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mclane wrote:
i wonder how ossi weiner or frederic friedel would make in singing nice folk-songs :-)
:P
i think it would not be a very pretty sight

but it is not only the strength that interests me in chess computers
if it was only strength i would have not many computers

by way of example..this schachcomputer plays very weak chess but i would keep this computer over even my strongest in the collection:

the Fidelity Grandmaster Voice
released only in Germany and it contains a weak 1350 Elo program of the Advanced Voice Chess Challenger(the first computer to contain the voice feature)

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you can defeat the computer without even getting out of bed...
but its extremely rare and worth millions of dollars to collectors

Hoarse Throat Regards
Steve
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i remember that i played it in a shop in dortmund when i was a kid.
if i would have known that it is so much worth i would not have bought a car but instead this little wooden computer :-)
Steve B

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i also pit the Citrine against one of the other Saitek Mid sized wooden boards.. the Stratos:

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There are some minor differences between Stratos and the other similar mid-sized wooden board the Corona..


in addition to the auto sensory/Pressure sensory difference

an amusing one is the manner in which the Stratos indicates Nodes per second

the Corona shows the node count in the normal numerical display of xxxx

while the Stratos does so in Exponential notation
so for example a node count of 2000 appears in the display as 10^3 ... 2
or 50000 as 10^4....5
the only computer i can think of that displays nodes this way

i gave the Citrine the white pieces for this game against the Stratos

in the game the Citrine left book at move 12

[White "Novag Citrine"]
[Black "Saitek Stratos"]
[Time Control "Game 30Min"]


1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3
d6 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8


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the Citrine is now out of book with a reasonable PV of +.16 .Stratos views the position as -.01



12.a4 Qd7 13.Ng5 d5 14.exd5 Na5
15.dxe5 Nxb3 16.Qxb3 h6 17.Ngf3 Nxd5 18.axb5 axb5 19.Rxa8 Rxa8 20.c4 Nb4
21.e6 fxe6 22.cxb5 Bd5 23.Qc3 Bd6 24.Nd4 Na2 25.Qe3 e5 26.Nc6 Bxc6
27.bxc6 Qxc6 28.Ne4 Nxc1 29.Rxc1 Qb5 30.Qd2 Kh8 31.b3 Qb6 32.Qc2 Qb4
33.Rd1 Ra3 34.Qc4 Qxb3 35.Qxb3 Rxb3 36.Nxd6 cxd6 37.Rxd6 Rb1+ 38.Kh2 Rb2
39.Kg3 Rb3+ 40.Kg4 Rb2 41.Kf3 Rb3+ 42.Ke4 Rb2 43.Ke3 Rb3+
44.Rd3


[d] 7k/6p1/7p/4p3/8/1r1RK2P/5PP1/8 w - - 0 44

the game is drawn ..interestingly the Stratos sets in for a long 2 minute think here possibly considering what an exchange of rooks would bring in ..
its PV shows +.63 but it elects to not exchange ...


44..Rb2 45.Rd7 Rb3+ 46.Ke4 Rb2 47.Kf3 Rb3+ 48.Ke2 Rb2+ 49.Ke1 Kh7 50.Re7 Rb5
51.Kd2 Kg6 52.Ra7 Rb1 53.Ke3 1/2-1/2

FINAL POSITION

[d]8/R5p1/6kp/4p3/8/4K2P/5PP1/1r6 w - - 0 53

DRAWN

both computers were showing PV's of less then .3
so i called it a day

Test Until We Drop Regards
Steve