Me. Gideon Pro (1993) fairly equal to Komodo 9.2: 45.0-55.0

[fern]

Thanks Kai.
The engine I was playing was Complete Chess System, which was a predecesor of Chess System Tal by Witington. I had to make efforts to control the beast and so I became curious. It is, BTW, an interesting program you can download for free and play with D-Fend.

Caesar send his regards
Fern

[Laskos]

Thanks Kai.
The engine I was playing was Complete Chess System, which was a predecesor of Chess System Tal by Witington. I had to make efforts to control the beast and so I became curious. It is, BTW, an interesting program you can download for free and play with D-Fend.

Caesar send his regards
Fern

My level is probably not enough to control it even on 486 33 MHz emulator, but I will look at it. I was not a geek on collecting chess programs a while back then. I remember I had in 1991(?) Chessmaster 3000, downloaded one recently with DOSBox, had good time.

Morituri te salutant

[fern]

CM 3000 is a very good piece of programming. Some atributes it to Kittinger, some other to the Spracklen. In any case play a very strong game in current machinery.
I dare to say any one of these old DOS engines circa 1990 are, these days, 2200 or so level players.

Heard that Crassus is going to massacre in Carrhae regards
Fern

[Laskos]

CM 3000 is a very good piece of programming. Some atributes it to Kittinger, some other to the Spracklen. In any case play a very strong game in current machinery.
I dare to say any one of these old DOS engines circa 1990 are, these days, 2200 or so level players.

Heard that Crassus is going to massacre in Carrhae regards
Fern

Crassus was a greedy gold hoarder, but legionary eagles are a real loss.

[fern]

Yep.

I suppose that from Crassus silly military deployment comes the spanish expression "Craso error".

Ferdinand, pylum specialist.

[lkaufman]

CM 3000 is a very good piece of programming. Some atributes it to Kittinger, some other to the Spracklen. In any case play a very strong game in current machinery.
I dare to say any one of these old DOS engines circa 1990 are, these days, 2200 or so level players.

Heard that Crassus is going to massacre in Carrhae regards
Fern

I can tell you that the engines Don and I wrote around 1990 or so, running on my then state of the art 25 MHz 486, were definitely of human master (say at least 2300 FIDE or so) strength, and in rapid chess (game 30' or so) scored decently against Grandmasters in the Harvard Cup events.

[Laskos]

CM 3000 is a very good piece of programming. Some atributes it to Kittinger, some other to the Spracklen. In any case play a very strong game in current machinery.
I dare to say any one of these old DOS engines circa 1990 are, these days, 2200 or so level players.

Heard that Crassus is going to massacre in Carrhae regards
Fern

I can tell you that the engines Don and I wrote around 1990 or so, running on my then state of the art 25 MHz 486, were definitely of human master (say at least 2300 FIDE or so) strength, and in rapid chess (game 30' or so) scored decently against Grandmasters in the Harvard Cup events.

This list
http://www.anacadigital.com/dedicados/listaelo1992.html
is consistently inflated compared to SSDF list by 150 ELO points.
http://ssdf.bosjo.net/long.txt
You say that 2300 FIDE is a realistic ELO for a top 1991-2 engine on PC and 68030 (Motorola)? Then, the first list is correct (it has 6 thousands games against humans) and SSDF is deflated in this range by 150 ELO points. Interesting. When comparing to humans, I need faithful anchor ratings.

[Leto]

How much of a time handicap does Gideon need to play stronger (let's say a score of at least 55%) than Komodo 9.2?

[Laskos]

How much of a time handicap does Gideon need to play stronger (let's say a score of at least 55%) than Komodo 9.2?

It depends on Gideon's time control. For Gideon on one core at 40/2 minutes the handicap is a factor of 60, at 40/4 hours the handicap factor is close to 1,000. Depends on hardware too, similarly to time control.

[mjlef]

CM 3000 is a very good piece of programming. Some atributes it to Kittinger, some other to the Spracklen. In any case play a very strong game in current machinery.
I dare to say any one of these old DOS engines circa 1990 are, these days, 2200 or so level players.

Heard that Crassus is going to massacre in Carrhae regards
Fern

I believe the engines in CM 2000 through CM3000 were written by Kittinger. Fo CM 40000, it was Johan de Koning:

https://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Chessmaster