Rybka disqualified and banned from World Computer Chess Cham

[Terry McCracken]

Whittington, you're bloody baboon.

Why you address Whitlingdon? I am not he.

Is this part symptom your ailment? I could order for you to be banned for insult, but you are mental-impaired so I do not quarrel you or your barking.

Right, and I'm Captain Nemo. I don't assume other identities, but schizoid personalities tend to have that problem.

[wgarvin]

(only barking)

As a matter of dedication to Holy Mother Church, I do not converse to unclean baboon. Do not address to me your barking.

Wow. I miss the days of the Internet before all the crazy people found it.

[bob]

The similarity in search and eval are not very condemnatory in my view.

You are correct.

The duplication of errors and dead code is.

It, like with the unneeded initializations, were put/included only for obfuscation, to prevent the reverse-engineer kings like ***i**y D**i**er from discovering the secrets.

I do not think that it has been demonstrated that Rybka has broken the law.

Reason being, Rybka did not break any laws. It is computer program!

IM Rajlich did not break any laws, that is point.

But some baboon may have broken laws

Aha, CW in disguise (or in drag if Carol is a female name) I assume?

So someone copied basically _all_ of Crafty into Rybka 1.6.1 just to obfuscate the other code? there _is_ no "other code" genius.

[bob]

(only barking)

As a matter of dedication to Holy Mother Church, I do not converse to unclean baboon. Do not address to me your barking.

Wow. I miss the days of the Internet before all the crazy people found it.

I'll bet you can identify this "crazy person" if you think about it. The fake first name has the same first letter as the real person.

[geots]

The similarity in search and eval are not very condemnatory in my view.

You are correct.

The duplication of errors and dead code is.

It, like with the unneeded initializations, were put/included only for obfuscation, to prevent the reverse-engineer kings like ***i**y D**i**er from discovering the secrets.

I do not think that it has been demonstrated that Rybka has broken the law.

Reason being, Rybka did not break any laws. It is computer program!

IM Rajlich did not break any laws, that is point.

But some baboon may have broken laws

Carol, pm me. We need to talk.


George

[bob]

The similarity in search and eval are not very condemnatory in my view.

You are correct.

The duplication of errors and dead code is.

It, like with the unneeded initializations, were put/included only for obfuscation, to prevent the reverse-engineer kings like ***i**y D**i**er from discovering the secrets.

I do not think that it has been demonstrated that Rybka has broken the law.

Reason being, Rybka did not break any laws. It is computer program!

IM Rajlich did not break any laws, that is point.

But some baboon may have broken laws

Carol, pm me. We need to talk.


George

You can use his real name if you want. I am sure you know it..

[Rolf]

The wheels of justice don't always grind fast, but they grind effectively.

What justice are you talking about? I cant respect a justice that arbitrarily chooses its targets and spare other well protected sinners. I give you a political example. Would you deny that the US military has commited war crimes in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan? Was there smoke in the air? Of course. Now I ask you how come that the US is never judged guilty before the court of the International Tribunal In The Hague?

Or take another example. After Deep Blue 2 team had beaten Kasparov they didnt allow to examine the details but they deconstructed the machine and quickly destroyed the evidence. You never raised your voice in protest. To the contrary you defended the team.

With this in mind I suppose that Vas Rajlich isnt accepting any justice performed by hobby judges.

Our justice system is very complex for a single reason and that is to guarantee fairness towards every possible defendent without prejudice. But what you were doing all these months is fabricating something that could be used to justify a pre-conceived judgement. In short you had no legal court trial at all. In other words, in every normal courtroom your results couldnt be used because of your bias. You are no independent and neutral researcher. With you I'm talking about you and your allies.

In special in the USA and its legal system it's so important to care about any possible bias, if not you have no case.

Let me give you a final example. The OJ trial. Of course OJ had murdered his wife and her lover. But OJ still got no murder verdict. Why? Because it could be reveiled that a single policeman had lied in a question that had practically nothing to do with that murder case. He had denied of "ever" having used the PC word "negroe" which is forbidden in your country. But he has used it. And so OJ couldnt be condemned for murder.

Bear this example in mind when you believe that your proof of Vasiks wrongdoing would hold water in a true lawcase. You have made hundreds of such "negroe" remarks against Vas and his lack of this or that so that you are totally burned as an expert witness. And you are not the only one who showed his bias. Christophe Theron comes to mind as a member of the panel.

The US military has killed a huge number of innocent people and still nobody is attending a trial in The Hague. Take this and bear it in mind if you want to destroy the life of someone out of sports like Vas. Somehow we must keep things in a fair balance and we shouldnt enter into blood thirst mode in a hobby entertainement, if true murder isnt effectively prosecuted. See OJ and the US military war crimes in the past wars.

[garybelton]

First. Keep any racists comments to yourself.

Second. Rajlich may or may not have got what he deserved. However, if Rajlich is banned for non-originality ("plagiarism") than they all should be, they are all plagiarists, no matter how Bob Hyatt would like to redefine the word plagiarism, it didn't work for Clinton and it won't work for Bob either. The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven.

Third. In a million years I would never have thought I would have agreed with you on anything but there are disturbing parallels between Fuhrman and Hyatt. I alluded to the OJ trial in a previous post. Fuhrman got his just rewards and Bob will most likely get his punishment too, either in this world or the next.

The person I feel most sorry for is Ken Thompson. Due to the lack of impartial oversight during this "investigation" Ken should be walking, if not running away from it as fast as he can.

[gerold]

The wheels of justice don't always grind fast, but they grind effectively.

What justice are you talking about? I cant respect a justice that arbitrarily chooses its targets and spare other well protected sinners. I give you a political example. Would you deny that the US military has commited war crimes in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan? Was there smoke in the air? Of course. Now I ask you how come that the US is never judged guilty before the court of the International Tribunal In The Hague?

Or take another example. After Deep Blue 2 team had beaten Kasparov they didnt allow to examine the details but they deconstructed the machine and quickly destroyed the evidence. You never raised your voice in protest. To the contrary you defended the team.

With this in mind I suppose that Vas Rajlich isnt accepting any justice performed by hobby judges.

Our justice system is very complex for a single reason and that is to guarantee fairness towards every possible defendent without prejudice. But what you were doing all these months is fabricating something that could be used to justify a pre-conceived judgement. In short you had no legal court trial at all. In other words, in every normal courtroom your results couldnt be used because of your bias. You are no independent and neutral researcher. With you I'm talking about you and your allies.

In special in the USA and its legal system it's so important to care about any possible bias, if not you have no case.

Let me give you a final example. The OJ trial. Of course OJ had murdered his wife and her lover. But OJ still got no murder verdict. Why? Because it could be reveiled that a single policeman had lied in a question that had practically nothing to do with that murder case. He had denied of "ever" having used the PC word "negroe" which is forbidden in your country. But he has used it. And so OJ couldnt be condemned for murder.

Bear this example in mind when you believe that your proof of Vasiks wrongdoing would hold water in a true lawcase. You have made hundreds of such "negroe" remarks against Vas and his lack of this or that so that you are totally burned as an expert witness. And you are not the only one who showed his bias. Christophe Theron comes to mind as a member of the panel.

The US military has killed a huge number of innocent people and still nobody is attending a trial in The Hague. Take this and bear it in mind if you want to destroy the life of someone out of sports like Vas. Somehow we must keep things in a fair balance and we shouldnt enter into blood thirst mode in a hobby entertainement, if true murder isnt effectively prosecuted. See OJ and the US military war crimes in the past wars.

You woke up from your deep sleep. Good. Good to have you back. Maybe things will be a little more lively in here now.

Best to you,
Gerold.

[Rolf]

Maybe things will be a little more lively in here now.

Certainly not by me. That would be against the wise attitude of Vas. It's much better to just speak out the evident only once. In science you dont have to repeat a refutation, if it's correct, it will enter the history books. BTW if we all would concentrate on creating new ideas, the world would be a better place. The endless nitpicking doesnt make sense.