FIDE World Chess Championship thread

[Daniel Shawul]

After quickly analyzing game 6 I get the impression that the game was always within the draw range until Anand blundered with 60.Ra4?. 60.b4! for instance seems to draw. The key concept may be that Ra4 loses a tempo compared to b4.

I am not Dr. Deeb but what you described here is considered thee blunder in the chessbase articles too. http://en.chessbase.com/post/chennai-g6 ... d-straight . Susan and other commentators missed many of Carlsen's ideas during the live games and I learned human chess is very much different from computer chess. Opponent modeling plays a significant role in human chess and this is how Carlsen got his last two wins. It was much more fun trying to figure out what he is conjuring for Anand, than looking at a 0.0 score of engines. Also stockfish was all over the place with its score during the second half of the game.

[S.Taylor]

Anand must stear his game toward opening systems which will make Carlsen feel uncomfortable to say the least....
Dr.D

Are you suggesting Anand could have easily done useful things like that and didn't do it?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Anand must stear his game toward opening systems which will make Carlsen feel uncomfortable to say the least....
Dr.D

Are you suggesting Anand could have easily done useful things like that and didn't do it?

No,I am saying that now he must find a recue plan....
Dr.D

[S.Taylor]

Could it be that Carlsen has discovered some things about R&P endings which others don't yet know, and that's how on atleast 2 occasions he managed to get a position in which Anand admitted later that he thought something different, but that in fact Carlsen had directed the game into exactly that type of ending with certain features and positionings to it?

[actually, i HAVE seen big books all about r and p endings which seem to have huge amounts of content, and maybe he studied such a book in depth and grasped the ideas well, and added to it, and anand hasn't and never really needed so much knowledge].

[S.Taylor]

Anand must stear his game toward opening systems which will make Carlsen feel uncomfortable to say the least....
Dr.D

Are you suggesting Anand could have easily done useful things like that and didn't do it?

No,I am saying that now he must find a recue plan....
Dr.D

So why shouldn't he have done it before? risky?

And are you saying there ARE there such positions that can be steered into to make calsen feel uncomfortable "to say the least"?

[M ANSARI]

At times I think Anand just plays too impulsively. You really can't do that against Carlsen who will try to milk a mouse if he can get a couple of drops out of a position. Anand just seems to get annoyed that a drawn position is being played out and seems uncomfortable that he has to show that the game is drawn. On the other hand Carlsen just loves these type of positions where he can continuously create puzzles than have one only move to draw. You can only dodge so many bullets.

By the way I found it quite funny that Suzy Polgar as well as many other GM's did not seem to know what was going on in the seemingly innocuous endgame. It is only when they got a report that engines saw white as losing that they started to realize there was a problem for white. Unfortunately for Anand, he does not have that luxury, and while b4! might have drawn, I really doubt it was easily playable by a human and Anand probably thought the position was already lost.

[Kyodai]

Magnus is a warrior and fully prepared for battle....

[Laskos]

I am getting 97%/3% too, and it's very normal, as we use very similar parameters.

The betters one hour after the win went nutty today, with almost 10% their margin, way too much to place bets. With these close to 100% odds it's hard to bet for a gain. Now I only see one house has 1/25 for Carlsen, which by our simulations should be 1/35. This house seems to have 94%/6%, with 2% to the house, a possibility to bet on Carlsen.

This house reduced odds for Carlsen from 1/25 to 1/33, already very close to our 1/35 simulations. Too late to bet on Carlsen by now, but very intriguing that it's the betters who approach our simulations, and not the other way around. Our black art seems to work

[S.Taylor]

At times I think Anand just plays too impulsively. You really can't do that against Carlsen who will try to milk a mouse if he can get a couple of drops out of a position. Anand just seems to get annoyed that a drawn position is being played out and seems uncomfortable that he has to show that the game is drawn. On the other hand Carlsen just loves these type of positions where he can continuously create puzzles than have one only move to draw. You can only dodge so many bullets.

By the way I found it quite funny that Suzy Polgar as well as many other GM's did not seem to know what was going on in the seemingly innocuous endgame. It is only when they got a report that engines saw white as losing that they started to realize there was a problem for white. Unfortunately for Anand, he does not have that luxury, and while b4! might have drawn, I really doubt it was easily playable by a human and Anand probably thought the position was already lost.

If it was not easily playable by a human so how come the commentator on chessbomb (a GM?) said rh4 is a clear error and b4 was the only move? Was he cheating by following the computer analysis as loyally as a dog?
If so, anyone can do that, it doesn't need a GM

[IGarcia]

At times I think Anand just plays too impulsively. You really can't do that against Carlsen who will try to milk a mouse if he can get a couple of drops out of a position. Anand just seems to get annoyed that a drawn position is being played out and seems uncomfortable that he has to show that the game is drawn. On the other hand Carlsen just loves these type of positions where he can continuously create puzzles than have one only move to draw. You can only dodge so many bullets.

By the way I found it quite funny that Suzy Polgar as well as many other GM's did not seem to know what was going on in the seemingly innocuous endgame. It is only when they got a report that engines saw white as losing that they started to realize there was a problem for white. Unfortunately for Anand, he does not have that luxury, and while b4! might have drawn, I really doubt it was easily playable by a human and Anand probably thought the position was already lost.

If it was not easily playable by a human so how come the commentator on chessbomb (a GM?) said rh4 is a clear error and b4 was the only move? Was he cheating by following the computer analysis as loyally as a dog?
If so, anyone can do that, it doesn't need a GM

Is hard for comentators to deep concentrate and talk, play variations, interact to camera and asistants. Its not the same to play concentrated.

Still, Susan Polgar very fast correctly said the best move for Carlsen was Rg6, then Anand played Ra4 and she didn't realized it was a blunder. The idea was to later advance white pawns and use the the rook to check from side... and probably was also Anand idea.

This is a practical idea, but imprecise because will not work, as Carlsen (and computers) showed. The phrase " Carlsen just loves these type of positions where he can continuously create puzzles than have one only move to draw. You can only dodge so many bullets. " is probably the best definition of Magnus I ever read. Is incredibly how he play in that way.