Does anyone here have a Ryzen 5000 CPU?

[Dann Corbit]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

What engine is this ?

He uses a particular version of Asmfish. The same engine is used for all the tests.
The top hardware has a score over four billion NPS.

[Milos]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

What engine is this ?

He uses a particular version of Asmfish. The same engine is used for all the tests.
The top hardware has a score over four billion NPS.

That's not hardware, that's data center .

[Dann Corbit]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

What engine is this ?

He uses a particular version of Asmfish. The same engine is used for all the tests.
The top hardware has a score over four billion NPS.

That's not hardware, that's data center .

Good point. I guess that time on that machine is several hundred dollars per minute.

[Leo]

I don't have one, but one of them was benchmarked on Ipman Chess:

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31.045.535	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	BMI2	Monstru
30.951.403	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X @4.55Ghz	12threads	pop	Monstru

Thanks.

[JohnWoe]

Upgraded my 6 years old (i3: 2c/4t / 8GB) to (Ryzen 7 4800U 8c/16t / 16GB (8x8GB dual channel) / Vega 8 (512 pipelines)) monster.



More pics here:

If I buy now then next week Zen 3 arch laptops are roaming stores is my fear.

I wouldn't expect it that soon, but of course waiting for half a year will always buy you better hardware.

My plan is use that ThinkPad(4800U + (8+8)GB) as my only computer for the next 10+ years.

While 16GB look fine, keep in mind that integrated graphics grab a part of the main memory, and Thinkpads have soldered RAM so that you'll need to buy a model that has 16GB right away. On the other hand, if you want a 14" laptop for work, you'll probably also want a docking station, and Thinkpads offer that.

I only need 14". That integrated will do just fine.

That leaves Thinkpad T14(AMD) or T14s(AMD). The delivery time for the built-to-order models is more than 5 weeks, so that's probably out of question.

On the other hand, the pre-built models of the T14(AMD) range cap out at only 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD, and that's ridiculous, so that narrows it down to the T14s(AMD). The only pre-built T14s(AMD) that comes with 16GB RAM is the one with 4750U, so that answers the question which CPU to choose. The 4750U is a 4700U with some business administration features.

Linux of course. Mainly work.

For the Ryzen 4000 Renoir integrated graphics, kernel 5.8 or higher is required. No prob with rolling release distros such as Manjaro, but also Ubuntu LTS has that in the HWE (hardware enablement) kernel, and by consequence, Mint offers the same. Mint 20.1, which I'm running on my 4700U, has even a download ISO with 5.8 kernel (Cinnamon Edge). The Intel AX200 wifi that the T14(s) have works well with the 5.8 kernel - I have the same wifi card.

I'm not sure whether the keyboard backlight will work OOTB under Linux. For mine, I had to install a custom driver, but since I did that via DKMS, it installs automatically upon kernel updates, so that's nice. Thinkpads maybe don't need that.

Looking at this. 4500U vs 4700U vs 4800U. There is a bit difference.

Yeah, 4700U has eight cores, 4500U only six. 4800U has also eight cores, but with SMT (AMD's hyperthreading). However, for the 4800U to deliver more punch than a 4700U, you'll need to run more than eight worker threads at the same time while not being I/O limited. Also, the Thinkpads T14s don't seem to be available with 4800U, and the Ideapads or Yoga Slims that were with 4800U are out of stock as far as I know.

I went and bought the ThinkPad with 4800U / 16GB.
Checked the screen with analytical tools for dead pixels (RGB) + black and white tests. The screen is perfect.
Tested MB/Memory and all too.

Kinda nice feeling that everything happens now in 1ms vs 3000ms old (i3 2 core)
The latest Mint in. Everything works perfectly.

What kind of CPU stats you are getting w/ your 4700U? Mine (16 CPUs) are at ~5%.

[Ras]

I went and bought the ThinkPad with 4800U / 16GB.

Congrats! What's your score with Geekbench5 (see https://www.geekbench.com/download/)? My 4700U machine gets 1233/6758 (single/multi) with Geekbench 5.3.2 and running on wall power, though especially the multi is unusually high for a 4700U.

What kind of CPU stats you are getting w/ your 4700U? Mine (16 CPUs) are at ~5%.

That looks a bit high, I'm typically seeing 0% via the Psensors panel applet, but that jumps to 2% as soon as I open that System Monitor window - I suspect the load is from the System Monitor application and the graph plotting itself. Otherwise, did you check via Menu -> Preferences -> Startup Appcliations that no unnecssary stuff is running? I've disabled Mintwelcome, NVidia Prime (pointless w/o NVidia graphics), System Reports, and Warpinator.

Aso, Mint's default swappiness of 60 is a bit high for desktop usage, about 20 is more reasonable.
File: /etc/sysctl.conf
At the end of the file, add:

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vm.swappiness=20

If you get the boot error message with the decompression (known issue in Mint), changing from LZ4 to GZIP helps:

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sudo sed -i 's/COMPRESS=lz4/COMPRESS=gzip/g' /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
sudo update-initramfs -u -k all

And for the graphics, I got slightly smoother behaviour with this:
Path: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
Edit/add file: 20-amdgpu.conf

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "AMDgpu"
    Driver "amdgpu"
    Option "TearFree" "on"
    Option "DRI" "3"
    Option "AccelMethod" "glamor"
EndSection

[JohnWoe]

I went and bought the ThinkPad with 4800U / 16GB.

Congrats! What's your score with Geekbench5 (see https://www.geekbench.com/download/)? My 4700U machine gets 1233/6758 (single/multi) with Geekbench 5.3.2 and running on wall power, though especially the multi is unusually high for a 4700U.

What kind of CPU stats you are getting w/ your 4700U? Mine (16 CPUs) are at ~5%.

That looks a bit high, I'm typically seeing 0% via the Psensors panel applet, but that jumps to 2% as soon as I open that System Monitor window - I suspect the load is from the System Monitor application and the graph plotting itself. Otherwise, did you check via Menu -> Preferences -> Startup Appcliations that no unnecssary stuff is running? I've disabled Mintwelcome, NVidia Prime (pointless w/o NVidia graphics), System Reports, and Warpinator.

Aso, Mint's default swappiness of 60 is a bit high for desktop usage, about 20 is more reasonable.
File: /etc/sysctl.conf
At the end of the file, add:

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vm.swappiness=20

If you get the boot error message with the decompression (known issue in Mint), changing from LZ4 to GZIP helps:

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sudo sed -i 's/COMPRESS=lz4/COMPRESS=gzip/g' /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
sudo update-initramfs -u -k all

And for the graphics, I got slightly smoother behaviour with this:
Path: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
Edit/add file: 20-amdgpu.conf

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "AMDgpu"
    Driver "amdgpu"
    Option "TearFree" "on"
    Option "DRI" "3"
    Option "AccelMethod" "glamor"
EndSection

Hello and thanks for valuable information!

There was so good deal on this Ryzen 7 4800U laptop. I had to pull the trigger. I have wasted more money on much worse things.
I was a little bit thinking about Gaming laptops. But plastic cases and big numpad keyboards...

To save the planet Earth mission: All "refurbished" ThinkPads were with really weak i5 (5th/6th... gen) and 500€ That didn't make any sense. I couldn't make that work. I wanted to. There was no good deals around.

I will try these speedups and run benchmarks once I get back to work. Not at the ThinkPad atm.
Already extremely fast. All basic operations I do. Encyption, zipping, compiling ... are super fast.

I like Mint because it's minimalistic and fast. That's all I want. Not bloatware and crap.

Windows 10 took 50GB of my SSD.
Installed Mint took 5GB of my SSD.

I forgot to install Linux 5.8. Once I did that all 16 CPUs went 0-1%. I posted on Reddit a screenshot:

They told me in store this is not for gaming. Rubbish. This is the best gaming machine I have ever tried.

I tried Xonotic a little bit. I went w/ Ultra settings and I'm getting stable 150 FPS. In a big map 20+ people spamming rockets like crazy.
No CPU throttling.
No heating.

Ok, I'm not competitive with all motion blur crap. But just a quick test. These 16 CPUs + Vega 8 are a monster.

[JohnWoe]

I went and bought the ThinkPad with 4800U / 16GB.

Congrats! What's your score with Geekbench5 (see https://www.geekbench.com/download/)? My 4700U machine gets 1233/6758 (single/multi) with Geekbench 5.3.2 and running on wall power, though especially the multi is unusually high for a 4700U.

Hello!
I put some speedups in (Also in Firefox disabled ssd swap)
I got: 1227 (Single-Core Score) 6256 (Multi-Core Score)

Linux kernel the latest: 5.8.0-43-generic
BIOS: 1.08. Might need to update this

Propably need to check thermal paste on CPU. I orderer new thermal paste. I have also extra tiny heatsinks...

You got better results eventho running 4700U vs mine 4800U. I have (3200Mhz 8x8 GB DDR4 RAM). I'm running Cinnamon maybe there are faster desktops.
I tried w/o internet connection but this stupid geekbench won't show results.

Anyway I love my ThinkPad
Good to be back to AMD. All my comps have been AMD except the slow i3 laptop

[Ras]

I got: 1227 (Single-Core Score) 6256 (Multi-Core Score)

That's pretty OK for a 4800U when I browser Geekbench for that. My 4700U is expectionally high. It also matters a lot how the cooling system is designed.

However, I strongly disadvise against re-pasting the laptop just like that. For one, it's easy to bend these copper heatpipes just from disassembling them, and then they don't work anymore. What's worse is that laptops are very prone to the pump-out-effect. Paste that is good for desktop coolers may degrade in laptops in a matter of mere weeks because it gets pumped out from where it's supposed to be.

I have (3200Mhz 8x8 GB DDR4 RAM). I'm running Cinnamon maybe there are faster desktops.

I have 2x16GB 3200 RAM. I don't think you really have 8x8GB because I don't think there's a laptop that would support eight RAM bars (maybe you have 2x32GB, or 2x8GB?). Cinnamon isn't the most lightweight desktop, but I'm on Cinnamon, too, so that won't be a factor.

Anyway I love my ThinkPad

Yeah, it's a nice thing for sure!

[Raphexon]

I got: 1227 (Single-Core Score) 6256 (Multi-Core Score)

That's pretty OK for a 4800U when I browser Geekbench for that. My 4700U is expectionally high. It also matters a lot how the cooling system is designed.

However, I strongly disadvise against re-pasting the laptop just like that. For one, it's easy to bend these copper heatpipes just from disassembling them, and then they don't work anymore. What's worse is that laptops are very prone to the pump-out-effect. Paste that is good for desktop coolers may degrade in laptops in a matter of mere weeks because it gets pumped out from where it's supposed to be.

I have (3200Mhz 8x8 GB DDR4 RAM). I'm running Cinnamon maybe there are faster desktops.

I have 2x16GB 3200 RAM. I don't think you really have 8x8GB because I don't think there's a laptop that would support eight RAM bars (maybe you have 2x32GB, or 2x8GB?). Cinnamon isn't the most lightweight desktop, but I'm on Cinnamon, too, so that won't be a factor.

Anyway I love my ThinkPad

Yeah, it's a nice thing for sure!

That's why you should use a good thermal pad for laptops.