Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

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beram
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

WuShock wrote:Thanks Bram for taking the time , and making the effort to post your results...... I enjoy looking thru various tests , and checking out results......

Keep up your good work ,

Tom Glenn

**** Happy 2015 to everyone , let's all hope for more love in the world in the new year *****
Thx Tom, I agree on your best wishes

and than now latest result for SF 020115 and results for SF 221214MZ (54games) at LTC 30m20s

SF 221214MZ - Komodo8, Blitz 3m+2s (100games)
1 SF221214MZ x64 AVX POPCNT +45 +33/=47/-20 56.50% 56.5/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -45 +20/=47/-33 43.50% 43.5/100

SF 221214MZ - Komodo8, Rapid 30m+20s (54 games)
1 SF221214MZ x64 AVX POPCNT +45 +15/=31/-8 56.48% 30.5/54
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -45 +8/=31/-15 43.52% 23.5/54

SF 020115 - Komodo8, Blitz 3m+2s (100games)
1 Stockfish 020115 64 BMI2 +49 +27/=60/-13 57.00% 57.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -49 +13/=60/-27 43.00% 43.0/100
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beram
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

beram wrote:Latest SF111214 is doing well against Komodo 8 in first test over 100 games TC3m2s SF scored 63,5% !
Earlier results with same book on same system, SF score was 57% and 58%

SF 211114 – Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s i5 4200M @2500Mhz, 2 cpu, 256Mb hash, (Fritzmark 5,1) privat openingbook 25 lines, colours reversed
1 Stockfish 211114 64 BMI2 +49 +30/=54/-16 57.00% 57.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -49 +16/=54/-30 43.00% 43.0/100

SF 101214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 101214 64 BMI2 +56 +31/=54/-15 58.00% 58.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -56 +15/=54/-31 42.00% 42.0/100

SF 111214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 111214 64 BMI2 +96 +40/=47/-13 63.50% 63.5/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -96 +13/=47/-40 36.50% 36.5/100
Perhaps it is now the right time for SF team to release the new SF 6
In my recent testing +60% is becoming a more common result for SF
Indicating a 70 ELO ahead in their matches under these conditions

See for instance last matches I ran yesterday and today

100 games with own privatbook 60 %
128 games with TCEC 7 final book again 60,16 %

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +70 +32/=56/-12 60.00% 60.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -70 +12/=56/-32 40.00% 40.0/100

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s (TCEC7finalbook)
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +72 +35/=84/-9 60.16% 77.0/128
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -72 +9/=84/-35 39.84% 51.0/128
(draw percentage 65,6%)
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beram
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

In my ongoing testmatches of SF devs against K8, the latest SFdev140115 got a nice 61% result with my privat 25 lines openingsbook at a moderate time control.
On my AMD 1090T it only lost 3 games and won 14 with 33 (66%) draws
At these rapid TC 15m10s a game on average lasts about 50 min. Where SF reaches about 30 ply in average middlegame position in 1 minute and K8 about 25 ply
Especially the games with Spanish opening line C92 and Sicilian B90 are opening lines in which SF feels like a fish in the water. When I look back in the last year SF scores overall 67-70% against Komodo in this C92 line (white and black combined)
Here are two nice demonstrative kingside attacking games by SF; a Spanish C92 with white and a B90 with black
And a nice positional win by K8 and a thematic one: knight with rook, against bishop with rook
Enjoy and judge by yourself

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SF 140115 - Komodo 8, Rapid 15m+10s            AMD 1090T @3200Mhz , 4cpu Fritzmark 15,6                                                            
1   Stockfish 140115 64   +78  +14/=33/-3 61.00%   30.5/50
2   Komodo 8 64-bit       -78  +3/=33/-14 39.00%   19.5/50
[pgn]
[Event "SF 140115 - Komodo 8, Rapid 15m+10s"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2015.01.16"]
[Round "30"]
[White "Komodo 8 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 140115 64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B90"]
[Annotator "0.00;0.00"]
[PlyCount "188"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=23.5 plies; 6.104kN/s B=30.
6 plies; 5.698kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Be3
Ng4 7. Bg5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Bg3 Bg7 10. Be2 h5 {Both last book move} 11. h4 {
[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:01:04]} gxh4 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:32]} 12. Bxh4 {
[%eval 0,21] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nc6 {[%eval 8,27] [%emt 0:00:27]} 13. Nb3 {[%eval
0,24] [%emt 0:01:40]} Be6 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:34] (Bxc3+)} 14. Qd2 {
[%eval 11,23] [%emt 0:00:25] (Kf1)} Rc8 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:30]} 15. f3 {
[%eval 25,24] [%emt 0:01:04]} Bh6 {[%eval 10,29] [%emt 0:00:28]} 16. Bg5 {
[%eval 21,25] [%emt 0:00:27]} Bxg5 {[%eval 21,30] [%emt 0:00:33]} 17. Qxg5 {
[%eval 28,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} Nf6 {[%eval 21,28] [%emt 0:00:25]} 18. Qd2 {
[%eval 22,25] [%emt 0:00:39]} Rg8 {[%eval 17,27] [%emt 0:00:26]} 19. Bf1 {
[%eval 23,24] [%emt 0:00:23]} Nb4 {[%eval 17,30] [%emt 0:01:44] (d5)} 20. a3 {
[%eval 47,21] [%emt 0:00:19] (Nd4)} Nc6 {[%eval 21,30] [%emt 0:00:26]} 21.
O-O-O {[%eval 33,22] [%emt 0:00:20]} b5 {[%eval 21,26] [%emt 0:00:24]} 22. Kb1
{[%eval 54,24] [%emt 0:01:46] (Rh4)} Qb6 {[%eval 27,28] [%emt 0:00:30]} 23. Qe1
{[%eval 41,22] [%emt 0:00:56] (Ne2)} Qc7 {[%eval 37,27] [%emt 0:01:07] (Qb7)}
24. g3 {[%eval 40,22] [%emt 0:01:32] (Rd2)} b4 {[%eval 10,28] [%emt 0:00:24]}
25. axb4 {[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:00:14]} Nxb4 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:26]} 26.
Rh2 {[%eval 6,21] [%emt 0:01:11] (Bh3)} Kf8 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:26] (Qb6)}
27. Rh4 {[%eval 29,22] [%emt 0:00:41] (Bh3)} Rb8 {[%eval -15,28] [%emt 0:00:26]
(Bxb3)} 28. Nd4 {[%eval 17,20] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qb6 {[%eval -9,29] [%emt 0:00:
58] (Bd7)} 29. b3 {[%eval 35,22] [%emt 0:01:04] (Nxe6+)} Nxc2 {[%eval 0,31]
[%emt 0:00:32] (Qc5)} 30. Nxe6+ {[%eval 40,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Kxc2)} fxe6 {
[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:29]} 31. Kxc2 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:18]} Qxb3+ {
[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:34]} 32. Kd2 {[%eval 39,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rc8 {
[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:16] (Qa3)} 33. Rc1 {[%eval 23,22] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rg5 {
[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:16]} 34. Qd1 {[%eval 5,23] [%emt 0:01:00] (Rc2)} Qb6 {
[%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:26] (Qa3)} 35. Qe2 {[%eval 17,19] [%emt 0:00:08] (Na4)}
Rc6 {[%eval -34,29] [%emt 0:00:27] (Qd4+)} 36. Qe3 {[%eval 0,21] [%emt 0:00:19]
} Rgc5 {[%eval -29,29] [%emt 0:00:27]} 37. Rf4 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:29]}
Kg7 {[%eval -46,32] [%emt 0:00:30] (Qb2+)} 38. Be2 {[%eval -10,22] [%emt 0:00:
17] (Bd3)} Qb2+ {[%eval -73,31] [%emt 0:00:25]} 39. Rc2 {[%eval -20,24] [%emt
0:00:13]} Qb3 {[%eval -86,33] [%emt 0:00:22]} 40. Bd1 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:00:
15]} Nd7 {[%eval -58,33] [%emt 0:00:31]} 41. e5 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:27]}
Nxe5 {[%eval -62,33] [%emt 0:00:49] (dxe5)} 42. Qd4 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:
08]} Kg8 {[%eval -53,31] [%emt 0:00:25] (Rc4)} 43. Qa4 {[%eval 30,19] [%emt 0:
00:07] (Rc1)} Nc4+ {[%eval -81,30] [%emt 0:00:19] (Qb6)} 44. Ke1 {[%eval 15,21]
[%emt 0:00:07]} Qb6 {[%eval -93,31] [%emt 0:00:52] (Re5+)} 45. Ne2 {[%eval 0,
22] [%emt 0:00:24] (Rg2)} Ra5 {[%eval -93,30] [%emt 0:00:23]} 46. Qxc6 {[%eval
0,24] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qxc6 {[%eval -100,32] [%emt 0:00:32]} 47. Rcxc4 {[%eval
0,25] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qb7 {[%eval -106,30] [%emt 0:00:18]} 48. Rb4 {[%eval 0,
22] [%emt 0:00:06] (Ba4)} Rb5 {[%eval -106,30] [%emt 0:00:21]} 49. Rxb5 {
[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qxb5 {[%eval -112,30] [%emt 0:00:36]} 50. Bc2 {
[%eval -16,22] [%emt 0:00:31]} e5 {[%eval -103,29] [%emt 0:00:15]} 51. Rf5 {
[%eval -9,22] [%emt 0:00:08] (Re4)} Qa5+ {[%eval -137,26] [%emt 0:00:17] (h4)}
52. Kf1 {[%eval -42,23] [%emt 0:00:17] (Kd1)} Qa3 {[%eval -163,26] [%emt 0:00:
16]} 53. Rg5+ {[%eval -55,24] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kf8 {[%eval -198,26] [%emt 0:00:
17]} 54. Rf5+ {[%eval -65,24] [%emt 0:00:14]} Ke8 {[%eval -234,28] [%emt 0:00:
28]} 55. Be4 {[%eval -91,24] [%emt 0:00:20] (Kg2)} e6 {[%eval -201,28] [%emt 0:
00:20]} 56. Rxh5 {[%eval -100,24] [%emt 0:00:20] (Rg5)} d5 {[%eval -240,28]
[%emt 0:00:14]} 57. Bg6+ {[%eval -93,23] [%emt 0:00:07]} Ke7 {[%eval -244,29]
[%emt 0:00:16]} 58. Rh7+ {[%eval -89,24] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kd6 {[%eval -256,31]
[%emt 0:00:23]} 59. Kg2 {[%eval -92,25] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qe3 {[%eval -269,29]
[%emt 0:00:12] (Qb2)} 60. Ng1 {[%eval -113,23] [%emt 0:00:08]} Qd2+ {[%eval
-288,29] [%emt 0:00:16]} 61. Kh1 {[%eval -137,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qg5 {[%eval
-312,30] [%emt 0:00:22]} 62. Bd3 {[%eval -154,23] [%emt 0:00:18]} a5 {[%eval
-320,30] [%emt 0:00:12]} 63. Ra7 {[%eval -153,24] [%emt 0:00:14]} Qxg3 {[%eval
-328,29] [%emt 0:00:16] (Qh6+)} 64. Ra6+ {[%eval -186,20] [%emt 0:00:12]} Ke7 {
[%eval -362,29] [%emt 0:00:21] (Kc7)} 65. Bf1 {[%eval -153,22] [%emt 0:00:08]}
Qe1 {[%eval -363,29] [%emt 0:00:16]} 66. Bh3 {[%eval -198,23] [%emt 0:00:18]}
d4 {[%eval -364,30] [%emt 0:00:14]} 67. Rxe6+ {[%eval -206,25] [%emt 0:00:14]}
Kf7 {[%eval -365,31] [%emt 0:00:09]} 68. Rd6 {[%eval -209,25] [%emt 0:00:29]}
a4 {[%eval -392,28] [%emt 0:00:18]} 69. Ra6 {[%eval -219,24] [%emt 0:00:17]}
Qb4 {[%eval -405,29] [%emt 0:00:24] (d3)} 70. Bf1 {[%eval -219,21] [%emt 0:00:
24]} a3 {[%eval -446,27] [%emt 0:00:09]} 71. Nh3 {[%eval -230,23] [%emt 0:00:
11]} Qb2 {[%eval -458,30] [%emt 0:00:10]} 72. Kg1 {[%eval -239,24] [%emt 0:00:
14] (Bc4+)} Ke7 {[%eval -452,32] [%emt 0:00:09]} 73. Bc4 {[%eval -243,25]
[%emt 0:00:11]} Qc1+ {[%eval -443,31] [%emt 0:00:11] (Qc3)} 74. Kg2 {[%eval
-289,24] [%emt 0:00:14] (Bf1)} Qxc4 {[%eval -478,36] [%emt 0:00:09]} 75. Rxa3 {
[%eval -340,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} d3 {[%eval -550,36] [%emt 0:00:08]} 76. Ra7+ {
[%eval -377,25] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nf2)} Kd6 {[%eval -610,36] [%emt 0:00:21] (Kf8)
} 77. Nf2 {[%eval -379,24] [%emt 0:00:13]} d2 {[%eval -739,33] [%emt 0:00:11]}
78. Ra8 {[%eval -387,26] [%emt 0:00:04] (Ra1)} Kd7 {[%eval -687,34] [%emt 0:00:
11] (Qh4)} 79. Rh8 {[%eval -387,26] [%emt 0:00:06] (Ra1)} Qe2 {[%eval -914,34]
[%emt 0:00:09] (Qf4)} 80. Rh7+ {[%eval -383,26] [%emt 0:00:13] (Rh1)} Kc6 {
[%eval -922,34] [%emt 0:00:08] (Kd6)} 81. Rh1 {[%eval -384,24] [%emt 0:00:04]
(Rh6+)} Qe1 {[%eval -1273,31] [%emt 0:00:09] (Kc5)} 82. Rh6+ {[%eval -385,26]
[%emt 0:00:14]} Kc5 {[%eval -1397,30] [%emt 0:00:07]} 83. Rh5 {[%eval -386,27]
[%emt 0:00:10]} Kc4 {[%eval -1818,30] [%emt 0:00:07] (Qe2)} 84. Rh4+ {[%eval
-388,25] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kb3 {[%eval -2287,32] [%emt 0:00:09]} 85. Rh1 {[%eval
-415,27] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kc3 {[%eval -2984,31] [%emt 0:00:09]} 86. Rh8 {[%eval
-424,25] [%emt 0:00:04]} d1=Q {[%eval -3978,34] [%emt 0:00:12]} 87. Nxd1+ {
[%eval -454,25] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qxd1 {[%eval -6481,37] [%emt 0:00:08]} 88. Rc8+
{[%eval -474,26] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kb4 {[%eval -6481,38] [%emt 0:00:09]} 89. Rb8+
{[%eval -536,26] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kc5 {[%eval -4899,35] [%emt 0:00:10]} 90. Rc8+
{[%eval -553,26] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kb5 {[%eval -6558,36] [%emt 0:00:13]} 91. Rb8+
{[%eval -591,25] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kc6 {[%eval -6671,36] [%emt 0:00:10]} 92. Rb2
{[%eval -823,25] [%emt 0:00:22] (Rf8)} Kc5 {[%eval -7768,37] [%emt 0:00:10]}
93. Ra2 {[%eval -1069,26] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kd4 {[%eval -8562,38] [%emt 0:00:08]
(Qd3)} 94. Kf2 {[%eval -25000,25] [%emt 0:00:05] (Ra3)} e4 {[%eval -32729,39]
[%emt 0:00:09]} 0-1
[/pgn]
[pgn]
[Event "SF 070115 - Komodo 8, Rapid 15m+10s"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2015.01.17"]
[Round "45"]
[White "Stockfish 140115 64"]
[Black "Komodo 8 64-bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C92"]
[Annotator "-0.06;0.00"]
[PlyCount "73"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=32.0 plies; 5.387kN/s B=25.
1 plies; 5.977kN/s} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1
b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. a4 h6 13. Bc2 exd4
14. cxd4 Nb4 15. Bb1 c5 {Both last book move} 16. d5 {[%eval -6,27] [%emt 0:00:
57]} g6 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:00:48] (Nd7)} 17. Nf1 {[%eval 21,30] [%emt 0:00:
40]} Bg7 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:01:09]} 18. axb5 {[%eval 25,30] [%emt 0:00:39]}
axb5 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:00:14]} 19. Rxa8 {[%eval 17,31] [%emt 0:00:46]} Qxa8
{[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:44]} 20. Bf4 {[%eval 16,29] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qa6 {
[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:01:34] (Qd8)} 21. Qc1 {[%eval 20,30] [%emt 0:00:27]} Kh7 {
[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:43]} 22. Ng3 {[%eval 29,30] [%emt 0:01:03] (Bd2)} Qb6 {
[%eval -4,25] [%emt 0:01:02] (Ra8)} 23. Bd2 {[%eval 36,28] [%emt 0:00:46]} Ra8
{[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:33]} 24. b3 {[%eval 34,30] [%emt 0:00:42] (Bc3)} Nd7 {
[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:24] (Ra6)} 25. Nh5 {[%eval 60,29] [%emt 0:00:27]} Bh8 {
[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:31]} 26. Bxh6 {[%eval 140,28] [%emt 0:00:52]} Ne5 {
[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:22] (Qd8)} 27. Qf4 {[%eval 255,32] [%emt 0:00:28]
(Nxe5)} gxh5 {[%eval 280,21] [%emt 0:00:30]} 28. Re3 {[%eval 518,33] [%emt 0:
01:38]} Rg8 {[%eval 304,23] [%emt 0:00:36]} 29. Ng5+ {[%eval 589,32] [%emt 0:
00:29] (Nxe5)} Rxg5 {[%eval 246,23] [%emt 0:00:13]} 30. Qxg5 {[%eval 606,33]
[%emt 0:00:25]} Ng6 {[%eval 520,24] [%emt 0:00:56]} 31. Rf3 {[%eval 646,34]
[%emt 0:00:26]} Qc7 {[%eval 555,24] [%emt 0:00:14]} 32. e5 {[%eval 682,34]
[%emt 0:00:28]} Bxe5 {[%eval 624,26] [%emt 0:01:10]} 33. Bf8 {[%eval 705,34]
[%emt 0:00:24]} Bxd5 {[%eval 650,27] [%emt 0:00:48] (Kg8)} 34. Bxg6+ {[%eval
885,37] [%emt 0:00:33]} fxg6 {[%eval 699,28] [%emt 0:00:25]} 35. Qh6+ {[%eval
918,37] [%emt 0:00:29]} Kg8 {[%eval 720,29] [%emt 0:00:29]} 36. Qxg6+ {[%eval
937,38] [%emt 0:00:27]} Bg7 {[%eval 751,27] [%emt 0:00:20]} 37. Rf5 {[%eval
977,38] [%emt 0:00:24]} 1-0
[/pgn]
[pgn]
[Event "SF 140115 - Komodo 8, Rapid 15m+10s"]
[Site "AMD X6 1090T 3200 Mhz (Fritzm"]
[Date "2015.01.16"]
[Round "18"]
[White "Komodo 8 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 140115 64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[Annotator "0.09;0.13"]
[PlyCount "131"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor 3207 MHz W=25.1 plies; 6.679kN/s B=32.
5 plies; 6.090kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Nf6 6. Be3
Bg4 7. dxc5 Qxd1+ 8. Kxd1 Nd5 {Both last book move} 9. Nbd2 {[%eval 9,21]
[%emt 0:00:39]} e5 {[%eval 13,24] [%emt 0:00:24]} 10. h3 {[%eval 8,24] [%emt 0:
00:32]} Nxe3+ {[%eval 6,28] [%emt 0:00:34] (Bd7)} 11. fxe3 {[%eval 14,22]
[%emt 0:00:10]} Bxf3+ {[%eval 8,30] [%emt 0:00:17]} 12. Nxf3 {[%eval 13,24]
[%emt 0:00:17]} Bxc5 {[%eval 6,30] [%emt 0:00:17]} 13. e4 {[%eval 19,25] [%emt
0:00:49]} O-O-O+ {[%eval 11,30] [%emt 0:00:29]} 14. Kc2 {[%eval 16,23] [%emt 0:
00:19]} f6 {[%eval 13,28] [%emt 0:00:17]} 15. b4 {[%eval 19,24] [%emt 0:00:26]
(Bc4)} Bf2 {[%eval 11,29] [%emt 0:00:41] (Be3)} 16. Nd2 {[%eval 25,21] [%emt 0:
00:15] (Bc4)} Ne7 {[%eval 11,28] [%emt 0:00:26] (h5)} 17. Bc4 {[%eval 30,23]
[%emt 0:00:30]} Kb8 {[%eval 13,30] [%emt 0:00:41] (Kc7)} 18. Rad1 {[%eval 29,
24] [%emt 0:00:33] (a4)} Kc7 {[%eval 12,31] [%emt 0:00:59] (Be3)} 19. a4 {
[%eval 32,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} Rd6 {[%eval 12,32] [%emt 0:00:17] (Ng6)} 20. Nb3
{[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:30] (Rhf1)} Rxd1 {[%eval 13,31] [%emt 0:00:37]} 21.
Rxd1 {[%eval 33,25] [%emt 0:01:00] (Kxd1)} Rd8 {[%eval 9,32] [%emt 0:00:18]}
22. Ra1 {[%eval 33,27] [%emt 0:01:14]} Be3 {[%eval 14,31] [%emt 0:00:33]} 23.
a5 {[%eval 32,24] [%emt 0:00:35]} Kb8 {[%eval 12,30] [%emt 0:00:22] (Kc6)} 24.
Re1 {[%eval 39,25] [%emt 0:00:58] (g3)} Bg5 {[%eval 24,29] [%emt 0:00:40] (Bh6)
} 25. g3 {[%eval 48,24] [%emt 0:00:24]} b6 {[%eval 29,30] [%emt 0:00:49]} 26.
Be6 {[%eval 38,24] [%emt 0:00:29] (b5)} Rd6 {[%eval 19,30] [%emt 0:00:25] (Kc7)
} 27. Bf7 {[%eval 36,24] [%emt 0:00:17] (Bg4)} Kc7 {[%eval 26,28] [%emt 0:00:
27]} 28. b5 {[%eval 48,24] [%emt 0:01:31]} bxa5 {[%eval 30,30] [%emt 0:01:06]
(Rd7)} 29. Nxa5 {[%eval 57,24] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rd2+ {[%eval 50,30] [%emt 0:00:
49]} 30. Kb3 {[%eval 56,25] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rd3 {[%eval 71,29] [%emt 0:00:26]}
31. h4 {[%eval 49,26] [%emt 0:01:22] (Nc4)} Bh6 {[%eval 37,32] [%emt 0:00:40]}
32. Be6 {[%eval 36,24] [%emt 0:00:27]} Be3 {[%eval 30,34] [%emt 0:00:29] (Rd6)}
33. Bc4 {[%eval 54,26] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bf2 {[%eval 38,34] [%emt 0:00:26]} 34.
Rf1 {[%eval 53,26] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rd2 {[%eval 31,36] [%emt 0:00:33]} 35. Be6 {
[%eval 53,25] [%emt 0:00:21]} Bc5 {[%eval 28,35] [%emt 0:00:25]} 36. h5 {
[%eval 53,25] [%emt 0:00:16]} h6 {[%eval 34,34] [%emt 0:00:35]} 37. Kc4 {
[%eval 53,25] [%emt 0:00:18]} Be3 {[%eval 21,31] [%emt 0:00:20]} 38. Kb4 {
[%eval 57,25] [%emt 0:00:33] (Rb1)} Rb2+ {[%eval 18,32] [%emt 0:00:20]} 39. Nb3
{[%eval 60,25] [%emt 0:00:28]} Nc8 {[%eval 16,31] [%emt 0:00:22]} 40. c4 {
[%eval 84,26] [%emt 0:01:02] (Ra1)} Nd6 {[%eval 26,32] [%emt 0:00:22]} 41. Bd5
{[%eval 83,24] [%emt 0:00:09]} Nb7 {[%eval 40,31] [%emt 0:00:31]} 42. Bxb7 {
[%eval 83,24] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kxb7 {[%eval 33,31] [%emt 0:00:26]} 43. c5 {
[%eval 85,26] [%emt 0:00:34] (Ra1)} Rc2 {[%eval 20,32] [%emt 0:00:18] (a6)} 44.
Rd1 {[%eval 96,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kc8 {[%eval 76,31] [%emt 0:00:25]} 45. Rd5 {
[%eval 86,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} Bf2 {[%eval 99,30] [%emt 0:00:19] (Re2)} 46. c6 {
[%eval 89,23] [%emt 0:00:10]} Be1+ {[%eval 118,31] [%emt 0:00:42]} 47. Ka3 {
[%eval 94,25] [%emt 0:00:07]} Bf2 {[%eval 98,32] [%emt 0:00:20]} 48. Na5 {
[%eval 141,26] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rc3+ {[%eval 101,34] [%emt 0:00:23]} 49. Kb4 {
[%eval 143,24] [%emt 0:00:12] (Kb2)} Be1 {[%eval 139,30] [%emt 0:00:24]} 50.
Ka4 {[%eval 145,25] [%emt 0:00:06]} Re3 {[%eval 164,30] [%emt 0:00:15]} 51. Nc4
{[%eval 175,24] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rxe4 {[%eval 240,32] [%emt 0:00:18]} 52. Kb3 {
[%eval 196,24] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rd4 {[%eval 307,33] [%emt 0:00:23]} 53. Nd6+ {
[%eval 199,25] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kd8 {[%eval 296,33] [%emt 0:00:28] (Kc7)} 54.
Rxd4 {[%eval 212,28] [%emt 0:00:15]} exd4 {[%eval 421,36] [%emt 0:00:24]} 55.
Kc4 {[%eval 212,30] [%emt 0:00:09] (Nf5)} Bxg3 {[%eval 240,38] [%emt 0:00:14]}
56. Nf5 {[%eval 212,27] [%emt 0:00:05]} Be5 {[%eval 456,38] [%emt 0:00:28] (d3)
} 57. Nxg7 {[%eval 252,28] [%emt 0:00:25]} Kc7 {[%eval 583,41] [%emt 0:00:28]}
58. Ne6+ {[%eval 269,29] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kd6 {[%eval 574,41] [%emt 0:00:34]}
59. Nxd4 {[%eval 275,27] [%emt 0:00:05]} Bf4 {[%eval 592,39] [%emt 0:00:13]}
60. Kd3 {[%eval 296,28] [%emt 0:00:10]} Bg5 {[%eval 591,41] [%emt 0:00:26]} 61.
Ke4 {[%eval 340,27] [%emt 0:00:06]} Bc1 {[%eval 592,39] [%emt 0:00:10] (Ke7)}
62. Nf5+ {[%eval 404,28] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kc7 {[%eval 584,42] [%emt 0:00:11]
(Ke6)} 63. Ng7 {[%eval 540,28] [%emt 0:00:23]} Bd2 {[%eval 930,37] [%emt 0:00:
34] (Bg5)} 64. Ne8+ {[%eval 668,28] [%emt 0:00:22] (Kf5)} Kd8 {[%eval 1485,35]
[%emt 0:00:17] (Kb6)} 65. Nxf6 {[%eval 707,25] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kc8 {[%eval
1977,31] [%emt 0:00:14] (Kc7)} 66. Kf5 {[%eval 406,25] [%emt 0:00:18]} 1-0
[/pgn]
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by Adam Hair »

beram wrote:
beram wrote:Latest SF111214 is doing well against Komodo 8 in first test over 100 games TC3m2s SF scored 63,5% !
Earlier results with same book on same system, SF score was 57% and 58%

SF 211114 – Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s i5 4200M @2500Mhz, 2 cpu, 256Mb hash, (Fritzmark 5,1) privat openingbook 25 lines, colours reversed
1 Stockfish 211114 64 BMI2 +49 +30/=54/-16 57.00% 57.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -49 +16/=54/-30 43.00% 43.0/100

SF 101214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 101214 64 BMI2 +56 +31/=54/-15 58.00% 58.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -56 +15/=54/-31 42.00% 42.0/100

SF 111214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 111214 64 BMI2 +96 +40/=47/-13 63.50% 63.5/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -96 +13/=47/-40 36.50% 36.5/100
Perhaps it is now the right time for SF team to release the new SF 6
In my recent testing +60% is becoming a more common result for SF
Indicating a 70 ELO ahead in their matches under these conditions

See for instance last matches I ran yesterday and today

100 games with own privatbook 60 %
128 games with TCEC 7 final book again 60,16 %

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +70 +32/=56/-12 60.00% 60.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -70 +12/=56/-32 40.00% 40.0/100

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s (TCEC7finalbook)
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +72 +35/=84/-9 60.16% 77.0/128
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -72 +9/=84/-35 39.84% 51.0/128
(draw percentage 65,6%)
Hi Bram. Could you explain how the TCEC final book was created? I want to make sure that I interpret the draw rate for that match correctly.
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

Adam Hair wrote:
beram wrote:
beram wrote:Latest SF111214 is doing well against Komodo 8 in first test over 100 games TC3m2s SF scored 63,5% !
Earlier results with same book on same system, SF score was 57% and 58%

SF 211114 – Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s i5 4200M @2500Mhz, 2 cpu, 256Mb hash, (Fritzmark 5,1) privat openingbook 25 lines, colours reversed
1 Stockfish 211114 64 BMI2 +49 +30/=54/-16 57.00% 57.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -49 +16/=54/-30 43.00% 43.0/100

SF 101214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 101214 64 BMI2 +56 +31/=54/-15 58.00% 58.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -56 +15/=54/-31 42.00% 42.0/100

SF 111214 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 111214 64 BMI2 +96 +40/=47/-13 63.50% 63.5/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -96 +13/=47/-40 36.50% 36.5/100
Perhaps it is now the right time for SF team to release the new SF 6
In my recent testing +60% is becoming a more common result for SF
Indicating a 70 ELO ahead in their matches under these conditions

See for instance last matches I ran yesterday and today

100 games with own privatbook 60 %
128 games with TCEC 7 final book again 60,16 %

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +70 +32/=56/-12 60.00% 60.0/100
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -70 +12/=56/-32 40.00% 40.0/100

SF 070115 - K8, Blitz 3m+2s (TCEC7finalbook)
1 Stockfish 070115 64 BMI2 +72 +35/=84/-9 60.16% 77.0/128
2 Komodo 8 64-bit -72 +9/=84/-35 39.84% 51.0/128
(draw percentage 65,6%)
Hi Bram. Could you explain how the TCEC final book was created? I want to make sure that I interpret the draw rate for that match correctly.
I don't know anything more than you as can be read on the TCEC site
I just quote from there:
''The 32 openings that will be seen in Season 7’s Superfinal have been selected by IM Erik Kislik, one of the world’s top (and hardest-working) opening theorists, a chess teacher, writer and advisor to grandmasters. After a lively email exchange during last Season we agreed in principle that the Superfinal’s openings should be carefully hand-selected and well diversified by “pawn structures”. Not being much of a chess player myself, it seemed logical to delegate this task to Erik, which he graciously undertook. Erik will expound on his selection philosophy in a separate communication as we get closer to the Superfinal...''

I have than extracted from the TCECfinal, the TCEC final book myself, also to examine whether the book was really a bit (too) drawish or not
As far as I can say from using it with testing at Blitz TC3m2s, 66% draws looks pretty drawish :wink:
My privatbook gives about 56% most of the times at that TC
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by Adam Hair »

Thanks Bram. I am involved with the TCEC books also, and so I am interested in your results with these positions.
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

first results for the SF 6RC1 are not that good as earlier recent SF dev results
200 games on i5 4200M and 50 games on the AMD1090T, 57,25% and 56%

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SF 6RC1  - K8, Blitz 3m+2s  i5 4200M @2500Mhz, 2 cpu Fritzmark 5,1 
                                   
1   Stockfish 6 RC1 64 BMI2   +51  +63/=103/-34 57.25%  114.5/200
2   Komodo 8 64-bit           -51  +34/=103/-63 42.75%   85.5/200


SF6 RC1 - Komodo 8, Blitz 3m+2s, AMD 1090T @3200Mhz, 4cpu Fritzm. 15,6                                                             
1   Stockfish 6 RC1 64  +14/=28/-8 56.00%   28.0/50
2   Komodo 8 64-bit     +8/=28/-14 44.00%   22.0/50
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by ernest »

beram wrote:first results for the SF 6RC1 are not that good as earlier recent SF dev results
??? based on a 50-game match !!! :shock: :o :shock:
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by Carlos777 »

ernest wrote:
beram wrote:first results for the SF 6RC1 are not that good as earlier recent SF dev results
??? based on a 50-game match !!! :shock: :o :shock:
Also based in 200 games just above that match. :wink:

Thanks for sharing your results Bram!

Have you tested SF 6? According to your tests, which one is the strongest SF? I see 111214 got a great result against K8.
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Re: Latest SFdev vs Komodo 8

Post by beram »

Carlos777 wrote:
ernest wrote:
beram wrote:first results for the SF 6RC1 are not that good as earlier recent SF dev results
??? based on a 50-game match !!! :shock: :o :shock:
Also based in 200 games just above that match. :wink:

Thanks for sharing your results Bram!

Have you tested SF 6? According to your tests, which one is the strongest SF? I see 111214 got a great result against K8.
Thx Carlos, I have been away skiing in the Alps
First test of SF 6 release is underway now
As for your question which SFdev is strongest I would say the last SF dev is most probably the best
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