The near future of computer chess

[Rebel]

3. You should take a look at youtube. You find everything. The music and movie industry are helpless. They have given up on youtube long time ago defeated by volume. These are the days of internet, it has come with new realities.

You sound like it is OK to steal things. It is not. You can request copywritten material be removed from youtube, and they will do it immediately. Copyright holders often persecute these thefts and often win large settlements.

Theft is wrong. You claim to be religious. Exodus 20:1-17 "Thou shall not steal". There is no "new reality". You are just turning a blind eye.

Ahem Mark, in case you missed it, the subject is IPPO and friends. It's now also forbidden to copy from freeware?

[fern]

Why you do this, Steven? Do you love to mortify me?
Hurt regards
Fern

[Terry McCracken]

It's now also forbidden to copy from freeware?

Always has been if you're copying code directly.

[fern]

Of course, Bob, there are tons of original stuff. I am just signalling a trend. Economy and social life based in private property and personal identities is vanishing fast even if still the old animal is alive and kicking.

Doom regards
Fern

[fern]

You -and many more -does not understand what I say. You see my words as a kind of defense of what is going on and a permission to thieves to steal. I do no. I am just signalling what is going on, like it or not.
My books are already stolen. Some clandestine presses, here in Chile, take any book that became a hit and make it and sell it in certain places. Do you believe I like hat?
No.
But I understand how and why that happens these days with so much easy.

My best
Fern

[asanjuan]

This is my opinion:

If someone publishes his code under gpl or some similiar license, he is giving a valid solution to the entire world for a given problem, for free. Is a present for the rest of the world that is trying to improve the state of the art solution for a given problem. And is also saying that the code is there for anyone interested in adapt it in order to improve to make a better world, and bla, bla, bla.... Is very clear. He is very generous.

Computer Chess is only a problem to solve.

The only thing that is being discused is "who invented this code from scratch?".
But the cuestion is: Who cares?

If you don't want to see your code altered by other who says that is his code... is very simple. Don't share your code!!
Ok, you can say that is immoral, but the world is full of immoral people. Nobody can solve this problem because is part of the human condition.
¿Don't want to see your code over there? Don't share.
¿Want that they recognise your work? Don't be egocentric. You gave a present, and a gift is made without thinking about what they will give you in exchange.

I am not saying that copying here ant there is good. I am saying that is immoral, but on the other hand this problem can be avoided.
This is why i don't copy other's code. This is why i will never share my code. Simple and effective.

[fern]

Damn, terry, in a past life for sure you was an "inquisidor".

Fern

[hgm]

If someone publishes his code under gpl or some similiar license, he is giving a valid solution to the entire world for a given problem, for free.

No, he isn't. That would only be true if it was published under a complete 'no strings' freeware license very dissimilar to the GPL. When someone is publishing under GPL, he is asking 'payment in kind'. The price for using the solution is to similarly donate yours.

[Terry McCracken]

Damn, terry, in a past life for sure you was an "inquisidor".

Fern

I state an obvious fact and somehow I'm akin the Spanish Inquisition?

How sad...

[bob]

I still believe this is more about trying to minimize what Vas did and make it appear to be OK because others have done it.

It's not about Vas this time. It's about the 2009 disaster to fair play, Ippo and friends, FREEWARE.

I don't see any 2009 disaster related to ippo and friends... Other than the fact that some have copied the code and try to purport it to be their own original work. That's was also happening well before 2009.