Stockfish 14 release round the corner

[Cornfed]

GIVEN that the two are willfully cooperating...of course it should be tested!

[Rebel]

It's indeed a strong signal.

[MikeB]

Stockfish 14 may be released in couple of days. It is likely to have an 30-35 elo gain over SF 13.
SF14 with NNUE net trained from Lc0 training games. One gets to see best of both worlds!!

Won't that pose an issue for testing groups?
At present, we only test NNUE engines that have nets trained on their own games.

Everything seems to be fair & warm in the world of NNUE engines!
Fat Fritz 2.0 was eventually accepted so too SF 14 will be!

Different situation, as the NNUE engines that we test were trained on nets consisting of their own games and evaluations (including Fat Fritz).

This is the reason we've not tested Mayhem or the latest Gogobello, perhaps others I've forgotten about too.

As Hamiton Burger would say "Incompetent, irrelevant & immaterial"

[MikeB]

"The fact that we could use and combine these datasets freely was essential for the progress made and demonstrates the power of open source and open data."

It's clear that both the LC0 team and the SF team are in complete agreement on this...
They believe that the data produced by engines, in whatever form should be open and free, and that this is key to progress.

We should not allow rating lists personal and tour directors to be pressured and/or bullied into decisions concerning rating list or tournament inclusion/exclusion.

Strict regulation and a policy of intense exclusion is the enemy of progress...

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