Houdini - Cluster Rybka encounter....

[S.Taylor]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

[S.Taylor]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

So _I_ want to do be totally absorbed in many other things LONG before i won't still be alive, so i have to be satisfied asap with what there is.
When i got my first thing, Turbo King, that was strong, but nowhere near propper chess, it was just hard for me to beat, then.

Much further on, Rybka 3? Not quite! Ithought i needed something well above that, and its weaknesses, then it would be enough for me.

Rybka 4 was too little and too late! AND i was a little upset too.

But with 4.1 it proved a hard nut to crack.

Houdini 1.5a was the first time the play looked flowery enough AND it was strong enough chess to overtake Rybka 4.1 too.

So now we have Houdini 3 plus i have my own good computer, so surely it's the best i'll see for a long time no?

Even Rybka is 4.1 is great, but Houdini seems to have a different feel which i feel can play what top world champions would have played and better (unless the world champions were wrong).

But if you can tell me specifically what is still a nuisance in its missunderstandings of so many positions, then i would hang on a little longer, before telling myself that there is not something better coming out, just around the corner, which MIGHT be more satisfying.

CAN you?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

So _I_ want to do be totally absorbed in many other things LONG before i won't still be alive, so i have to be satisfied asap with what there is.
When i got my first thing, Turbo King, that was strong, but nowhere near propper chess, it was just hard for me to beat, then.

Much further on, Rybka 3? Not quite! Ithought i needed something well above that, and its weaknesses, then it would be enough for me.

Rybka 4 was too little and too late! AND i was a little upset too.

But with 4.1 it proved a hard nut to crack.

Houdini 1.5a was the first time the play looked flowery enough AND it was strong enough chess to overtake Rybka 4.1 too.

So now we have Houdini 3 plus i have my own good computer, so surely it's the best i'll see for a long time no?

Even Rybka is 4.1 is great, but Houdini seems to have a different feel which i feel can play what top world champions would have played and better (unless the world champions were wrong).

But if you can tell me specifically what is still a nuisance in its missunderstandings of so many positions, then i would hang on a little longer, before telling myself that there is not something better coming out, just around the corner, which MIGHT be more satisfying.

CAN you?

I will when I purchase Houdini 3 ChessBase

Just give me some time regards,
Dr.D

[S.Taylor]

So chess base with Houdini inside will give the best control of the chess program, that makes it possible to analyse with it at will and change parametres at will?

The Hiarcs explorer seems terrible to me. When it says the game is lost, i can't even do anything more, but just to get rid of it as if it were a virus to be deleted or quaranteened.

[IGarcia]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

So _I_ want to do be totally absorbed in many other things LONG before i won't still be alive, so i have to be satisfied asap with what there is.
When i got my first thing, Turbo King, that was strong, but nowhere near propper chess, it was just hard for me to beat, then.

Much further on, Rybka 3? Not quite! Ithought i needed something well above that, and its weaknesses, then it would be enough for me.

Rybka 4 was too little and too late! AND i was a little upset too.

But with 4.1 it proved a hard nut to crack.

Houdini 1.5a was the first time the play looked flowery enough AND it was strong enough chess to overtake Rybka 4.1 too.

So now we have Houdini 3 plus i have my own good computer, so surely it's the best i'll see for a long time no?

Even Rybka is 4.1 is great, but Houdini seems to have a different feel which i feel can play what top world champions would have played and better (unless the world champions were wrong).

But if you can tell me specifically what is still a nuisance in its missunderstandings of so many positions, then i would hang on a little longer, before telling myself that there is not something better coming out, just around the corner, which MIGHT be more satisfying.

CAN you?

I will when I purchase Houdini 3 ChessBase

Just give me some time regards,
Dr.D

We already had engines that would play top GM (2700+) and with last wave of engines you are getting the "more satisfaction" speaking about. And for sure there will be more waves of satisfaction in future.

Igna.

[S.Taylor]

When is the next game? Cluster Rybka vs Houdini?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

So _I_ want to do be totally absorbed in many other things LONG before i won't still be alive, so i have to be satisfied asap with what there is.
When i got my first thing, Turbo King, that was strong, but nowhere near propper chess, it was just hard for me to beat, then.

Much further on, Rybka 3? Not quite! Ithought i needed something well above that, and its weaknesses, then it would be enough for me.

Rybka 4 was too little and too late! AND i was a little upset too.

But with 4.1 it proved a hard nut to crack.

Houdini 1.5a was the first time the play looked flowery enough AND it was strong enough chess to overtake Rybka 4.1 too.

So now we have Houdini 3 plus i have my own good computer, so surely it's the best i'll see for a long time no?

Even Rybka is 4.1 is great, but Houdini seems to have a different feel which i feel can play what top world champions would have played and better (unless the world champions were wrong).

But if you can tell me specifically what is still a nuisance in its missunderstandings of so many positions, then i would hang on a little longer, before telling myself that there is not something better coming out, just around the corner, which MIGHT be more satisfying.

CAN you?

I will when I purchase Houdini 3 ChessBase

Just give me some time regards,
Dr.D

We already had engines that would play top GM (2700+) and with last wave of engines you are getting the "more satisfaction" speaking about. And for sure there will be more waves of satisfaction in future.

Igna.

Yes,the best is yet to come........
Dr.D

[S.Taylor]

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

It's just that Rybka is making horrible positional blunders and is getting squashed by Houdini.....

Something is wrong here,I don't know.....

Is it a bad special settings for the match

Is it a bad scaling and not getting the optimal communication with all the 64 processors that Rybka is using

Is it an experimental version of Rybka that is palying

Again,after watching the second game,I am pretty much convinced that Houdini is not that ingenius chess entity as much as there is definitely something wrong with cluster Rybka.......
Dr.D

Houdini is not that brilliant as many think.....

I think... some engines-programmers are a bit like the stars; some generate their own light while others reflect the brilliance they receive.

Wait and watch....

I've survived the Rybka era with all the serpants trying to defend it and biting anyone daring to say that there will come a day when it will fall down the hill and another chess engine will climb it to take the throne

I will survive Houdini's era as well regards,
Dr.D

What would you want a computer chess program to do better, after one has already dominated Rybka 4.1, and got better still?

One that does even better Shimon

Where is it going to end?

We won't be alive,that's for sure..........

So _I_ want to do be totally absorbed in many other things LONG before i won't still be alive, so i have to be satisfied asap with what there is.
When i got my first thing, Turbo King, that was strong, but nowhere near propper chess, it was just hard for me to beat, then.

Much further on, Rybka 3? Not quite! Ithought i needed something well above that, and its weaknesses, then it would be enough for me.

Rybka 4 was too little and too late! AND i was a little upset too.

But with 4.1 it proved a hard nut to crack.

Houdini 1.5a was the first time the play looked flowery enough AND it was strong enough chess to overtake Rybka 4.1 too.

So now we have Houdini 3 plus i have my own good computer, so surely it's the best i'll see for a long time no?

Even Rybka is 4.1 is great, but Houdini seems to have a different feel which i feel can play what top world champions would have played and better (unless the world champions were wrong).

But if you can tell me specifically what is still a nuisance in its missunderstandings of so many positions, then i would hang on a little longer, before telling myself that there is not something better coming out, just around the corner, which MIGHT be more satisfying.

CAN you?

I will when I purchase Houdini 3 ChessBase

Just give me some time regards,
Dr.D

We already had engines that would play top GM (2700+) and with last wave of engines you are getting the "more satisfaction" speaking about. And for sure there will be more waves of satisfaction in future.

Igna.

Yes,the best is yet to come........
Dr.D

How much more best?
Obviously, it won't go DOWN in elo. But how much better will chess look like? (from computers).
What do we need better than what we have now?
Can you describe? Do you have some dream as to how it might look?


An engine that can never draw, only win? And if it plays self, only white will ever win (or engine will blow up)? Or what?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

[quote="S.Taylor]

An engine that can never draw, only win? And if it plays self, only white will ever win (or engine will blow up)? Or what?[/quote]

I am not sure if it will always win,but if reach the point of a perfect playing chess entity,it should always draw itself........
Dr.D