Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

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Paloma
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

Post by Paloma »

What about the first unsolved Position ?
3) Ff4-e3 ____ Ff4-h6 ____ 8/2b2k1K/1pPp1p2/1P1P1P2/5B2/8/8/8 w - - bm Be3

There were 62 unsolved positions

One question, on Pos. with short solution time (e.g. 0, 5, 15 sec.) hold the engine the move longer, or would it be possible the move switched to another?

This means - allows your "Testsuite"-GUI some "Extra ply" like in Fritz GUI ?
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

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Paloma wrote:What about the first unsolved Position ?
3) Ff4-e3 ____ Ff4-h6 ____ 8/2b2k1K/1pPp1p2/1P1P1P2/5B2/8/8/8 w - - bm Be3
This one is a bit special, the key moveis the move number 3 : Bxh6! SF found it in the test. For more informations, see here : http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... #pid525938
Paloma wrote:One question, on Pos. with short solution time (e.g. 0, 5, 15 sec.) hold the engine the move longer, or would it be possible the move switched to another?

This means - allows your "Testsuite"-GUI some "Extra ply" like in Fritz GUI ?
All the run was done with full time, all the key moves have to be selected until the end.
Thanks for your interest !
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

Post by Paloma »

Nr. 96: 7k/8/4N3/4NN2/n2K4/8/8/3n4 w - - bm Kc4; c0 "mate in 21"; c1 "diff=9";

is not mate in 21 - Lomonosov TB's says DRAW
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... pid=526505

[FEN "7k/8/4N3/4NN2/n2K4/8/8/3n4 w - -"] 1.Ne7 1/2-1/2

<Moves>
Nf5e7 0; Nf5g7 0; Nf5h6 0; Nf5h4 0; Nf5g3 0; Nf5e3 0; Nf5d6 0; Ne6d8 0
</Moves>
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

Post by Vinvin »

Thanks ! I'll take out this one.
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

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Added : 1 hours position, Stockfish_14112600_x64_modern
Config : 6 cores 4 GHz
6 more is found, 19 on 61 found

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Solution	          1h on 6cores                15 min on 6cores
  1) Re5                c3-c4                       c3-c4    
  2) Te3-e8             Cc4-d2                      Cc4-d2    
  3) Tc8xc7             Rg7-f7                      Rg7-f7    
  4) e3-e4              a2-a3                       a2-a3    
  5) Rh2-g3             Df6-f4                      Df6-f4    
  6) Fc2-a4             e5xf6                       c3-c4    
  7) Td6xf6             De5-d4                      De5-d4    
  8) Cf3-d4             Cf3-d4  * 36 Secondes       Cf3-d4  * 24 Secondes 
  9) Tf1xf6             Tf1xf6  * 2151 Secondes     Fd4-a7    
 10) .. Cb5-c3          Tb8-a8                      Tb8-a8    
 11) Dd8-a8             Dd8-f8                      Dd8-f8    
 12) Ca5-b3             Cd4xc2                      Cd4xc2    
 13) .. Cb6-c4          Cb6-c4  * 447 Secondes      a7-a5    
 14) f5-f6              Dd1-g4                      Rg1-h1    
 15) Df3-f6             Df3-f6  * 583 Secondes      Df3-f6  * 408 Secondes 
 16) .. Ff5-c8          Cb8-c6                      Cb8-c6    
 17) Te8xe5             Te8-e7                      Te8-e7    
 18) Df5-e6             Tf7xc7                      Tf7xc7    
 19) Fc4-e2             Fc4-e2  * 3185 Secondes     Fc4-f1    
 20) Cf4-d3             Cf4-d3  * 826 Secondes      Cf4-d3  * 171 Secondes 
 21) .. Tc5-b5(?)       Tc5-c4  * 197 Secondes      Tc5-c4  * 681 Secondes 
 22) h4-h5              h4-h5   * 1766 Secondes     h4-h5   * 246 Secondes 
 23) .. Ff5-h3          Ff5-h3  * 2666 Secondes     Ff5-e4    
 24) Draw               Rf6-e5                      Rf6-e5    
 25) Fh5-f3             Fh5-f3  * 292 Secondes      Cc3-b5    
 26) c4-c5              b4-b5                       c4-c5   * 0 Secondes 
 27) Fd3xh7             Fd3xh7  * 970 Secondes      Tf1-f3    
 28) Fd4-f6             Fd4-f6  * 1705 Secondes     Dh5-h6    
 29) Dd2-f4             Dd2-f4  * 498 Secondes      Dd2-f4  * 295 Secondes 
 30) h3-h4              h3-h4   * 0 Secondes        h3-h4   * 15 Secondes 
 31) Rc6-d5             Rc6-d7                      Rc6-d7    
 32) e5-e6              Fb1-f5                      Fb1-f5    
 33) .. e6-e5           Cd7-f6                      Cd7-f6    
 34) .. Tc2xf2          Tc2xf2  * 317 Secondes      Tc2xf2  * 99 Secondes 
 35) Fd6-f8             Tg8-f8                      Tg8-f8    
 36) Cg4-f6             Cg4xe3                      Cg4-f6  * 713 Secondes 
 37) .. f7-f6           Fc1xg5                      Fc1xg5    
 38) Tf1-b1             Tf1-d1                      Tf1-a1    
 39) Cf2xe4             Cf2-g4                      Cf2-g4    
 40) f2-f4              Ca8-c7                      Ca8-c7    
 41) .. Fg7-h6          Fg7-h6  * 112 Secondes      Fg7-h6  * 5 Secondes 
 42) Cd5-f6             Tf1-d1                      Tf1-d1    
 43) Dg5-h6             Dg5-h6  * 2310 Secondes     Dg5-h6  * 312 Secondes 
 44) .. Tb8xb3          Re7-d7                      Ta6-a8    
 45) f5-f6              c6-c7                       Td1-d5    
 46) Fg5-f4             Te7xd7                      Te7xd7    
 47) bad position, delete in next version
 48) Rg1-h2             Rg1-h2  * 938 Secondes      Tf2-f3    
 49) Fd8-c7             g6xh7                       g6xh7    
 50) .. e4-e3           e4-e3   * 2059 Secondes     e4-e3   * 245 Secondes 
 51) Tb8-b1             Tb8-h8                      Tb8-h8    
 52) Cf7-d6             Cf7-h6                      Cf7-h6    
 53) Ca4xb6(?)          Ca4xb6                      Ca4xb6    
 54) Cc2-d4             Rg2-f3                      Rg2-f3    
 55) Dd6xe5             Dd6-a3                      Dd6-a3    
 56) Rg3-h2             Rg3-f3                      Rg3-f3    
 57) Rg2-f3             Tc2xd2                      Tc2xd2    
 58) Rh4-h5             Df2xf3                      Df2xf3    
 59) h5xg6              Cd6-b7                      Cd6-b7    
 60) Rc1-d1             Fg2-f3                      Fg2-f3    
 61) h2-h3              Fc3-e1                      Fc3-e1    
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

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Vinvin wrote:Added : 1 hours position, Stockfish_14112600_x64_modern
Config : 6 cores 4 GHz
6 more is found, 19 on 61 found

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Solution	          1h on 6cores                15 min on 6cores
  1) Re5                c3-c4                       c3-c4    
  2) Te3-e8             Cc4-d2                      Cc4-d2    
  3) Tc8xc7             Rg7-f7                      Rg7-f7    
  4) e3-e4              a2-a3                       a2-a3    
  5) Rh2-g3             Df6-f4                      Df6-f4    
  6) Fc2-a4             e5xf6                       c3-c4    
  7) Td6xf6             De5-d4                      De5-d4    
  8) Cf3-d4             Cf3-d4  * 36 Secondes       Cf3-d4  * 24 Secondes 
  9) Tf1xf6             Tf1xf6  * 2151 Secondes     Fd4-a7    
 10) .. Cb5-c3          Tb8-a8                      Tb8-a8    
 11) Dd8-a8             Dd8-f8                      Dd8-f8    
 12) Ca5-b3             Cd4xc2                      Cd4xc2    
 13) .. Cb6-c4          Cb6-c4  * 447 Secondes      a7-a5    
 14) f5-f6              Dd1-g4                      Rg1-h1    
 15) Df3-f6             Df3-f6  * 583 Secondes      Df3-f6  * 408 Secondes 
 16) .. Ff5-c8          Cb8-c6                      Cb8-c6    
 17) Te8xe5             Te8-e7                      Te8-e7    
 18) Df5-e6             Tf7xc7                      Tf7xc7    
 19) Fc4-e2             Fc4-e2  * 3185 Secondes     Fc4-f1    
 20) Cf4-d3             Cf4-d3  * 826 Secondes      Cf4-d3  * 171 Secondes 
 21) .. Tc5-b5(?)       Tc5-c4  * 197 Secondes      Tc5-c4  * 681 Secondes 
 22) h4-h5              h4-h5   * 1766 Secondes     h4-h5   * 246 Secondes 
 23) .. Ff5-h3          Ff5-h3  * 2666 Secondes     Ff5-e4    
 24) Draw               Rf6-e5                      Rf6-e5    
 25) Fh5-f3             Fh5-f3  * 292 Secondes      Cc3-b5    
 26) c4-c5              b4-b5                       c4-c5   * 0 Secondes 
 27) Fd3xh7             Fd3xh7  * 970 Secondes      Tf1-f3    
 28) Fd4-f6             Fd4-f6  * 1705 Secondes     Dh5-h6    
 29) Dd2-f4             Dd2-f4  * 498 Secondes      Dd2-f4  * 295 Secondes 
 30) h3-h4              h3-h4   * 0 Secondes        h3-h4   * 15 Secondes 
 31) Rc6-d5             Rc6-d7                      Rc6-d7    
 32) e5-e6              Fb1-f5                      Fb1-f5    
 33) .. e6-e5           Cd7-f6                      Cd7-f6    
 34) .. Tc2xf2          Tc2xf2  * 317 Secondes      Tc2xf2  * 99 Secondes 
 35) Fd6-f8             Tg8-f8                      Tg8-f8    
 36) Cg4-f6             Cg4xe3                      Cg4-f6  * 713 Secondes 
 37) .. f7-f6           Fc1xg5                      Fc1xg5    
 38) Tf1-b1             Tf1-d1                      Tf1-a1    
 39) Cf2xe4             Cf2-g4                      Cf2-g4    
 40) f2-f4              Ca8-c7                      Ca8-c7    
 41) .. Fg7-h6          Fg7-h6  * 112 Secondes      Fg7-h6  * 5 Secondes 
 42) Cd5-f6             Tf1-d1                      Tf1-d1    
 43) Dg5-h6             Dg5-h6  * 2310 Secondes     Dg5-h6  * 312 Secondes 
 44) .. Tb8xb3          Re7-d7                      Ta6-a8    
 45) f5-f6              c6-c7                       Td1-d5    
 46) Fg5-f4             Te7xd7                      Te7xd7    
 47) bad position, delete in next version
 48) Rg1-h2             Rg1-h2  * 938 Secondes      Tf2-f3    
 49) Fd8-c7             g6xh7                       g6xh7    
 50) .. e4-e3           e4-e3   * 2059 Secondes     e4-e3   * 245 Secondes 
 51) Tb8-b1             Tb8-h8                      Tb8-h8    
 52) Cf7-d6             Cf7-h6                      Cf7-h6    
 53) Ca4xb6(?)          Ca4xb6                      Ca4xb6    
 54) Cc2-d4             Rg2-f3                      Rg2-f3    
 55) Dd6xe5             Dd6-a3                      Dd6-a3    
 56) Rg3-h2             Rg3-f3                      Rg3-f3    
 57) Rg2-f3             Tc2xd2                      Tc2xd2    
 58) Rh4-h5             Df2xf3                      Df2xf3    
 59) h5xg6              Cd6-b7                      Cd6-b7    
 60) Rc1-d1             Fg2-f3                      Fg2-f3    
 61) h2-h3              Fc3-e1                      Fc3-e1    
Stockfish can solve 1)
Not sure at what depth the move was found, but

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Mate in 13 [+] [*] 1. Re5 h6 2. Rf5 Kh7 3. Rf7 Re8 4. Be5+ Kg8 5. Rg7+ Qxg7 6. Bxg7 Re7 7. Qg4 Bf4 8. Qxf4 Nf6 9. Qxf6 Bg4 10. Qxe7 Kh7 11. Bf8+ Kg6 12. Qf6+ Kxh5 13. Qxh6# (depth 59, 3:13:50)
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

Post by Highluder »

Nice Tests.

It would be nice to have a short summery and a comparision to SF5.

Did somenone run this test against SF5? This would be interesting.
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Re: Puzzles set : Hard talkchess 2015 beta 1

Post by Vinvin »

Highluder wrote:Nice Tests.

It would be nice to have a short summery and a comparision to SF5.

Did somenone run this test against SF5? This would be interesting.
The latest version of the set is here : http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 413#605413
There will be some corrections and adjustments next week.