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Should Computer Chess Club get a dedicated chess computer and vintage software Subforum ?

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Yes , dedicated chess computer and vintage software are the roots of computerchess
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No, only new state of the art computerchess software is interesting here
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don’t know, don’t care
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Re: Should Computer Chess Club get a dedicated chess computer subforum

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today in almost 2 years later i do continue the tournament with 2 new entries:

CT800 dedicated machine and DSChess on the Nintendo DSi.

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    Motor                                    Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaCTDS    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =       17,00
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1       15,25
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}       4,0/7  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1       10,75
03: Millennium The King 20mhz                4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1       10,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}        3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1       11,25
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}         3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =        9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}    2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1        6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}             1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·        4,00
09: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}              0,0/0                  ·      0,00
09: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                    ·    0,00

28 Partien von 90 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
So we have the following programmers represented:

Marty Hirsch
Mark Uniacke
Dave Kittinger
Johan de Koning
Frans Morsch
Ed Schröder
Richard Lang
Dan + Kathe Spracklen
Althoff / Georgopoulos / Kervinck
Boris von Loesch / Fabian Letouzey

DSChess i by chance found a few days ago when i searched the internet.
Boris von Loesch adapted Fabians Fruit engine for the Nintendo DS console family.

Therefore i took out my old Nintendo DSi that had so far very lousy chess engines, and put
the homebrew DSChess on it.

https://www.vonloesch.de/dschess.html

if you are interested in images of the last 2 machines, i mirror the games in the german computerchess forum schachcomputer.info:
https://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/s ... 921&page=4
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The tournament has been enhanced with new entries:

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01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,00
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               15,25
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,0/7  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1               10,75
03: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               10,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               11,25
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =                9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·                4,00
09: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                  ·              0,00
09: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,0/0                    ·            0,00
09: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
09: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
09: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                            ·    0,00

28 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
this increases the list of programmers to:

Marty Hirsch
Mark Uniacke
Dave Kittinger
Johan de Koning
Frans Morsch
Ed Schröder
Richard Lang
Dan + Kathe Spracklen
Althoff / Georgopoulos / Kervinck
Boris von Loesch / Fabian Letouzey
Julio Kaplan
Chrilly Donninger
Steen Suurballe
Christophe Theron

First game today is Novag Star Diamond versus Chess Tiger 11.2.
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the game was a draw.

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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,50
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               15,50
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             11,00
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               11,25
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               11,50
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =                9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·                4,00
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,0/0                    ·            0,00
10: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
10: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
10: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
10: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                            ·    0,00

29 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
the next game is between Saitek Sparc against DSChess on Nintendo DSi.
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The game Sparc vs. DSChess ended in a draw.


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   Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,75
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               16,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             11,50
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               11,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               12,00
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =               10,00
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                7,25
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·   =            4,25
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =   ·            0,75
11: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
11: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
11: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
11: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                            ·    0,00

30 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
the next game is between mephisto London and CT800 in a dedicated chess computer box like Mephisto 1-3 once was.
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and the game was won by Mephisto London 68000:

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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = = 1 =               18,25
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = 1 = 1               17,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             12,50
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = 1 = 1               12,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · = 0 1               12,50
06: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      3,5/8  = 0 0 0 = · = 1           1    7,25
07: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 = · =               10,50
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 0 0 = ·   =            4,25
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =   ·            0,75
11: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
11: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
11: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
11: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/1            0               ·    0,00

31 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
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Code: Select all

    Motor                                      Punkte HiMcNoMiMeMeMeSaNiChDSCTGaSa    S-B
01: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  6,0/8  · = = 1 = = 1 1           1   17,50
02: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · 1 1 1 = = =               19,75
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  = 0 · 0 1 = 1 1   =           14,00
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/8  0 0 1 · = = 1 1 0             13,25
05: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           4,0/8  = 0 0 = · 1 = =         1     11,00
06: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = 0 · = 1               13,00
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      3,5/8  0 = 0 0 = = · 1       1        7,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  0 = 0 0 = 0 0 ·     =          4,75
09: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       1,0/1        1         ·              4,00
10: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =             ·            2,25
11: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =     ·          0,75
12: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/1              0         ·        0,00
12: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/1          0               ·      0,00
12: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/1  0                         ·    0,00

34 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
next game is Corona D+ vs. Mchess 8.1.
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for a long time it looked good for saitek D+ with the heavy overclocking.
then it changed into drawish situation and finally mchess took over the game.



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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaNiChDSCTGaSa    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  6,0/8  · = 1 1 1 = = =           1   19,75
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  6,0/8  = · = 1 = = 1 1           1   18,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 1 = 1 1   =           14,00
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/8  0 0 1 · = = 1 1 0             13,25
05: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           4,0/8  0 = 0 = · 1 = =         1     11,00
06: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = 0 · = 1               13,50
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      3,5/8  = 0 0 0 = = · 1       1        8,25
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 = 0 0 ·     =          5,25
09: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       1,0/1        1         ·              4,00
10: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =             ·            2,25
11: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =     ·          0,75
12: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/1              0         ·        0,00
12: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/1          0               ·      0,00
12: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/2  0 0                       ·    0,00

35 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
the next game is between ct800 vs. Mephisto Magellan.
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The game with CT800 had the famous Knight fianchetto.
But the more moves were played the better the situation came for CT800.
In the end Magellan had nothing to defend with.


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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaNiCTChDSGaSa    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  6,0/8  · = 1 1 1 = = =           1   19,75
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  6,0/8  = · = 1 = = 1 1           1   18,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 1 = 1 1     =         14,00
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/8  0 0 1 · = = 1 1 0             13,25
05: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           4,0/8  0 = 0 = · 1 = =         1     11,00
06: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/8  = = = = 0 · = 1   0           13,50
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      3,5/8  = 0 0 0 = = · 1   1            9,25
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 = 0 0 ·       =        5,25
09: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       1,0/1        1         ·              4,00
10: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                1,0/2            1 0     ·            3,50
11: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =               ·          2,25
12: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =       ·        0,75
13: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/1          0               ·      0,00
13: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/2  0 0                       ·    0,00

36 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
next game is Nintendo vs. Magellan.
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Good old times.

I have fond memories of engines like M-Chess.
And the very classy Mephisto computers in tournament board size.
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We had the great opportunity to live in an age where computerchess begins from 1k engines to 4k engines to better and better engines. Until today.
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