From Russia With Love........

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:As a matter of fact,if the real author of SmarThink had taken a look at the source code of Strelka,we might accept some dose of accurance bearing in mind that he's a professional and knowing what he's talking about 8-)
If he did, the things I want to know are

1) Did he get an exe that is same size?
2) Does it play the same way?
3) Why did the programmer chose version number that sounded so funky?
4) Is Yuri Osupov real, or a figment of my own imagination?
5) Why isnt he talking?
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I maybe speculate trying to answer your 5th question:
Because he doesn't speak english,a language barrier in other words which by the way I feel it over my back when I must kick someone's ass in the german's forums for example,but most of all I feel it in the chineese forums :P

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Thomas Mayer wrote:Can you explain me then how he could know ? I mean, does he have the Rybka source code to make such a comparisson ? I'm just wondering... :)

Greets, Thomas

P.S.: This is really gettin' a big joke... ;)
How do we know he did not just send the disassembled and slightly modified Rybka source to Markoff?
Why are only Russian programmers involved in this?
How do we know that he really sent it to the real Markoff?
Why did an anonymous Russian programmer under the 'name'
'Natascha Strelka' maintain he/she had decompiled Rybka before 'Strelka'
funnily was released under the name 'Yuri Osipov'?
Who can prove 'Yuri Osipov' exists at all(as the person who 'released'
Strelka)?

IMHO this all gets ridiculous...
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GS wrote:Why did an anonymous Russian programmer under the 'name'
'Natascha Strelka' maintain he/she had decompiled Rybka before 'Strelka'
funnily was released under the name 'Yuri Osipov'?
The person who claimed he decompiled Rybka published his posts under nickname "Rybkin", not "Natasha Strelka".
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Sergei Markov said in KasparovChess forum that sources are written in C. He compiled these sources and engine ran normally, playing in the same strentgh as Strelka.
S.Markov also said that in his view Yuri Osipov deserves respect concerning his achievement.
For your information today Sergei Markov had a personal meeting with Yuri Osipov hosted by S.Kudriavcev (sdchess.ru).

PS:
I am not a programmer but some programmers (like Sergei Nefedov and Igor Korshunov) said in KasparovChess forum that this is impossible job to translate disassembled code to clean C.
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take it easy :)
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in the same forum Sergei Markov said that he used (before the meeting with the author of Strelka Y.Osipov) his own (?) method for clone-detecting and results are that Strelka is not so close to Rybka as close a clone should be.
take it easy :)
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Zdravei Geno,
Blagodarja za dostavenata polezna informatsija,badi zhiv i zdrav :D
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Blagodarq Doctore, staraem se :)
Thanks Doc we're trying to make our best you know :)
take it easy :)
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Deep in my heart and soul I do hope to be an original work 8-)
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photo from meeting Markov-Osipov:

http://sdchess.ru/news.htm

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but I cant say who is who there :-)
take it easy :)