you think you are disappointed Jon
Cameron is near suicide with the abysmal results for the Yeno i sent him
i am concerned for his well being
perhaps you should ring him up to see if all is OK regards
Steve
Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speakers?
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Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
He remains alive and well...
But like me he is now running short of ideas as to fill out the bottom end of his tournament line up.
Chessmaster Diamond is not sharp enough to cut the mustard Regards
Jonathan
But like me he is now running short of ideas as to fill out the bottom end of his tournament line up.
Chessmaster Diamond is not sharp enough to cut the mustard Regards
Jonathan
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
Well i still have this double in Semi-Holz...JonP01 wrote:He remains alive and well...
But like me he is now running short of ideas as to fill out the bottom end of his tournament line up.
Chessmaster Diamond is not sharp enough to cut the mustard Regards
Jonathan
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1280 Elo Regards
Steve
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
Steve
It's not his first taste of wood - but we live in a plastic world.
Cameron
It's not his first taste of wood - but we live in a plastic world.
Cameron
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
I think you're being a little hard on CM Diamond here. After 1...Bh5 2. g4 CM Diamond was probably looking at 2...Bd4+ and by the time the smoke clears the ply count is getting high for a unit that is after all only 1400 ELO or thereabouts. A computer weaker than CM Diamond may play 1...Bxf3 based on the luck of its heuristics and yet not be able to see as far as CM Diamond did after 1...Bh5. CM Diamond will see things that human 1400 ELO players miss and vice versa.
Cameron
Cameron
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
Hi Steve
It was touch and go for a while but time heals all wounds they say.
The Yeno makes CM Diamond look like Master of the Universe, so I must be thankful for small mercies.
Recovered Regards
Cameron
It was touch and go for a while but time heals all wounds they say.
The Yeno makes CM Diamond look like Master of the Universe, so I must be thankful for small mercies.
Recovered Regards
Cameron
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
I think from memory the continuation it envisaged was the check, followed by the bishop taking the knight on c3. It's actually a similar sort of oversight to the Petroff position above. In that case, if I deliberately change the position such that white has a pawn on c3 (preventing the intervening Bishop check), then CM does indeed correctly move it's Queen to e7 to protect the knight and counter the pin rather than just moving the pawn to d5.klute wrote:I think you're being a little hard on CM Diamond here. After 1...Bh5 2. g4 CM Diamond was probably looking at 2...Bd4+ and by the time the smoke clears the ply count is getting high for a unit that is after all only 1400 ELO or thereabouts. A computer weaker than CM Diamond may play 1...Bxf3 based on the luck of its heuristics and yet not be able to see as far as CM Diamond did after 1...Bh5. CM Diamond will see things that human 1400 ELO players miss and vice versa.
Cameron
I know I am being pretty critical, but the CM Diamond seems to fall victim to these sorts of unfortunate things ever other game or so. Then again, it did beat my Saitek Sensor XL when I set CM to game in 2 hours versus the Saitek on 30 seconds. But I suppose that is what you get with 1400 ELO. On the bright side, it's positional understanding is probably even better than it's tactical skills and it's endgame roughly commensurate as well.
Incidentally, I have actually worked out a way to logically swap the modules during play. And I have figured out how to tell the precise point when the module needs to be changed to P11. So it does seem I have found a way to make it play a game - at effectively 40 moves in 2 hours, with the relevant modules inserted at the correct times.
I could of course document this process but I still wonder exactly what the German manual recommends.
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
Steve
Hopefully Kurt or another native German speaker may hold the key to the mystery of automatic module changing indication by the CM Diamond. To use an analogy, we seem to be dealing with a former Eastern Bloc version of an Applied Concepts "Gruenfeld / Morphy / Capablanca"view of the world except with the "Morphy" already built-in so to speak. With all the features the CM Diamond boasts, I refuse to believe that it's not capable of signalling to a human when it wants the PM10 exchanged for the PM11. For it not to be capable of this would be ludicrous, yet the German manual is seemingly beyond comprehension on this point for English speakers.
To think I was quite pleased with the "B" grading I earned for my GMN285 German Reading Course at Uni ten years ago - but the exam consisted of translating German historical documents. What a cruel test it would have been if I'd been given a CM Diamond manual to translate instead!
Make Mine Modular Regards
Cameron
Hopefully Kurt or another native German speaker may hold the key to the mystery of automatic module changing indication by the CM Diamond. To use an analogy, we seem to be dealing with a former Eastern Bloc version of an Applied Concepts "Gruenfeld / Morphy / Capablanca"view of the world except with the "Morphy" already built-in so to speak. With all the features the CM Diamond boasts, I refuse to believe that it's not capable of signalling to a human when it wants the PM10 exchanged for the PM11. For it not to be capable of this would be ludicrous, yet the German manual is seemingly beyond comprehension on this point for English speakers.
To think I was quite pleased with the "B" grading I earned for my GMN285 German Reading Course at Uni ten years ago - but the exam consisted of translating German historical documents. What a cruel test it would have been if I'd been given a CM Diamond manual to translate instead!
Make Mine Modular Regards
Cameron
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
OK, here is the precise procedure I have followed to get CM to play effectively at 40 in 2 with openings book and endgame modules at the appropriate times (this example assumes the machine is black - but white would just involve some additional steps to turn the board around).
1. With the unit turned off, insert P10 module and set pieces up in their starting positions.
2. Turn the unit on and press the Monitor and View keys simultaneously.
3. Press the View button, followed by the Function button, followed by the Move Fore button. The display should now read "THEO".
4. Begin the game playing white. As you make each move, check the display on the CM. If, when it replies, "THEO" remains in the display window, then the machine is still accessing moves from the P10 library.
5. At some point in the opening, when the machine replies, you will see the machine's display go blank. The machine will still provide a reply though. At this point, CM has just played it's last book move **
6. Before making your next move as white, press the View key followed by the Monitor key. Now press the Function key then press the Move Fore key three times. The display should now read "CH M". Now press the Enter key.
7. Physically remove the P10 module and insert the P11 module. After the insertion is complete, press the Monitor button.
8. Press the Match button then press the Move Back button. The display should now read "2H30". Press the Enter key.
9. Continue the game by making your next move as white.
Incidentally, I have even discovered how to change match time controls during the game. I thought this was impossible since the Match function blocks out all the other functions. But it is indeed possible. So if for some reason the game goes for an enormous number of moves and CM starts to run out of time and move too fast, it is possible to reset the time control once again.
And that is that Regards
Jonathan
** well that is my theory anyway.
1. With the unit turned off, insert P10 module and set pieces up in their starting positions.
2. Turn the unit on and press the Monitor and View keys simultaneously.
3. Press the View button, followed by the Function button, followed by the Move Fore button. The display should now read "THEO".
4. Begin the game playing white. As you make each move, check the display on the CM. If, when it replies, "THEO" remains in the display window, then the machine is still accessing moves from the P10 library.
5. At some point in the opening, when the machine replies, you will see the machine's display go blank. The machine will still provide a reply though. At this point, CM has just played it's last book move **
6. Before making your next move as white, press the View key followed by the Monitor key. Now press the Function key then press the Move Fore key three times. The display should now read "CH M". Now press the Enter key.
7. Physically remove the P10 module and insert the P11 module. After the insertion is complete, press the Monitor button.
8. Press the Match button then press the Move Back button. The display should now read "2H30". Press the Enter key.
9. Continue the game by making your next move as white.
Incidentally, I have even discovered how to change match time controls during the game. I thought this was impossible since the Match function blocks out all the other functions. But it is indeed possible. So if for some reason the game goes for an enormous number of moves and CM starts to run out of time and move too fast, it is possible to reset the time control once again.
And that is that Regards
Jonathan
** well that is my theory anyway.
Re: Chessmaster Diamond questions - help from German speaker
HI Jon
thanks for that
you might want to consider incorporating this into your Main Manual with its own section
what you describe sounds vaguely familiar to what Kurt told me ..i remember the display indicating when the book module comes out and then the endgame module must then go in
Manual inching closer to completion Regards
Steve
PS...This was NOT your first holz schachcomputer??

thanks for that
you might want to consider incorporating this into your Main Manual with its own section
what you describe sounds vaguely familiar to what Kurt told me ..i remember the display indicating when the book module comes out and then the endgame module must then go in
Manual inching closer to completion Regards
Steve
PS...This was NOT your first holz schachcomputer??
