Obsidian (DEV)

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Chacal X
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

Post by Chacal X »

Good morning,
My opinion is that Obsidian has evolved a lot in a short time, and if we are still in doubt about its performance, I believe that if it continues to evolve we will soon be able to say for sure that it is the best.
Note: Artemis, DarkSeid and Omega were not tested, as they are engines that are evolving at the same pace.
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

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Uri Blass wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:56 pm
Bourbaki wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:03 am Obsidian dev-16.14 est EXTREMEMENT fort !

01: Obsidian dev-16.14 SE 36,5/50 ·· 1= == =1 =1 1= =1 == =1 == =1 1= 1= =1 =1 1= 1= 1= 1= 1= 11 =1 =1 =1 =1 1= 887,50
02: Stockfish 17.1 64 ja 32,5/50 0= ·· 1= == == =1 =1 0= 1= 1= == =1 1= 1= =1 == =1 =1 1= 1= 10 1= 1= =1 =1 == 787,00
03: Stockfish dev-20250702-ce73441f 32,0/50 == 0= ·· 10 10 == == =1 01 1= 1= =1 1= 1= 1= 1= 1= =1 =1 == =1 1= =1 =0 11 == 773,75
04: Integral v7 64 ja 31,0/50 =0 == 01 ·· == 10 =0 1= == 1= 1= == == =1 1= 1= =1 =1 11 =1 01 == =1 =1 == =1 744,25
05: Alexandria 8.0.0 64 ja 29,0/50 =0 == 01 == ·· == == 1= == 10 10 01 == 1= 1= 01 == 1= == == 11 1= == =1 01 1= 701,50
06: PlentyChess 6.0.5 64 ja 29,0/50 0= =0 == 01 == ·· == =0 1= == == 10 =1 =1 =1 == == == 1= 1= == =1 1= 1= 1= =1 692,25
07: Berserk 20250606 64 ja 28,5/50 =0 =0 == =1 == == ·· =0 0= 0= == 1= =1 =1 == == 1= == == 1= 1= =1 == =1 1= 11 679,00
08: Caissa 1.22.1 28,0/50 == 1= =0 0= 0= =1 =1 ·· 10 == =0 =1 == == 1= == =1 =1 == =1 == == == 1= =1 == 683,50
09: RubiChess 20250606 64 ja 27,0/50 =0 0= 10 == == 0= 1= 01 ·· =0 == =0 01 1= == == =1 =1 =1 == =1 1= == =1 == 1= 646,75
10: Stormphrax 7.0.0 64 ja 26,5/50 == 0= 0= 0= 01 == 1= == =1 ·· == 1= == 0= =1 =0 =1 1= == =1 == =0 =1 == == 1= 646,25
11: Viridithas 17.0.0 26,5/50 =0 == 0= 0= 01 == == =1 == == ·· 10 =0 0= == =1 10 =1 == == 1= == 11 =1 == 1= 637,00
12: Starzix 6.1 64 ja 24,5/50 0= =0 =0 == 10 01 0= =0 =1 0= 01 ·· =0 == == == == == == 1= == =1 =1 =1 1= == 586,00
13: K-Dragon 3.1 24,0/50 0= 0= 0= == == =0 =0 == 10 == =1 =1 ·· =0 =0 11 == 10 == 1= =0 == 1= == 01 == 582,00
14: Clover 8.1 64 ja 23,0/50 =0 0= 0= =0 0= =0 =0 == 0= 1= 1= == =1 ·· == == == == == 0= == == =1 01 1= == 552,50
15: Lizard 11.2 23,0/50 =0 =0 0= 0= 0= =0 == 0= == =0 == == =1 == ·· 10 10 == 1= =1 =0 == == =1 1= 01 547,25
16: Fat Fritz 2 22,5/50 0= == 0= 0= 10 == == == == =1 =0 == 00 == 01 ·· =1 == 00 == == 1= =0 == 01 1= 553,25
17: Titan 1.1.0 64 ja 21,5/50 0= =0 0= =0 == == 0= =0 =0 =0 01 == == == 01 =0 ·· 10 == == 11 == == 10 1= 0= 517,50
18: Uralochka 3.42 dev.12 64 ja 21,5/50 0= =0 =0 =0 0= == == =0 =0 0= =0 == 01 == == == 01 ·· == == =1 == == == == =1 514,25
19: Booot 7.4 21,0/50 0= 0= =0 00 == 0= == == =0 == == == == == 0= 11 == == ·· == == == 10 == 00 == 510,50
20: Quanticade Orion 2.0 64 ja 21,0/50 0= 0= == =0 == 0= 0= =0 == =0 == 0= 0= 1= =0 == == == == ·· 01 1= 0= 10 10 =1 508,50
21: Lc0 0.31.0-dag-4167c1e-BT4-6147500-it332 21,0/50 00 01 =0 10 00 == 0= == =0 == 0= == =1 == =1 == 00 =0 == 10 ·· 11 =0 1= 10 0= 508,25
22: Seer 2.8.0 Dev.9d8b602 64 ja 20,5/50 =0 0= 0= == 0= =0 =0 == 0= =1 == =0 == == == 0= == == == 0= 00 ·· 1= 10 =1 10 500,75
23: Horsie 1.1.0 64 ja 20,5/50 =0 0= =0 =0 == 0= == == == =0 00 =0 0= =0 == =1 == == 01 1= =1 0= ·· =0 == =1 495,25
24: Velvet 8.1.1 64 ja 20,0/50 =0 =0 =1 =0 =0 0= =0 0= =0 == =0 =0 == 10 =0 == 01 == == 01 0= 01 =1 ·· == == 488,00
25: Lc0-v0.31.2-T3-distill-swa-2767500 20,0/50 =0 =0 00 == 10 0= 0= =0 == == == 0= 10 0= 0= 10 0= == 11 01 01 =0 == == ·· == 485,50
26: Devre 6.39 dev.e4d35c6 ja 19,5/50 0= == == =0 0= =0 00 == 0= 0= 0= == == == 10 0= 1= =0 == =0 1= 01 =0 == == ·· 477,75

650 parties jouées / Tournoi fini
Niveau: Blitz 5/3

chess programs : 8 coeurs ; 1024 hashtables

Position de départ chargée à partir d'un fichier PGN au hasard - TCEC Superfinals Seasons 1 à 27
PGN jusqu'au coup : 7 - Répéter position avec couleurs inversées.
What is correct?
1)Obsidian 16.14 is better than Stockfish
2)Obsidian 16.14 is better than Stockfish only in beating weaker opponents.
3)Both 1 and 2 are wrong and result is misleading because there is a starticial error and the test did not have enough games.
Il n'y a pas d'erreur : Obsidian a été meilleur que stockfish en blitz 5/3, qui est à mon avis la meilleure cadence pour des programmes d'echecs avec 1/1.

il s'agit des meilleures versions des programmes d'échecs gratuits disponibles à cette heure.
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

Post by Uri Blass »

Bourbaki wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:19 pm
Uri Blass wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:56 pm
Bourbaki wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:03 am Obsidian dev-16.14 est EXTREMEMENT fort !

01: Obsidian dev-16.14 SE 36,5/50 ·· 1= == =1 =1 1= =1 == =1 == =1 1= 1= =1 =1 1= 1= 1= 1= 1= 11 =1 =1 =1 =1 1= 887,50
02: Stockfish 17.1 64 ja 32,5/50 0= ·· 1= == == =1 =1 0= 1= 1= == =1 1= 1= =1 == =1 =1 1= 1= 10 1= 1= =1 =1 == 787,00
03: Stockfish dev-20250702-ce73441f 32,0/50 == 0= ·· 10 10 == == =1 01 1= 1= =1 1= 1= 1= 1= 1= =1 =1 == =1 1= =1 =0 11 == 773,75
04: Integral v7 64 ja 31,0/50 =0 == 01 ·· == 10 =0 1= == 1= 1= == == =1 1= 1= =1 =1 11 =1 01 == =1 =1 == =1 744,25
05: Alexandria 8.0.0 64 ja 29,0/50 =0 == 01 == ·· == == 1= == 10 10 01 == 1= 1= 01 == 1= == == 11 1= == =1 01 1= 701,50
06: PlentyChess 6.0.5 64 ja 29,0/50 0= =0 == 01 == ·· == =0 1= == == 10 =1 =1 =1 == == == 1= 1= == =1 1= 1= 1= =1 692,25
07: Berserk 20250606 64 ja 28,5/50 =0 =0 == =1 == == ·· =0 0= 0= == 1= =1 =1 == == 1= == == 1= 1= =1 == =1 1= 11 679,00
08: Caissa 1.22.1 28,0/50 == 1= =0 0= 0= =1 =1 ·· 10 == =0 =1 == == 1= == =1 =1 == =1 == == == 1= =1 == 683,50
09: RubiChess 20250606 64 ja 27,0/50 =0 0= 10 == == 0= 1= 01 ·· =0 == =0 01 1= == == =1 =1 =1 == =1 1= == =1 == 1= 646,75
10: Stormphrax 7.0.0 64 ja 26,5/50 == 0= 0= 0= 01 == 1= == =1 ·· == 1= == 0= =1 =0 =1 1= == =1 == =0 =1 == == 1= 646,25
11: Viridithas 17.0.0 26,5/50 =0 == 0= 0= 01 == == =1 == == ·· 10 =0 0= == =1 10 =1 == == 1= == 11 =1 == 1= 637,00
12: Starzix 6.1 64 ja 24,5/50 0= =0 =0 == 10 01 0= =0 =1 0= 01 ·· =0 == == == == == == 1= == =1 =1 =1 1= == 586,00
13: K-Dragon 3.1 24,0/50 0= 0= 0= == == =0 =0 == 10 == =1 =1 ·· =0 =0 11 == 10 == 1= =0 == 1= == 01 == 582,00
14: Clover 8.1 64 ja 23,0/50 =0 0= 0= =0 0= =0 =0 == 0= 1= 1= == =1 ·· == == == == == 0= == == =1 01 1= == 552,50
15: Lizard 11.2 23,0/50 =0 =0 0= 0= 0= =0 == 0= == =0 == == =1 == ·· 10 10 == 1= =1 =0 == == =1 1= 01 547,25
16: Fat Fritz 2 22,5/50 0= == 0= 0= 10 == == == == =1 =0 == 00 == 01 ·· =1 == 00 == == 1= =0 == 01 1= 553,25
17: Titan 1.1.0 64 ja 21,5/50 0= =0 0= =0 == == 0= =0 =0 =0 01 == == == 01 =0 ·· 10 == == 11 == == 10 1= 0= 517,50
18: Uralochka 3.42 dev.12 64 ja 21,5/50 0= =0 =0 =0 0= == == =0 =0 0= =0 == 01 == == == 01 ·· == == =1 == == == == =1 514,25
19: Booot 7.4 21,0/50 0= 0= =0 00 == 0= == == =0 == == == == == 0= 11 == == ·· == == == 10 == 00 == 510,50
20: Quanticade Orion 2.0 64 ja 21,0/50 0= 0= == =0 == 0= 0= =0 == =0 == 0= 0= 1= =0 == == == == ·· 01 1= 0= 10 10 =1 508,50
21: Lc0 0.31.0-dag-4167c1e-BT4-6147500-it332 21,0/50 00 01 =0 10 00 == 0= == =0 == 0= == =1 == =1 == 00 =0 == 10 ·· 11 =0 1= 10 0= 508,25
22: Seer 2.8.0 Dev.9d8b602 64 ja 20,5/50 =0 0= 0= == 0= =0 =0 == 0= =1 == =0 == == == 0= == == == 0= 00 ·· 1= 10 =1 10 500,75
23: Horsie 1.1.0 64 ja 20,5/50 =0 0= =0 =0 == 0= == == == =0 00 =0 0= =0 == =1 == == 01 1= =1 0= ·· =0 == =1 495,25
24: Velvet 8.1.1 64 ja 20,0/50 =0 =0 =1 =0 =0 0= =0 0= =0 == =0 =0 == 10 =0 == 01 == == 01 0= 01 =1 ·· == == 488,00
25: Lc0-v0.31.2-T3-distill-swa-2767500 20,0/50 =0 =0 00 == 10 0= 0= =0 == == == 0= 10 0= 0= 10 0= == 11 01 01 =0 == == ·· == 485,50
26: Devre 6.39 dev.e4d35c6 ja 19,5/50 0= == == =0 0= =0 00 == 0= 0= 0= == == == 10 0= 1= =0 == =0 1= 01 =0 == == ·· 477,75

650 parties jouées / Tournoi fini
Niveau: Blitz 5/3

chess programs : 8 coeurs ; 1024 hashtables

Position de départ chargée à partir d'un fichier PGN au hasard - TCEC Superfinals Seasons 1 à 27
PGN jusqu'au coup : 7 - Répéter position avec couleurs inversées.
What is correct?
1)Obsidian 16.14 is better than Stockfish
2)Obsidian 16.14 is better than Stockfish only in beating weaker opponents.
3)Both 1 and 2 are wrong and result is misleading because there is a starticial error and the test did not have enough games.
Il n'y a pas d'erreur : Obsidian a été meilleur que stockfish en blitz 5/3, qui est à mon avis la meilleure cadence pour des programmes d'echecs avec 1/1.

il s'agit des meilleures versions des programmes d'échecs gratuits disponibles à cette heure.
translation to english based on searching in google for translation:

"There's no mistake: Obsidian outperformed Stockfish in 5/3 blitz, which is, in my opinion, the best time frame for 1/1 chess programs.

These are the best versions of the free chess programs currently available".
Chacal X
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

Post by Chacal X »

Hi Chris,
no new Obsidian updates?
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

Post by Chris Formula »

no new update from Gabe unfortunately. 😊 we’ll keep an eye for new updates.

Chris
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Re: Obsidian (DEV)

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:!: :D