A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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GenoM wrote:I just saw that in the hurry I have missed a sentence in this paragraph:
Yuri Ospiov wrote: Vas: He did this after I declined to grant him rights to commercialize Strelka.

I never intent to release commercial Strelka. Convekta has had such an idea, but this idea got Vasik's veto. It was internal business between Convekta and Vasik. I have no any relation with this. And I have absolutely no regrets that this project was not carried out. I preffer to be free person.
Sorry.
Of course. No regrets whatsoever. That's why he asked Vas more than once to allow it. Because he preferred to be a free person no doubt.

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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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GenoM wrote:I just saw that in the hurry I have missed a sentence in this paragraph:
Yuri Ospiov wrote: Vas: He did this after I declined to grant him rights to commercialize Strelka.

I never intent to release commercial Strelka. Convekta has had such an idea, but this idea got Vasik's veto. It was internal business between Convekta and Vasik. I have no any relation with this. And I have absolutely no regrets that this project was not carried out. I preffer to be free person.
Sorry.

Geno, what means to be a free person? Are there any signs of late insight in the lines from O? Any signals of fear? And have you exact data of the identity of O? Age, profession, family? Nationality?
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Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!

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Andrej Sidorov wrote:Rolf, what about your identity information? Or you just anonymous psycho? You look like one.
That comes out of your Russian speech, so I cant change your impression, but I did never steel other people's software code. Never published such stuff. I not anon psycho but am professional psychologist.
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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Rolf wrote: Geno, what means to be a free person?
Hi Rolf. Different persons can give you different answers about this. For him this may be means that he can act as he wants to without restrictions of business contracts or so.
Rolf wrote: Are there any signs of late insight in the lines from O? Any signals of fear?
No signals of fear, IMO. I think he believes he's right.
Rolf wrote: And have you exact data of the identity of O? Age, profession, family? Nationality?
Would you give me $1000 if I give you an answer? :)

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Geno
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Thanks for the other side of the story :)
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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GenoM wrote:
Rolf wrote: Geno, what means to be a free person?
Hi Rolf. Different persons can give you different answers about this. For him this may be means that he can act as he wants to without restrictions of business contracts or so.
Rolf wrote: Are there any signs of late insight in the lines from O? Any signals of fear?
No signals of fear, IMO. I think he believes he's right.
Rolf wrote: And have you exact data of the identity of O? Age, profession, family? Nationality?
Would you give me $1000 if I give you an answer? :)

Regards,
Geno
Thanks for the friendly reply!

Yes, I made this offer and if you had watertight info material I tell you how ther procedure will follow. So far I can tell you that I will pass the info to Vas first of all. But dont think that he has anything to so with my step, it's mine alone. But after passing the info Vas must decide what to do and in that process I would propose that somehow O will then at least pay you the 1000$$ because you really ended that strange carreer for the best of the real O too. I promise you to be the then righteous receiver of the recompensation and if O is by chance bankrupt you will get the money from me personally, yes. Let's not make a juridical game out of this between us two. This is later all the task for Vasik alone. Is this ok for you? You have my email address in case you want to keep it secret? Just look into my profile. - NB if you are the anonymous O then we have a problem but we will solve that problem and I offer you my help for free. That's the least I can do.
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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Rolf wrote:
GenoM wrote:
Rolf wrote: Geno, what means to be a free person?
Hi Rolf. Different persons can give you different answers about this. For him this may be means that he can act as he wants to without restrictions of business contracts or so.
Rolf wrote: Are there any signs of late insight in the lines from O? Any signals of fear?
No signals of fear, IMO. I think he believes he's right.
Rolf wrote: And have you exact data of the identity of O? Age, profession, family? Nationality?
Would you give me $1000 if I give you an answer? :)

Regards,
Geno
Thanks for the friendly reply!

Yes, I made this offer and if you had watertight info material I tell you how ther procedure will follow. So far I can tell you that I will pass the info to Vas first of all. But dont think that he has anything to so with my step, it's mine alone. But after passing the info Vas must decide what to do and in that process I would propose that somehow O will then at least pay you the 1000$$ because you really ended that strange carreer for the best of the real O too. I promise you to be the then righteous receiver of the recompensation and if O is by chance bankrupt you will get the money from me personally, yes. Let's not make a juridical game out of this between us two. This is later all the task for Vasik alone. Is this ok for you? You have my email address in case you want to keep it secret? Just look into my profile. - NB if you are the anonymous O then we have a problem but we will solve that problem and I offer you my help for free. That's the least I can do.
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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Hi Rolf

sorry if you was cheated by my words but I was joking. I really have no any info about Osipov but even if I have such info I would not give it to anyone without his permission.

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Geno
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement

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GenoM wrote:Hi Rolf

sorry if you was cheated by my words but I was joking. I really have no any info about Osipov but even if I have such info I would not give it to anyone without his permission.

Regards,
Geno
dont worry. You are very honest with your positions. I would also always consider that I got permission, just like O got permission from Vas. I would see a big unfairness if someone ever would reproach you your little smiles towards the naivety of certain Westerners who still believed that in computerchess we spoke a common language. It's much cheaper to steel than to invest hard work into your life record. Also if your law condones such stealing. Although Bulgaria stands under European Law. IMO.
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Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!

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Rolf wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
GenoM wrote:From KasparovChess forum:
http://kasparovchess.crestbook.com/view ... 65#p135465
Youri Osipov wrote: Vas: I've taken a look this morning at the Strelka 2.0 sources.

In early december Vasik already had the source code of the last version of Strelka. He himself wrote about this in rybkaforum.

Vas: Vast sections of these sources started their life as a decompiled Rybka 1.0.

If this is true then I am a genius. Thanks for the compliments.
So he wants to be recognized as a genius? Strange person. I guess if he can't make money from Strelka, this is the next best thing. Pretty sad.

Albert
You know what is really sad, that if this figure is a psycho nut then a court couldnt do anything. Look, he invited Vas for a cup of tea but didnt specify the city nor country where he's residing.
Rolf, he had in mind a virual cup of tea. You and me took a lot of them in the past. Remember?
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