Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
If it is for Carslen it is for you as well :)
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
Well, we beat GM Perelshteyn rather easily giving him five move odds, so I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near full comp for a knight. My guess is that Komodo could give this knight for five move handicap to a very strong GM, but probably not to Carlsen. Maybe it's about like f7 handicap or a bit more.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Do you think Kasparov is willing to face Komodo with material odds handicap?

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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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lkaufman wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
Well, we beat GM Perelshteyn rather easily giving him five move odds, so I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near full comp for a knight. My guess is that Komodo could give this knight for five move handicap to a very strong GM, but probably not to Carlsen. Maybe it's about like f7 handicap or a bit more.
I test Stockfish against Fizbo at 3min + 2 sec with 4 core and I let you know if he manages to draw some or win some. I m sure he will.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Stockfish made the draw without problem. Fizbo is a lot stronger than Carslen. Of course many engines play less good than human in handicap match. But I still think Carslen might loose this match.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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Nordlandia wrote:Do you think Kasparov is willing to face Komodo with material odds handicap?

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I'm pretty sure he would not be willing, but if he were willing I would propose we give him the same two pawn handicaps he gave to a British tycoon around 2100 ELo level near the turn of the century. Since he introduced the two pawn handicap to the world, he should like that handicap. Maybe he would be favored, but since they all included the "a" pawn it's more like 1 1/2 pawns.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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JJJ wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
If it is for Carslen it is for you as well :)
don't fair well with this one, have to train a lot.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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lkaufman wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:this one is for Carlsen:

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3PP3/4BN2/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 1

giving SF or Komodo 5 full tempos, even with a knight up, should not be an easy task, if at all position is not draw or won for white.
Well, we beat GM Perelshteyn rather easily giving him five move odds, so I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near full comp for a knight. My guess is that Komodo could give this knight for five move handicap to a very strong GM, but probably not to Carlsen. Maybe it's about like f7 handicap or a bit more.
I guess it is much more than f7 handicap, still have not won a game with black, but have not played that many.
even drawing is difficult.
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Re: Some handicap results and conclusions.

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JJJ wrote:Stockfish made the draw without problem. Fizbo is a lot stronger than Carslen. Of course many engines play less good than human in handicap match. But I still think Carslen might loose this match.
you need at least 10 games to draw any conclusions.