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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Adam Hair wrote:This thread is for coverage and discussion of the upcoming World Chess Championship between the champion, Viswanathan Anand, and the challenger, Magnus Carlsen, which runs from November 9 to November 26 (not counting the possibility of tie break games). We the moderators are asking you the members to use this thread instead of creating new threads. This does not mean that threads can not be created for topics such as engine analysis of moves played during the match. But, we do wish to keep the general forum from being flooded with multiple threads concerning the match.

This thread remain at the top of the first page for the duration of the World Chess Championship.

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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Lion wrote:I do agree with you.

I cannot say that 27...a6 was winning but at least it was the best way to go to play for it.

During the game, Yasser and partner mentionned that move as probably the best and more importantly the simpler way to play for a win.

It is difficult for me to understand why Magnus didn't play the simpler move 27...a6.

Maybe he is too much of a Genius and lost himself.

That said, it was a great game and both players have played with lots of idea and resources a complicated game.
27... a6 was winning according to my engines on long time control. I put a recent Stockfish as black against Komodo 6, and black won rather uneventfully. I reversed the engines, and Komodo as black won even faster against Stockfish. Not playing 27... a6 was a blunder by Carlsen.

Games: 120 minutes + 60 seconds, on a fairly powerful overclocked 4 core i7:

[pgn][Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "KAI-PC"]
[Date "2013.11.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Komodo6-64bit"]
[Black "Stockfish_syzygy_13111223_x64_modern_sse42"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "22:48:51"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "7200+60"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r1b4r/pkp1npp1/1p6/1N2PP1p/6P1/1P1N3P/3R4/3R2K1 b - - 0 27"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

27. ... a6 28. Nd4 a5 29. Rc1 hxg4 30. hxg4 a4 31. bxa4 Rxa4 32. Nf2 g6
33. Nb5 Nc6 34. Rdc2 Bd7 35. fxg6 fxg6 36. e6 Be8 37. Re2 Ra5 38. Rb1 Ne7
39. Nc3 Bc6 40. Re3 Rf8 41. Nd3 Rg5 42. Nf2 Rc5 43. Rbe1 Rc4 44. Nce4 Rf4
45. Ng3 Bd5 46. Nd3 Rf6 47. g5 Rf8 48. Ne5 Rc2 49. R3e2 Rxe2 50. Rxe2 Rf4
51. Re1 Rh4 52. Kf2 Rh2+ 53. Kf1 b5 54. Ng4 Ra2 55. Re5 b4 56. Ne3 Bc6
57. Nc4 b3 58. Re3 Bb5 59. Rxb3 Kc6 60. Rxb5 Kxb5 61. Ne3 Kc5 62. Ne2 Kd6
63. Nc3 Ra1+ 64. Ke2 Kxe6 65. Nc2 Rh1 66. Nd4+ Ke5 67. Nf3+ Kf4 68. Kf2 Kg4
69. Ne4 Rh3 70. Nf6+ Kf4 71. Nd4 Kxg5 72. Ne4+ Kf4 73. Ne6+ Kf5
74. N6c5 Nd5 75. Ng3+ Kg4 76. Nf1 g5 77. Ne6 Kf5 78. Nd4+ Ke5 79. Nf3+ Kf4
80. Ng1 Rd3 81. Ke2 Ra3 82. Kf2 Nc3 83. Nh3+ Kg4 84. Nxg5 Kxg5 85. Ke3 { White resigns} 0-1[/pgn]

[pgn]
[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "KAI-PC"]
[Date "2013.11.15"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_syzygy_13111223_x64_modern_sse42"]
[Black "Komodo6-64bit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "05:34:26"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "7200+60"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r1b4r/pkp1npp1/1p6/1N2PP1p/6P1/1P1N3P/3R4/3R2K1 b - - 0 27"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

27. ... a6 28. Nd4 hxg4 29. hxg4 a5 30. Rh2 Rxh2 31. Kxh2 a4 32. bxa4 Rxa4
33. Nf4 c5 34. e6 f6 35. Nde2 Kc6 36. Rd8 Ba6 37. Kg3 Bxe2 38. Nxe2 b5
39. Re8 Ra7 40. Kf3 b4 41. Ke4 Kb5 42. Rd8 Nc6 43. Rd2 Ra4 44. Rb2 Ra1
45. Kd5 Rd1+ 46. Ke4 Kb6 47. Ke3 Rd8 48. Rd2 Rxd2 49. Kxd2 c4 50. Nc1 Ne7
51. Kc2 g5 52. Kb2 Kc6 53. Na2 Kc5 54. Kc1 b3 55. Nc3 Kd4 56. Kd2 { White
resigns} 0-1
[/pgn]

So much about computers being useless here. Another of Kasparov's wishful thinking.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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I get up this morning and make my normal internet rounds.
I find the world championship game on move 43 and no posts discussing this game. I also find lots of posts about the Tcec games.
something wrong with this.
seems the message is human low level 2800 vs 2800 is boring compared to high level take chance, go for the win program vs program.
we need another crazy mental 2800 GM like Fischer was---he played for the win.
Oh well I feel sorry for the best human players, other sports do not have machines exposing their true level of play.

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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Current position is very tensed and tricky...
[d]8/8/3k4/2p1P2R/p6p/PbK5/6PP/1B1r4 b - - 0 1
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Anand played Kd5 (SF's best move):
[d]8/8/8/2pkP2R/p6p/PbK5/6PP/1B1r4 w - - 1 2

According to SF4, this is yet another draw, now.

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0.00/27 2.Bh7 Ra1 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Bxb3 Rxa3 5.Kc4 axb3 6.Rh6+ Kd7 7.Kc3 Ra2 8.Kxb3 Rxg2 9.Rxh4 Re2 10.Rh7+ Kc6 11.Rh5 Kd5 12.e6+ Kxe6 13.Rxc5 Rxh2 14.Ra5 Re2 15.Rg5 Rd2 16.Kc3 Rf2 17.Kb3 Rd2
0.00/27 2.Bd3 Rc1+ 3.Kb2 Rd1 4.e6+ Kxe6 5.Kc3 Rc1+ 6.Kd2 Ra1 7.Rxh4 Ra2+ 8.Kc3 Rxg2 9.Rh6+ Ke5 10.Rh5+ Kd6 11.Rh6+ Kd5 12.Rh5+ Kd6
0.00/27 2.e6+ Kxe6 3.Bh7 Ra1 4.Rxc5 Rxa3 5.Be4 h3 6.gxh3 Ra2 7.Ra5 Kd6 8.h4 Rxh2 9.h5 Be6 10.Ra6+ Ke7 11.Rxa4 Rxh5 12.Kd4 Rh3 13.Ra6 Bb3 14.Rc6 Rh4 15.Ra6 Rh3
0.00/27 2.Bf5 Ra1 3.Bg6 Rxa3 4.Bf7+ Kc6 5.Bc4 Bd1+ 6.Kb2 Bxh5 7.Kxa3 Bd1 8.Bf7 Bb3 9.Bxb3 axb3 10.Kxb3 Kd5 11.g4 hxg3 12.hxg3 Kxe5 13.Kc4 Kd6 14.Kc3 Kd5 15.g4 Ke4 16.g5 Kf5 17.g6 Kxg6 18.Kb2 Kh5 19.Kb3 Kg6 20.Kb2
0.00/27 2.Bg6 Ra1 3.Bf7+
0.00/27 2.Kb2 Rd2+ 3.Kc3 Rxg2 4.Rxh4 Kxe5 5.Rh5+ Kd6 6.Rh6+ Kd5 7.Rh5+ Kd6
-5.77/27 2.Rxh4 Rxb1 3.Rh5 Rc1+ 4.Kd2 Rc2+ 5.Ke3 Rxg2 6.e6+ Kxe6 7.Rxc5 Rxh2 8.Ra5 Ra2 9.Ke4 Rxa3 10.Ra6+ Kd7 11.Kd4 Ra1 12.Kc5 Rc1+ 13.Kb4 Rc4+ 14.Kb5 Rc8 15.Kb4 Rc1 16.Ka3 Rc4 17.Kb2 Rf4 18.Ka3 Rg4 19.Rb6 Rh4 20.Ra6
-5.75/26 2.g3 Rxb1 3.e6+ Kd6 4.e7 Bf7 5.Rxh4 Rb3+ 6.Kd2 Rxa3 7.Re4 Be8 8.Kc1 Rc3+ 9.Kb1 Rb3+ 10.Ka2 Rb7 11.h4 Rxe7 12.Rxe7 Kxe7 13.Kb2 c4 14.g4 Kf6 15.h5 Kg5 16.h6 Kxh6 17.Ka3 c3 18.Kb4 c2
-5.87/26 2.Be4+ Kxe4 3.Rxh4+ Kxe5 4.Rh5+ Kd6 5.Rh6+ Be6 6.Rh4 Rc1+ 7.Kd2 Rb1 8.Rxa4 Rb2+ 9.Kc3 Rxg2 10.Rh4 Re2 11.a4 Ra2 12.Kd3 c4+ 13.Kd4 Ra3 14.Rh6 c3 15.Ke3 Ke5 16.Rh8 c2+ 17.Kd2 Bf5 18.Rf8 Be4 19.Re8+ Kf4 20.Rf8+ Bf5 21.h4 Rxa4
-5.91/26 2.g4 Rxb1 3.Rxh4 Kxe5 4.g5 Ra1 5.g6 Rxa3 6.g7 Bd5+ 7.Kd2 Ra2+ 8.Ke3 Rg2 9.Rxa4 Rxg7 10.Rh4 c4 11.Rh5+ Kd6 12.Kd4 Rg4+ 13.Kc3 Rf4 14.Rh3 Rf2 15.Kd4 Be6 16.Re3 Rxh2 17.Rg3 Rh4+ 18.Kc3 Ke5 19.Rg5+ Ke4
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Carlsen played Bh7.
[d]8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/PbK5/6PP/3r4 b - - 2 2
It's interesting because, if Carlsen only has draw moves, Anand only has one move that doesn't lose, each time, so it's not that easy for black actually. One mistake and it's lost.

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0.00/28 2...Ra1 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Bxb3 Rxa3 5.Kc4 axb3 6.Rh6+ Kd7 7.Kc3 Ra2 8.Kxb3 Rxg2 9.Rxh4 Re2 10.Rh7+ Kc6 11.Rh5 Kd5 12.e6+ Kxe6 13.Rxc5 Rxh2 14.Ra5 Re2 15.Rg5 Rd2 16.Kc3 Rf2 17.Kb3 Rd2
+0.42/28 2...Re1 3.e6+ Kd6 4.Rxh4 Ra1 5.Re4 Rxa3 6.e7 Bf7+ 7.Kb2 Ra2+ 8.Kb1 Rxg2 9.e8=Q Bxe8 10.Rxe8 Rxh2 11.Bd3 Kd5 12.Rd8+ Kc6 13.Ra8 Rh4 14.Kb2 Rb4+ 15.Kc3 Rb3+ 16.Kd2 Rb4 17.Bf5 Rf4 18.Bc2 Rb4 19.Kc3
+0.90/28 2...h3 3.Rxh3 Rc1+ 4.Kb2 Rg1 5.Rg3 Kxe5 6.h4 Re1 7.Bg6 Kd4 8.Rg4+ Ke5 9.h5 Re3 10.Kc1 Be6 11.Rxa4 Re2 12.Ra5 Rxg2 13.Rxc5+ Bd5 14.Ra5 Ra2
+1.39/27 2...Rc1+ 3.Kb2 Re1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Re4 Rxe4 8.Bxe4 c4 9.Kb1 c3 10.h4 Bd5 11.Bc2 Bb3 12.Bg6 Bf7 13.Bf5 Be6 14.Bh7 Bg8 15.Be4 Bd5
+1.45/27 2...Kc6 3.Be4+ Kb5 4.Bd3+ Kc6 5.Rh6+ Kd5 6.Bc4+ Kxe5 7.Bxb3 axb3 8.Rxh4 Rg1 9.Kxb3 Rxg2 10.a4 Kd5 11.a5 Re2 12.a6 Re3+ 13.Ka4 Re2 14.Rh5+ Kd4 15.Rh3 Ra2+ 16.Ra3 Rxh2 17.a7 Rh8 18.Kb5 Ra8
+1.87/27 2...Rd4 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Rh6+ Kb5 5.Bxb3 axb3 6.e6 Kc6 7.e7+ Kd7 8.Re6 Ke8 9.Re2 h3 10.g3 Rd1 11.Kxb3 Rb1+ 12.Kc3 Ra1 13.Kd3 Rd1+ 14.Kc2 Ra1 15.Kc3 Rxa3+ 16.Kc4 Ra7 17.Kxc5 Rd7 18.g4 Rxe7 19.Rxe7+ Kxe7 20.g5 Kf7 21.Kd4 Kg6
+2.00/27 2...Rg1 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Rh6+ Kb5 5.Bxb3 axb3 6.Kxb3 c4+ 7.Kc3 Ra1 8.Rxh4 Rxa3+ 9.Kd4 Rd3+ 10.Ke4 Rd2 11.g4 Kc5 12.Rh7 Re2+ 13.Kf3 Re1 14.Rc7+ Kd4 15.Rd7+ Kc5 16.h4 c3 17.Rc7+ Kd4 18.g5 Kd3 19.Rd7+ Kc4 20.g6 c2 21.g7 Rf1+ 22.Ke4 Re1+ 23.Kf5 Rf1+ 24.Ke6
+2.16/27 2...c4 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.e6 Rd3+ 5.Kb4 c3 6.e7 Re3 7.Bxb3 axb3 8.Kxb3 c2+ 9.Kb2 Rxe7 10.Rxh4 Kd5 11.Kxc2 Re2+ 12.Kc3 Rxg2 13.a4 Kc5 14.Rh5+ Kb6 15.a5+ Ka6 16.Kc4 Rc2+ 17.Kb3 Re2 18.Kc4 Re4+ 19.Kd3 Ra4 20.h3 Ra2 21.Kc4 Ra4+ 22.Kc3 Rf4 23.Kd3 Ra4 24.Kc3
+2.18/27 2...Rh1 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Bxb3 axb3 5.Rxh4 Kd5 6.Kxb3 Re1 7.Rg4 Re3+ 8.Kb2 Rxe5 9.a4 c4 10.h4 Re2+ 11.Kc3 Re3+ 12.Kc2 Re2+ 13.Kc3
+2.22/27 2...Rf1 3.Bg8+ Kc6 4.Rh6+ Kb5 5.Bxb3 axb3 6.e6 Re1 7.Kxb3 Re3+ 8.Kc2 Kc6 9.Rxh4 Rxe6 10.Kd3 Re1 11.Rg4 Ra1 12.a4 Kd5 13.h4 Ra3+ 14.Kd2 c4 15.a5 Ra1 16.h5 Ra2+ 17.Kc1 Re2 18.Kb1 c3 19.h6
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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There it is! Anand made an inaccuracy and played Rc1+!
[d]8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/PbK5/6PP/2r5 w - - 3 3
Carlsen immediately answered with the best reply : Kb2:
[d]8/7B/8/2pkP2R/p6p/Pb6/1K4PP/2r5 b - - 4 3

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+0.42/29 3...Re1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Rf4 Rxe5 8.Rf2+ Ke1 9.Rf8 c4 10.h4 Re7 11.Bf5 Re3 12.Bg6 Re2+ 13.Kc1 Rxg2 14.h5 Rh2 15.Re8+ Kf2 16.Kd2 Kf3+ 17.Kc3 Kf4 18.Re4+ Kg5 19.Re5+ Kf4 20.Rc5 Rh3+ 21.Kd4 Rh1 22.Rc8 Rd1+ 23.Kc3 Rc1+ 24.Kb4 Rh1 25.Be8 Ke5 26.Bb5
+1.39/29 3...Rg1 4.Bg8+
+1.81/29 3...Rh1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bxb3 axb3 7.Rh3+ Kd4 8.Kxb3 c4+ 9.Kc2 Kxe5 10.Rg3 Rxh2 11.Kc3 Rh8 12.Kxc4 Kf4 13.Rc3 Ke4 14.g3 Ra8 15.Kb3 Kd4 16.Rc4+ Ke5 17.a4
+1.96/29 3...Rf1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Rh6 Ke3 8.Rd6 Re1 9.e6 Kf4 10.Rc6 Re5 11.Kc3 Bxe6 12.Bd3
+1.88/29 3...Rd1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Rh6 Re1 8.Rd6+ Ke3 9.e6 Kf2 10.Rd2+ Ke3 11.Rd6
+7.21/28 3...Rc4 4.Bg8+ Kc6 5.Rh6+ Kd7 6.Bxc4 Bxc4 7.Kc3 Bb3 8.Kd3 Ke7 9.Ke4 c4 10.Kd4 c3 11.Kxc3 Bd5 12.Rxh4 Ke6 13.Kd4 Bxg2 14.Rh6+ Ke7 15.Kc5 Bf3 16.h4 Bd1 17.Rg6 Kf7 18.Rg1 Bc2 19.Rg5 Bd3 20.h5
+12.26/28 3...Kd4 4.Kxc1 Bf7 5.Rxh4+ Kxe5 6.Bc2 Bd5 7.g3 Bg2 8.Bxa4 Kd5 9.Kd2 Bf1 10.Kc3 Be2 11.Bb3+ Kc6 12.Rh6+ Kc7 13.Ba4 Kb8 14.Rc6 Bg4 15.Rxc5 Bh3 16.Kd4 Kb7 17.Bb5 Kb6 18.Bc4 Bg4 19.h4 Kb7 20.h5
+12.26/28 3...h3 4.Kxc1 Kd4 5.Rxh3 Kxe5 6.Rh4 Bd5 7.g3 Kd6 8.Bc2 Bg2 9.Bxa4 Bf1 10.Kd2 c4 11.Kc3 Kc5 12.Rf4 Bh3 13.Rxc4+ Kd5 14.Rd4+ Kc5 15.Rc4+
+12.26/28 3...Ra1 4.Kxa1 Bd1 5.Bg8+ Ke4 6.Rxh4+ Kxe5 7.Kb2 Kf6 8.Bh7 Be2 9.Bc2 Bb5 10.Bxa4 Be2 11.Kc3 Ke5 12.Kd2 Bf1 13.g3 Kd6 14.Rh6+ Ke7 15.Kc3 Be2 16.Rc6 c4 17.Bb5 Bg4 18.Rh6 Kf7 19.a4 Kg7 20.Rh4 Bc8 21.Bxc4 Kg6 22.a5
+12.26/28 3...Kc4 4.Kxc1 Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kxe5 6.Bc2 Bd5 7.g3 Bg2 8.Bxa4 Kd5 9.Kd2 Bf1 10.Kc3 Be2 11.Bb3+ Kc6 12.Rh6+ Kc7 13.Ba4 Kb8 14.Rb6+ Ka7 15.Rc6 c4 16.Bb5 Bf3 17.Rh6 Bg4 18.Bxc4 Kb7 19.a4 Bd1 20.a5 Bf3 21.Rh7+ Kc6 22.a6
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Anand answered with Rg1... when SF4 eventually thought that Re1 would have been a draw after all !!!

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0.00/34 3...Re1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Rf4 Rxe5 8.Rf2+ Ke1 9.Rf8 c4 10.h4 Kd2 11.Rf2+ Ke3 12.Rf6 Kd2 13.Rd6+ Ke1 14.g4 Re3 15.Kc1 Rc3+ 16.Kb1 Rg3 17.h5 Ke2 18.Kc1 Rg1+ 19.Kb2 Rg3 20.Re6+ Kd2 21.Rd6+ Ke2
+1.65/34 3...Rg1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kxe5 6.Bxb3 axb3 7.g3 Kd5 8.Kxb3 Rf1 9.a4 Rf3+ 10.Kb2 Rf2+ 11.Kc3 Rf3+ 12.Kd2 Ra3 13.Kc2 Rf3 14.Rf4 Re3 15.Kc1 Rc3+ 16.Kb2 Re3 17.Rf2
+1.77/34 3...Rf1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Bh7+ Kd2 7.Rh6 Ke3 8.Rd6 Re1 9.e6 Kf4 10.Rc6 Re5 11.Kc3 Bxe6 12.Bd3 Ke3 13.Bc4 Bf5 14.Rf6 Be4 15.g3 Re8 16.Re6 Rd8 17.Re5 Kf3 18.Rg5 Rh8 19.h4 Rd8 20.h5 Rd1 21.Rxc5 Kxg3 22.h6 Kf4 23.Rc7
+2.28/34 3...Rh1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Rh3+ Kd4 7.Bxb3 axb3 8.Kxb3 c4+ 9.Kc2 Ra1 10.Rh4+ Kd5 11.Kb2 Re1 12.a4 Rxe5 13.a5 Kc5 14.a6 Re2+ 15.Kc3 Re3+ 16.Kd2 Ra3 17.Rh6 Kd4 18.g4 c3+ 19.Kd1 Ra1+ 20.Kc2 Ra2+ 21.Kb1 c2+ 22.Kc1 Kd3 23.Rh3+ Kd4 24.Rb3 Kc4 25.Rf3 Rxa6 26.h4 Ra1+ 27.Kxc2 Ra2+ 28.Kd1 Rg2 29.g5 Rh2 30.Rf4+ Kd3 31.Kc1 Rc2+ 32.Kb1 Rg2 33.Ra4
+2.30/33 3...Rd1 4.Bg8+ Kd4 5.Rxh4+ Kd3 6.Rh3+ Kd4 7.Bxb3 axb3 8.Kxb3 c4+ 9.Kc2 Re1 10.Rh4+ Kd5 11.a4 Rxe5 12.a5 Kc5 13.g4 Re2+ 14.Kc3 Re3+ 15.Kd2 Ra3 16.Rh6 Kd4 17.a6 c3+ 18.Kc2 Ra2+ 19.Kb1 c2+ 20.Kc1 Kd3 21.Rh3+ Kc4 22.Rf3 Rxa6 23.h4 Ra1+ 24.Kxc2 Ra2+ 25.Kd1 Rg2 26.g5 Rh2 27.Ra3 Kb4 28.Rg3 Rxh4 29.g6
+10.65/33 3...Rc4 4.Bg8+ Kc6 5.Rh6+ Kc7 6.Bxc4 Bxc4 7.Rxh4 Bb3 8.Rh6 Bd1 9.Kc3 Be2 10.Kd2 Bg4 11.Kd3 Bc8 12.Kc4 Kd7 13.Kxc5 Ke7 14.Kd4 Kf7 15.Rc6 Bg4 16.Kd5 Kg7 17.h4 Bf5 18.Rc5 Bg4 19.Kd6 Kg6 20.e6 Kf6 21.e7 Kf7 22.Rc4 Bf5 23.g4
+14.20/33 3...Ra1 4.Kxa1 Bd1 5.Rxh4 Kxe5 6.Kb2 Kf6 7.Bc2 Be2 8.Kc3 Kg7 9.Kd2 Bb5 10.Bxa4 Ba6 11.Kc3 Kf7 12.g3 Kg6 13.Bb3 Kg5 14.a4 Be2 15.Rc4 Kf6 16.Rxc5 Bf1 17.Kd4 Ke7 18.a5 Kd6 19.h4 Ke7 20.h5 Bg2 21.h6
+30.00/33 3...Kd4 4.Kxc1 h3 5.Rxh3 Ba2 6.Kb2 Bf7 7.e6 Bxe6 8.Rd3+ Ke5 9.Re3+ Kd6 10.Rxe6+ Kxe6 11.h4 c4 12.g4 Kf6 13.g5+ Ke7 14.h5 Ke6 15.Kc1 Kf7 16.h6 Ke6 17.g6 Ke5 18.g7 Kd4 19.g8=Q Kc5 20.Bf5 Kb5 21.h7 Kc5 22.Qf8+ Kc6 23.h8=Q
+30.00/33 3...h3 4.Kxc1 Kd4 5.Rxh3 Ba2 6.Kb2 Bf7 7.e6 Bxe6 8.Rd3+ Ke5 9.Re3+ Kd6 10.Rxe6+ Kxe6 11.h4 c4 12.g4 Kf6 13.g5+ Ke7 14.h5 Ke6 15.Kc1 Kf7 16.h6 Ke6 17.g6 Ke5 18.g7 Kd4 19.g8=Q Kc5 20.Bf5 Kb5 21.h7 Kc5 22.Qf8+ Kc6 23.h8=Q
+80.47/33 3...Kc6 4.Kxc1 h3 5.Be4+ Kc7 6.Rxh3 Be6 7.Rh6 Bg4 8.Rf6 c4 9.Bf5 Bh5 10.Rh6 Be8 11.Rh7+ Kb6 12.Rh8 Bc6 13.e6 Ka7 14.Rh7+ Ka6 15.e7 Kb5 16.Rh6 Be8 17.Bg6 Bd7 18.e8=Q Bc6 19.Qe5+ Kb6 20.Bf7 Ka7 21.Rxc6 Kb7
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Carlsen played Bg8+ and Anand chose the not optimal continuation Kc6, leading to what SF thinks is nearly +2 for white !
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+1.91/28 5.Rh6+ Kb5 6.Bxb3 axb3 7.Kxb3 c4+ 8.Kc3 Ra1 9.Rxh4 Rxa3+ 10.Kd4 Rd3+ 11.Ke4 Rd2 12.g4 c3 13.Rh7 Rg2 14.Rc7 Rxg4+ 15.Kd3 Rg5 16.Kd4 Rg4+ 17.Kd5 Kb4 18.e6 Rg2 19.e7 Re2 20.h4 c2 21.Rxc2 Rxe7 22.Rc4+ Kb5 23.h5 Rh7
+1.05/28 5.Bxb3 axb3 6.Rxh4 Rxg2+ 7.Kxb3 Kd5 8.a4 Re2 9.a5 Rxe5 10.a6 Re3+ 11.Ka4 Re2 12.Rh3 Ra2+ 13.Ra3 Rxh2 14.a7 Rh8 15.Kb5 Ra8 16.Rd3+ Ke6 17.Kb6 Ke5 18.Rh3 c4 19.Rh4 Kd5 20.Kb7 Rxa7+ 21.Kxa7 Kc5 22.Ka6 Kb4 23.Rg4
-0.56/28 5.Bh7 Rxg2+ 6.Kc3 Rxh2 7.Be4+ Kc7 8.Bf5 Rf2 9.Bd3 Rf4 10.Kd2 Bg8 11.Be2 Bd5 12.Rh7+ Kd8 13.Bb5 Rd4+ 14.Ke3 Re4+ 15.Kd3 c4+ 16.Kc3 Be6 17.Rh6 Ke7 18.Bxa4 Re3+ 19.Kd4 Rd3+ 20.Kc5 Rxa3 21.Bc2 Ra5+ 22.Kd4 Rd5+ 23.Kxc4 Rxe5+ 24.Kd4 Re2 25.Be4
-1.81/28 5.Rg5 h3 6.Rg6+ Kc7 7.Bh7 Rxg2+ 8.Kc3 Rc2+ 9.Kd3 Ra2 10.Rg7+ Kd8 11.Ke3 Rxa3 12.Bf5 Be6+ 13.Kf4 Bxf5 14.Kxf5 Ra2 15.Ra7 Rxh2 16.Rxa4 Re2 17.Ra8+ Kd7 18.e6+ Ke7 19.Ra7+ Kd6 20.Rd7+ Kc6 21.Rh7 h2 22.Kf4 Kd5 23.e7
-5.55/28 5.g3 Bxg8 6.Rxh4 Rg2+ 7.Kc3 Be6 8.Rxa4 Rxh2 9.Kd3 Kd5 10.Ke3 Kxe5 11.Ra5 Kd5 12.a4 Ra2 13.Ra6 c4 14.Ra5+ Kd6 15.Rb5 Rxa4 16.Kd4 Ra3 17.Rb6+ Kd7 18.Ke5 Re3+ 19.Kf4 Rb3 20.Ra6 c3 21.Ke3
-5.79/28 5.Kc3 Bxg8 6.Rxh4 Rxg2 7.Rxa4 Kd5 8.Ra8 Be6 9.Rd8+ Kxe5 10.Rd2 Rg4 11.Rd3 Ra4 12.Re3+ Kd6 13.Kb2 Rh4 14.Rd3+ Kc6 15.Rd2 Bd5 16.Rf2 Kd6 17.Rf6+ Ke5 18.Rf2 Rh3 19.a4 Rb3+ 20.Kc1 Ra3 21.Rc2 Kd6 22.Kd2 Rxa4 23.Rc3 Rb4 24.h3 Rb2+ 25.Ke3 Rh2 26.Kf4 c4
-5.79/28 5.Rxh4 Rxg2+ 6.Kc3 Bxg8 7.Rxa4 Kd5 8.Ra8 Be6 9.Rd8+ Kxe5 10.Rd2 Rg4 11.Rd3 Ra4 12.Re3+ Kd6 13.Kb2 Rh4 14.Rd3+ Kc6 15.Rd2 Bd5 16.Rf2 Kd6 17.Rf6+ Ke5 18.Rf2 Rh3 19.a4 Rb3+ 20.Kc1 Ra3 21.Rc2 Kd6 22.Kd2 Rxa4 23.Rc3 Rb4 24.h3 Rb2+ 25.Ke3 Rh2 26.Kf4 c4
-6.58/28 5.e6 Rxg2+ 6.Kc3 Rxg8 7.Rxh4 Kd6 8.Re4 Bxe6 9.Rxa4 Rf8 10.Ra6+ Ke5 11.Rc6 Rf3+ 12.Kb2 Kd5 13.Rb6 Rf2+ 14.Kc3 Ra2 15.Rb1 Rxa3+ 16.Kb2 Rh3 17.Rd1+ Ke5 18.Re1+ Kd6 19.Re2 c4 20.Rf2 c3+ 21.Kc2 Ke5 22.Re2+ Kd5 23.Rf2 Kd4 24.Rf4+ Ke5 25.Ra4 Bf5+ 26.Kc1 Rxh2 27.Ra5+ Kf4
-6.74/27 5.g4 Bxg8 6.Rxh4 Be6 7.h3 Rg2+ 8.Kc1 Kd5 9.Rh7 Rg3 10.Ra7 Rxa3 11.g5 Rxh3 12.Rxa4 Rg3 13.Kd2 Rxg5 14.Ke3 Rxe5+ 15.Kf4 Re2 16.Kf3 Rh2 17.Ra1 c4 18.Rd1+ Kc5 19.Rc1
-6.95/27 5.Bc4 Bxc4 6.Rh6+ Kd5 7.e6 Kd6 8.e7+ Kxe7 9.Rxh4 Rxg2+ 10.Kc3 Bb3 11.Rh6 Be6 12.Rh4 Kd6 13.Rxa4 Rxh2 14.Ra8 Rh3+ 15.Kb2 c4 16.Rd8+ Ke5 17.Rd1 c3+ 18.Kc1 Bf5 19.Re1+ Kd4 20.Rg1 Rh2 21.Re1 Ra2 22.Kd1 Rxa3
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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At depth 30 SF4 now thinks that Bxb3 is even better than Rh6+!

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+2.03/30 5.Bxb3 axb3 6.Rxh4 Rxg2+ 7.Kxb3 Kd5 8.a4 Re2 9.a5 Rxe5 10.a6 Re3+ 11.Kc2 Re7 12.Ra4 Re2+ 13.Kc3 Rxh2 14.a7 Rh3+ 15.Kb2 Rh2+ 16.Kb3 Rh3+ 17.Kb2
+1.81/30 5.Rh6+ Kb5 6.Bxb3 axb3 7.Kxb3 c4+ 8.Kc3 Ra1 9.Rxh4 Rxa3+ 10.Kd4 Rd3+ 11.Ke4 Rd2 12.g4 c3 13.Rh7 Rg2 14.Rc7 Rxg4+ 15.Kd3 Rg5 16.Kd4 Rg4+ 17.Kd5 Kb4 18.e6 Rg2 19.e7 Re2 20.h4 Kb3 21.Rb7+ Ka3 22.Kd4 c2 23.Rc7 Kb3 24.Rc3+ Kb2
But both lines are really around +2 anyway.
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