New engine releases & news 2021

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Re: New engine releases & news 2021

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Graham Banks wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:24 pm
Brunetti wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:36 pm Amoeba 3.4

https://github.com/abulmo/amoeba

Alex
No Windows compiles yet though.
You are faster than me ;-)
The windows compile should be there now. (I had to update a few things before compiling for Windows, which takes ages...)
Have fun with it
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abulmo2 wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:16 pm
Graham Banks wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:24 pm
Brunetti wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:36 pm Amoeba 3.4

https://github.com/abulmo/amoeba

Alex
No Windows compiles yet though.
You are faster than me ;-)
The windows compile should be there now. (I had to update a few things before compiling for Windows, which takes ages...)
Have fun with it
Thanks, Richard.
New version playing in Division 5 now. :-)
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Princhess 0.6.0 released
https://github.com/princesslana/prinche ... /tag/0.6.0

This is mainly based on timing (release what I have before I take off for Christmas). For me, she seems to play more inconsistently than previously, but has gained elo in self play. Not sure how she'll do vs other engines.

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Score of Princhess-0.6.0 vs Princhess-0.5.1: 524 - 356 - 120  [0.584] 1000
...      Princhess-0.6.0 playing White: 273 - 172 - 55  [0.601] 500
...      Princhess-0.6.0 playing Black: 251 - 184 - 65  [0.567] 500
...      White vs Black: 457 - 423 - 120  [0.517] 1000
Elo difference: 58.9 +/- 20.4, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 12.0 %
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021

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Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 am Princhess 0.6.0 released
https://github.com/princesslana/prinche ... /tag/0.6.0

This is mainly based on timing (release what I have before I take off for Christmas). For me, she seems to play more inconsistently than previously, but has gained elo in self play. Not sure how she'll do vs other engines.
"Switch to neural net for eval"

Will you please elaborate on that? I can see the exe size has not changed so it must be some home-cooked net.

BTW, source compiles into 0.0.0-dev, not 0.6.0.
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mvanthoor wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:06 am
Werewolf wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:15 pm HIARCS 15 looks like end of this week / early next week
After almost 10 years? That'd better make a splash with a +500-600 improvement or nobody will pay any attention to it.
I disagree. As long as it is the REAL Hiarcs (not like "Fritz" which has had 20 authors since the legendary Frans Morsch) and retains its nice positional playing style, I will buy it in an instant.

I'm sure a lot of old-school computer chess fellas fall into the same boat as me.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. :lol:
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+1 :)
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BrendanJNorman wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:27 pm I disagree. As long as it is the REAL Hiarcs (not like "Fritz" which has had 20 authors since the legendary Frans Morsch) and retains its nice positional playing style, I will buy it in an instant.

I'm sure a lot of old-school computer chess fellas fall into the same boat as me.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. :lol:
Yeah, granted. Deep Fritz 13 was the last real Fritz. Nowadays "Fritz" is just the user interface program, running some engine renamed "Fritz". HIARCS 14.1 already was 3150 Elo or thereabouts, on 4 threads. It's possible to reach 3100 on a single thread (see Strelka), gain another 100-150 for multithreading on 4 cores, which makes 3200-3250. Then you get into the "realm of the weird", where you need to do lots of work for every 20-30 Elo. (Stockfish has been at it for what; 10 years?) If Mark Uniacke did this on his own, I can imagine that it takes 10 years. I can also imagine that he at some point decided to "just" outfit HIARCS with a NNUE network of his own making (keeping the 14.1 evaluation as an option) and then release it as HIARCS 15. It would make sense.

I wonder what people like him, and Stephan Meyer-Kahlen now do as a daily job. I can't believe that there's enough money in commercial chess engines to live off of nowadays.
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Gabor Szots wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:47 am
Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 am Princhess 0.6.0 released
https://github.com/princesslana/prinche ... /tag/0.6.0

This is mainly based on timing (release what I have before I take off for Christmas). For me, she seems to play more inconsistently than previously, but has gained elo in self play. Not sure how she'll do vs other engines.
"Switch to neural net for eval"

Will you please elaborate on that? I can see the exe size has not changed so it must be some home-cooked net.
Previously Princhess used a ML learned linear model, now uses a ML learned net. In both cases the model is included in the exe.
BTW, source compiles into 0.0.0-dev, not 0.6.0.
This is expected. The source just has a dummy/dev version, with releases setting the version when they're built.
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Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:56 pm
Gabor Szots wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:47 am
Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 am Princhess 0.6.0 released
https://github.com/princesslana/prinche ... /tag/0.6.0

This is mainly based on timing (release what I have before I take off for Christmas). For me, she seems to play more inconsistently than previously, but has gained elo in self play. Not sure how she'll do vs other engines.
"Switch to neural net for eval"

Will you please elaborate on that? I can see the exe size has not changed so it must be some home-cooked net.
Previously Princhess used a ML learned linear model, now uses a ML learned net. In both cases the model is included in the exe.
BTW, source compiles into 0.0.0-dev, not 0.6.0.
This is expected. The source just has a dummy/dev version, with releases setting the version when they're built.
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Chessqueen wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:26 pm
Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:56 pm
Gabor Szots wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:47 am
Lana Samson wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 am Princhess 0.6.0 released
https://github.com/princesslana/prinche ... /tag/0.6.0

This is mainly based on timing (release what I have before I take off for Christmas). For me, she seems to play more inconsistently than previously, but has gained elo in self play. Not sure how she'll do vs other engines.
"Switch to neural net for eval"

Will you please elaborate on that? I can see the exe size has not changed so it must be some home-cooked net.
Previously Princhess used a ML learned linear model, now uses a ML learned net. In both cases the model is included in the exe.
BTW, source compiles into 0.0.0-dev, not 0.6.0.
This is expected. The source just has a dummy/dev version, with releases setting the version when they're built.
How Strong is Berserk 7.0 NNUE https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2021/ ... -nnue.html
Do you mean using Berserk's net in Princhess? Princhess doesn't support using other nets (or even any net apart from the one compiled in yet)
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