Anyone here who plays chess?? (aka Houdini "match"

[Rolf]

3.) ... But R4 here isnt actually supported IMO and must play with the bugs it brought into it from the beginning. ...

when Vas the bugs not removed, so is not Martins fault.
so must r4 let beat up

btw. The bugs do not affect the strength.

Yeah,but Rolf is way too stupid to understand this trivial fact....
Dr.D

Hello Dr. Deeb,

A post made entirely for the purposes of insulting a member's intelligence could be seen as a personal attack you know.

Think about it.

Later.

Hi Roger,
I've crossed the line,I know....
But believe me,this guy is a nasty disease and must be delt with very carefully....
leaving the matter to the
moderators regards,
Dr.D

Question is what is the disease in this case! How about a little reality check - usually a very strong diagnostic tool in psychiatry. But in chess too. Therefore I asked the question if we had chessplayers here.

Please all, just take a look into another tournament, actually played by our member Frank Q. from Germany.

As far as I could understand it Frank has the design of playing without TB and that means for Rybka 4 that it couldnt win some technical endgames, so, in consequence, R4 failed the final. --

This is absolutely unfair. This way you can pre-configure every outcome. Say, you want to prove that a certain feature is missing, who cares if it makes sense to expect it but Frank even argues that professional testers would have found it for Rybka, that then the author would have fixed this. But no, he didnt, and therefore Frank is reveiling this weakness by just letting Rybka lose some strength by bug interfering.

My conclusion is, that for normal chessplayers this version of Rybka has no bug of TB at all, because every amateur knows what endgames are technically won. It is completely irrelevant to see, if a machine program knows it too - if you stop usin TB for the endgame. But sure, friends of the automatical play, where only the results are focussed without any chess content, there such a bug becomes a nasty feature. I dont know if you knew there is a so called IPON list whose author doesnt publish the gamescores at all.

So, if you forget about chess, irrelevant bugs become a feature for Gods among testers. In psychiatry: "Well doctor, can I decide to not breathe anymore for showing my superiority?" Answer: "Of course, sir, but dont forget to live."

Another tricky variation of testing is if you use unreadable notation, so that even the interested chessplayers are demotivated to take a closer look to the games because they are all used to play wit easy pgn code - even without a board nearby. But again, this would ask for real chessplaying talents.

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There is no doubt that the new cluster Rybka offer is the best for young chess talents in special.National trainers will work with it for the benefit of their prodigies.

http://rybkachess.com/Cluster/impressum.html

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

3.) ... But R4 here isnt actually supported IMO and must play with the bugs it brought into it from the beginning. ...

when Vas the bugs not removed, so is not Martins fault.
so must r4 let beat up

btw. The bugs do not affect the strength.

Yeah,but Rolf is way too stupid to understand this trivial fact....
Dr.D

Hello Dr. Deeb,

A post made entirely for the purposes of insulting a member's intelligence could be seen as a personal attack you know.

Think about it.

Later.

Hi Roger,
I've crossed the line,I know....
But believe me,this guy is a nasty disease and must be delt with very carefully....
leaving the matter to the
moderators regards,
Dr.D

Question is what is the disease in this case! How about a little reality check - usually a very strong diagnostic tool in psychiatry. But in chess too. Therefore I asked the question if we had chessplayers here.

Please all, just take a look into another tournament, actually played by our member Frank Q. from Germany.

As far as I could understand it Frank has the design of playing without TB and that means for Rybka 4 that it couldnt win some technical endgames, so, in consequence, R4 failed the final. --

This is absolutely unfair. This way you can pre-configure every outcome. Say, you want to prove that a certain feature is missing, who cares if it makes sense to expect it but Frank even argues that professional testers would have found it for Rybka, that then the author would have fixed this. But no, he didnt, and therefore Frank is reveiling this weakness by just letting Rybka lose some strength by bug interfering.

My conclusion is, that for normal chessplayers this version of Rybka has no bug of TB at all, because every amateur knows what endgames are technically won. It is completely irrelevant to see, if a machine program knows it too - if you stop usin TB for the endgame. But sure, friends of the automatical play, where only the results are focussed without any chess content, there such a bug becomes a nasty feature. I dont know if you knew there is a so called IPON list whose author doesnt publish the gamescores at all.

So, if you forget about chess, irrelevant bugs become a feature for Gods among testers. In psychiatry: "Well doctor, can I decide to not breathe anymore for showing my superiority?" Answer: "Of course, sir, but dont forget to live."

Another tricky variation of testing is if you use unreadable notation, so that even the interested chessplayers are demotivated to take a closer look to the games because they are all used to play wit easy pgn code - even without a board nearby. But again, this would ask for real chessplaying talents.

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There is no doubt that the new cluster Rybka offer is the best for young chess talents in special.National trainers will work with it for the benefit of their prodigies.


Commercial advertisement is against the charter....
Dr.D

[Rolf]

There is no doubt that the new cluster Rybka offer is the best for young chess talents in special.National trainers will work with it for the benefit of their prodigies.

Commercial advertisement is against the charter....
Dr.D

Hi there. Have you a doctor in chess or computerchess? Nope!

You are commercially advertising, at least hoping for. Take care.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

There is no doubt that the new cluster Rybka offer is the best for young chess talents in special.National trainers will work with it for the benefit of their prodigies.

Commercial advertisement is against the charter....
Dr.D

Hi there. Have you a doctor in chess or computerchess? Nope!

You are commercially advertising, at least hoping for. Take care.

I am not advertising....you are....
Dr.D

[Roger Brown]

Doctor Deeb, Rolf,

I looked at the link.

It is two sentences and a link. There is no flagrant attempt to sell it - unless you count Rolf's flowery prose - and you do have to read Rolf's post to see it which is a price in and of itself.

I therefore think it can be allowed once, but the repeated references were deleted.

Let Rybkachess do their own advertising.

Later.