Komodo - Rybka in Danger?

[Rolf]

It's not really like that. The issue is the underlying message that Vas is some of kind of lying fraud. Nobody want to talk directly about what is really being implied here, and instead wants to take little jabs and imply that Vas must be guilty of something because he is afraid to aggressively go after the cloners. He must be hiding something - he must be afraid or otherwise he would do that because we think he should. It's a government cover-up!

__He definitely falls into this category

I'm not speaking to those who really want to know the facts, which have already been clearly presented - I'm speaking to those who seem to have a need to dismiss or ignore the facts.

__What facts are you talking about,we haven't hear or say anything yet

I would also like to say that I don't know how I got sucked into this. I personally don't really care that much on a personal level there is nothing at stake for me - it's just that my own personal sense of justice is offended when I see someone get ripped off like Vas was, and this is followed up by character assassination cleverly disguised as concern for his well being.

__Vasik has drown himself into a moral cesspoll by lying to the clients and fans of Rybka by not releasing the Rybka 3+ and yes I am making my point for the 10 000 time already because I have the rihgt to recieve Rybka 3+ as an honest customer paid for his piece of software....

Vas may very well believe the code is stolen from him. Maybe he has very good reason to believe that. The nothing more than cursory investigations reported in this forum have yielded suspicions, but there frankly are too many questions. Maybe he jumped the gun. Maybe not.

It is reasonable and expected for people to protect their property. Did you know that?

I hope Vas will make his case. He has waited WAY TOO LONG. I have never seen a software company respond to stolen source like Rybka has.

Here's the typical thing to do. You go issue a press release and announce that your proprietary source code has been illegally pirated. You make a big deal about. If you do not want to show proof just then, because you may be doing further investigation, then you definitely want to announce that you have investigators (working with the police, etc.) vigorously investigating the matter to bring the thieves to justice.

To say the least Rybka is public relations disaster.

What would you say about Debb? Is he guilty of dirty allegations and would it help if we knew his real name? Could Vas make a case against Debb? Could you clarify his identity, name and address? I want to see if I can help in this case. Thanks.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

If that is _your_ definition of "personal attack" you _really_ have no business being a moderator. The only conclusion I could draw from that would be that anything you disagree with would be a "personal attack" somehow.

I disagree. Dr. Wael Deeb has issued a large number of posts whose main point is to insult Vas, because he is angry about the patch issue. If the main point is to insult, it is a "personal attack" in my opinion, and does not belong here. It is fine to complain about no patch (preferably only within threads where the topic is relevant) but saying someone "should shut their big fat mouth" or "is a jerk" or whatever does not belong here. Just because it does not offend me personally to be called names, does not make it appropriate for others to be subjected to such things.

-Sam

To your surprise I totaly agree Sam but only to mention that the "jerk" issue is related to Don Daily,not to me
Cheers,
Dr.D

[Graham Banks]

To your surprise I totaly agree Sam but only to mention that the "jerk" issue is related to Don Daily,not to me
Cheers,
Dr.D

To his credit though, Don edited his post within minutes of making it, to exclude the word jerks.

[Rolf]

To your surprise I totaly agree Sam but only to mention that the "jerk" issue is related to Don Daily,not to me
Cheers,
Dr.D

To his credit though, Don edited his post within minutes of making it, to exclude the word jerks.

Graham for the life of me, please answer this with care.

I read what Don had written. I saw no insult. Because he argued that those who asked in played naivety from Vas were jerks not just all who talked about the topic. I explained the grammar which was a relative statement. Relative means that it's related to a certain group of people and not in general.

The second part of my concern is this. You publicly criticised Don for the jerks expression but you let uncommented the D remark of Vas as a lying fraud. Sorry, but this isnt honest because you measure with two different systems.

IMO we degenerate this forum if we tolerate such evil comments or insults.

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

[Graham Banks]

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

No, that information cannot be shared.
Wael uses his real name anyway as far as I'm aware.
By the way it's Ben Stoker. Bram wrote "Dracula".
Regarding your other question, I do not moderate posts made before I was elected.

Cheers,
Graham.

[Rolf]

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

No, that information cannot be shared.
Wael uses his real name anyway as far as I'm aware.
By the way it's Ben Stoker. Bram wrote "Dracula".

Cheers,
Graham.

Ok, let's the FBI investigate that one, but what is with "jerks" as a relative statement and "lying fraud" against Vas?

[Graham Banks]

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

No, that information cannot be shared.
Wael uses his real name anyway as far as I'm aware.
By the way it's Ben Stoker. Bram wrote "Dracula".

Cheers,
Graham.

Ok, let's the FBI investigate that one, but what is with "jerks" as a relative statement and "lying fraud" against Vas?

Already answered. Please don't make a debate out of it. Let's talk computer chess.

[alpha123]

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

No, that information cannot be shared.
Wael uses his real name anyway as far as I'm aware.
By the way it's Ben Stoker. Bram wrote "Dracula".

Cheers,
Graham.

Ok, let's the FBI investigate that one, but what is with "jerks" as a relative statement and "lying fraud" against Vas?

Already answered. Please don't make a debate out of it. Let's talk computer chess.

"Let's talk computer chess"

Thank you Graham. I'm afraid not enough people have been doing that lately.....

Peter

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Graham, I already asked Bram Soker and now you for Dr D identity. Could you send me his real name and address as it stands in his formular of entry? PM or email seems bestly.

Thanks.

No, that information cannot be shared.
Wael uses his real name anyway as far as I'm aware.
By the way it's Ben Stoker. Bram wrote "Dracula".

Cheers,
Graham.

Ok, let's the FBI investigate that one, but what is with "jerks" as a relative statement and "lying fraud" against Vas?

Already answered. Please don't make a debate out of it. Let's talk computer chess.

"Let's talk computer chess"

Thank you Graham. I'm afraid not enough people have been doing that lately.....

Peter

Sad but true Peter....for example,an event like releasing a new version of Naum would generate a huge interest and statements....as you can notice it was burried quickly under the huge amount of rubbish that is posted....
Pepole went nuts with the Ippd/Robbo affair,friends turned against each others and the CCC forum is never the same....Again if Vasik was man enough to stand and clear up the situation,maybe a lot of this rubbish won't exist....just my opinion....
Dr.D

[Eizenhammer]

as you can notice it was burried quickly under the huge amount of rubbish that is posted....
Dr.D

Funny that it is you who says this; probably 50 % of all the rubbish here are your endless repetitions of this extremely clever "fanboy, fanboy!", usually accompanied by an intelligent emoticon; there must be thousands of these ever interesting outbreaks of morality.