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Re: Man versus Machine 2021 Father versus Stockfish 14. Draw. My first game.

Post by Uri Blass » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:08 am

Father wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:14 pm
"I am in."
My first game against Stockfish 14
10/07/2021
With love to my Father and Mother Q.E.P.D.
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess


I do not understand why it is a draw when I see that black moved a pawn in the last move so it is not a draw by the chess rules.
Maybe white could draw by continue the game but I do not see a full game of draw.

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Re: Man versus Machine 2021 Father versus Stockfish 14. Draw. My first game.

Post by tmokonen » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:39 am

Uri Blass wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:08 am
Father wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:14 pm
"I am in."
My first game against Stockfish 14
10/07/2021
With love to my Father and Mother Q.E.P.D.
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess


I do not understand why it is a draw when I see that black moved a pawn in the last move so it is not a draw by the chess rules.
Maybe white could draw by continue the game but I do not see a full game of draw.
There's no way Stockfish would have taken 32 seconds on 51... f6 in a five minute game.

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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by lucasart » Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:21 am
Anyone paying attention knows that the guy got tired of this place.

He'd post some flowery title like...

"GRANDFATHER AGAINST 64 CORE MONSTER OF DOOM DEFENDS HUMANKIND!"

...then embed a stonewall setup where he shuffled for 300 moves and flagged someone on PlayChess...

...to the instant flaming of the people here, who were delighted to be shooting holes in all of his posts.

Personally, I think it is skillful the way he setup the stonewalls, but also a bit lame.

Anything that is not chess, but pretends to be, is lame to me.

Anyway, of course, he left, because he probably felt like his brilliance was unappreciated.

A man's ego can only bear so much.
He should participate in TCEC. That would be hilarious. Suddently, under the pressure of the live, none of his stonewall wizardry would work, and he would get destroyed in 20 moves (or less) by the "weak" engines of Division 5, like the rest of us.

All his games are bogus. He sets up some bogus time control for the computer, bogus opening book, bogus resign parameters, bogus everything... He replays the same game again and again, effectively winning it by trial and error. etc.
Theory and practice sometimes clash. And when that happens, theory loses. Every single time.

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Post by Father » Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:19 am

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by Father » Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:32 am

lucasart wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:21 am
Anyone paying attention knows that the guy got tired of this place.

He'd post some flowery title like...

"GRANDFATHER AGAINST 64 CORE MONSTER OF DOOM DEFENDS HUMANKIND!"

...then embed a stonewall setup where he shuffled for 300 moves and flagged someone on PlayChess...

...to the instant flaming of the people here, who were delighted to be shooting holes in all of his posts.

Personally, I think it is skillful the way he setup the stonewalls, but also a bit lame.

Anything that is not chess, but pretends to be, is lame to me.

Anyway, of course, he left, because he probably felt like his brilliance was unappreciated.

A man's ego can only bear so much.
He should participate in TCEC. That would be hilarious. Suddently, under the pressure of the live, none of his stonewall wizardry would work, and he would get destroyed in 20 moves (or less) by the "weak" engines of Division 5, like the rest of us.

All his games are bogus. He sets up some bogus time control for the computer, bogus opening book, bogus resign parameters, bogus everything... He replays the same game again and again, effectively winning it by trial and error. etc.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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IA cannot understand the human brain.

Post by Father » Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 am

Father wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:32 am
lucasart wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:21 am
Anyone paying attention knows that the guy got tired of this place.

He'd post some flowery title like...

"GRANDFATHER AGAINST 64 CORE MONSTER OF DOOM DEFENDS HUMANKIND!"

...then embed a stonewall setup where he shuffled for 300 moves and flagged someone on PlayChess...

...to the instant flaming of the people here, who were delighted to be shooting holes in all of his posts.

Personally, I think it is skillful the way he setup the stonewalls, but also a bit lame.

Anything that is not chess, but pretends to be, is lame to me.

Anyway, of course, he left, because he probably felt like his brilliance was unappreciated.

A man's ego can only bear so much.
He should participate in TCEC. That would be hilarious. Suddently, under the pressure of the live, none of his stonewall wizardry would work, and he would get destroyed in 20 moves (or less) by the "weak" engines of Division 5, like the rest of us.

All his games are bogus. He sets up some bogus time control for the computer, bogus opening book, bogus resign parameters, bogus everything... He replays the same game again and again, effectively winning it by trial and error. etc.
July 10 2021
" I am in."
Man versus machine.
Best regards,
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess user
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Rated game mode. Results draw for Threefold repetition. Man versus machine. Man versus Stockfish 14

Post by Father » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:36 pm

jmartus wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Is he able to beat these new generation of chess engines?
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by Uri Blass » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:37 pm

lucasart wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:18 am
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:21 am
Anyone paying attention knows that the guy got tired of this place.

He'd post some flowery title like...

"GRANDFATHER AGAINST 64 CORE MONSTER OF DOOM DEFENDS HUMANKIND!"

...then embed a stonewall setup where he shuffled for 300 moves and flagged someone on PlayChess...

...to the instant flaming of the people here, who were delighted to be shooting holes in all of his posts.

Personally, I think it is skillful the way he setup the stonewalls, but also a bit lame.

Anything that is not chess, but pretends to be, is lame to me.

Anyway, of course, he left, because he probably felt like his brilliance was unappreciated.

A man's ego can only bear so much.
He should participate in TCEC. That would be hilarious. Suddently, under the pressure of the live, none of his stonewall wizardry would work, and he would get destroyed in 20 moves (or less) by the "weak" engines of Division 5, like the rest of us.

All his games are bogus. He sets up some bogus time control for the computer, bogus opening book, bogus resign parameters, bogus everything... He replays the same game again and again, effectively winning it by trial and error. etc.
I do not think that humans can participate in computer tournaments.

The TCEC may be too strong but humans can certainly beat the weak engines in CCRL and get some CCRL rating list if there are humans who are interested in it and the CCRL is interested(same for some other rating lists like CEGT)

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K.O. in a bullet game to stockfish 14 on time. Father beat the chess computer.

Post by Father » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:38 pm

Father has won to stockfish 14 in a bulet game 1-0 time control.
Rated game mode.
July 12 2021
Here the game.

reflectionofpower wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:10 am
mwyoung wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:58 pm
lkaufman wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:18 pm
jmartus wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Is he able to beat these new generation of chess engines?
The question should be re-worded: "is he able to DRAW these new generation chess engines?"
He was not able to draw some very old chess engines. It just depended on how well it was programmed to avoid his anti-computer tactics. I remember ChessTiger just murdered him, and he was never able to draw this engine. I believe the NN understand about locked positions.

I remember on ICC decades ago when some GM's did not want to play Chess Tiger. It would just go right through them.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: K.O. in a bullet game to stockfish 14 on time. Father beat the chess computer.

Post by peter » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:48 pm

Father wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:38 pm
Father has won to stockfish 14 in a bulet game 1-0 time control.
Rated game mode.
July 12 2021
Here the game.

Congrats, Pablo, even if SF had a won position at the end, when it lost on time, didn't it?
Yet a full point for you regards
Peter.

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