List of Engines With Attractive Playing Style ;-)

[Ovyron]

So Rebel 12 comes with an interface other than Chesspartner??

No, I was referring to Chesspartner. I love how it communicates with UCI engines and Winboard engines flawlessly.

[Sylwy]

ProDeo is more strong but losted a lot of from the style of his little brother.

Ah! It's the first time I hear this, can you give an example? Being a Pro Deo fan and not noticing this change in style is worrying.

WOW !

Just a moment please ! You don't know the ancestors of Rebel 12 ? You don't heave the famous CD-ROM from January 2000 A J.CH. including REBEL-TIGER and REBEL 10 ?
What a tragedy ! ( )
The ancestors of ProDeo were famous chess engines ! Rebel 12 has hot-blooded ! ProDeo is only a naughty boy !

Regards & compunctions,( )

Silvian

[Tony Thomas]

So Rebel 12 comes with an interface other than Chesspartner??

No, I was referring to Chesspartner. I love how it communicates with UCI engines and Winboard engines flawlessly.

Arena does it much better.

[chrisw]

So, my favourite engines going by style regardless of its strength is

1. Chess Thinker or Chess System Tal

(My Favourite two engines with attractive attacking playing style)

2. Chess Tiger

(very anti-human, cunningly threatening, beware!)

3. Junior

(protect your king side from this engine, you wouldn't have a chance to see the endgame!)

4. Gandalf:

[...]

(Another attacker. This is pretty good one. though it doesn't alway go for an early attack in the middle game, but it is very agressive and has good understsanding of all strategies possible.
Never seen a unfathomable nonsense moves. Tactics is where its weakness lies.)

5. Spike (it's spike! who could resist, after all)

Honourable mention:

6. King of Kings (finest example of very computer like playing style)

7. Wchess At its own league it's pretty good at combinations.


I would like to know your list...

Thanks Swami,

I guess CSTal might feature in more style lists if it was available in UCI(?) - not actually sure what that would involve and UI stuff never was my field, but apparently some people would like it.

Chris

[swami]

Thanks Swami,

I guess CSTal might feature in more style lists if it was available in UCI(?) - not actually sure what that would involve and UI stuff never was my field, but apparently some people would like it.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I think making it UCI is easier as it is just an additional few lines of code but I'm not sure. Stefan explained the UCI protocol and Fruit open source has few lines of code as well, gives you something to learn.

[Ovyron]

No, I only have Rebel 12 and old Rebel Decade. But I remember playing games with Rebel 12, and then going Pro Deo, and I liked Pro Deo 1.0 better (same style, stronger engine.) Next versions of Pro Deo got better and better, so this "Pro Deo got worse style wise" seems a matter of opinion.

[Ovyron]

Arena does it much better.

I tried Arena and felt it was bloated. With ChessPartner is just ZOOM BAM! Engine installed! Then Wheem! WOO! Tournament has started, tournament has finished!

You don't even need to run the GUI because the Engine Research Tool in where you run the tourney and matches is a separate program, and is a very simplistic but powerful one, all I need. I am a Rybka GUI Beta tester and I still use ChessPartner for running tourneys (Not because Rybka GUI is bad, but because of ERT's simplicity.)

I only used ERT because it allowed me to use ProDeo personalities as Winboard engine, but now that I test newer engines, I deem it still the best option.

[chrisw]

Thanks Swami,

I guess CSTal might feature in more style lists if it was available in UCI(?) - not actually sure what that would involve and UI stuff never was my field, but apparently some people would like it.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I think making it UCI is easier as it is just an additional few lines of code but I'm not sure. Stefan explained the UCI protocol and Fruit open source has few lines of code as well, gives you something to learn.

I would guess it would be quite difficult for CSTal. I didn't have anything to do with the GUI or the disc handling or the internet handling or the database handling, but I do know that the whole program was enormous, everything was embedded within everything else and the whole structure hopelessly interdependent. Nothing was written in any way or style similar to the relatively text based engine to UI that is now the norm.

A minor change by the GUI programmer to something in the GUI would, according to Thorsten, change the entire strength and play style of the engine. Whether this is true or not, I don't know, but I would wager that no future variant of CSTal would satisfy Thorsten, he'll always claim v95.6 or something was best.

Chris

[Ovyron]

I think making it UCI is easier as it is just an additional few lines of code

I like UCI because it lets you use additional features like Multi-PV and move ignoring

Another engine with interesting playing style is always welcome

[Albert Silver]

Thanks Swami,

I guess CSTal might feature in more style lists if it was available in UCI(?) - not actually sure what that would involve and UI stuff never was my field, but apparently some people would like it.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I think making it UCI is easier as it is just an additional few lines of code but I'm not sure. Stefan explained the UCI protocol and Fruit open source has few lines of code as well, gives you something to learn.

I would guess it would be quite difficult for CSTal. I didn't have anything to do with the GUI or the disc handling or the internet handling or the database handling, but I do know that the whole program was enormous, everything was embedded within everything else and the whole structure hopelessly interdependent. Nothing was written in any way or style similar to the relatively text based engine to UI that is now the norm.

A minor change by the GUI programmer to something in the GUI would, according to Thorsten, change the entire strength and play style of the engine. Whether this is true or not, I don't know, but I would wager that no future variant of CSTal would satisfy Thorsten, he'll always claim v95.6 or something was best.

Chris

That's incredibly odd. Why would changing some protocol elements in the UI dialogue affect the engine strength? Not just to CSTal, but even in theory?