+1Alayan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:52 amTakeaways:frcha wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:57 amThe hypothetical is to point out what is being conveniently forgotten - that the NNUE authors (this nothing to do with Fat Fritz) could have gone a different route and decided to get some compensation for their innovation - this would have required them to foresee how groundbreaking it was as well as definitely embark on a brand new engine project .What's puzzling is why you think this hypothetical makes what actually happened in reality any better.
I began my post saying that I would have done things differently. Why should I contribute code to the #1 open source engine if I can use my innovation to dethrone it and make money in the process. Sure its a challenge but I have an edge.
It is incredibly hypocritical to disparage some one creating their own network which (bring it to court if you want) and selling it for money, when your engine is #1 ONLY because NNUE implementation was gifted as a POC.
As far as Fat Fritz 2 "controversy" - it is absolutely not one. If you think its in violation of GPL you can challenge in court. It is also perfectly moral - and the real reason for this anger is because someone cleverly figured out how to make money using open source software chess engine and a new plugin neural network.
The larger picture I am trying to paint is nothing to do with chess engines itself but the fact that there are too many people think that mediocrity and collaboration should trump meritocracy.
1) You are ignorant of the context of the context in which NNUE was invented (for Shogi engines that were using Stockfish's search, that is they were benefiting from Stockfish and the port of NNUE to chess was contributing back).
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+1Alayan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:52 am 3) You are trolling or badly mentally challenged to call criticism of Fat Fritz hypocritical, your explanation as to why it would be is nonsensical. It follows an honest conversation with you is impossible. The purpose of this post henceforth is not to change your mind in any way but to bring enjoyment to other sane people.
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5 - zip shutout ...