn't doing any favors for ChessBase at this point.

[dkappe]

If you can go to jail for it, it is criminal and illegal. If it breaches tort, contract, or property law, it is still certainly illegal. Arguing semantics isn't doing any favors for ChessBase at this point.

Mercifully, the supposed lawsuit isn’t being tried in this kangaroo court but in an actual court. What we say here (other than utterances made by SF project members) doesn’t matter one way or another.