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zullil
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Re: No chance

Post by zullil » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:47 pm

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Be1

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pPnP1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1PN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 3
Did you intend to sacrifice your e-pawn?
That is a positional sacrifice SF does not understand, and only winning move, btw. :)
SF plays Nxe3, showing its lack of understanding of positional chess.
[D]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K w - - 0 20

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Re: No chance

Post by zullil » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:51 pm

yanquis1972 wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Be1

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pPnP1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1PN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 3
Did you intend to sacrifice your e-pawn?
That is a positional sacrifice SF does not understand, and only winning move, btw. :)
and yet, i can't help but wonder if perhaps we will come to another 'unclear' draw... :D


[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K w - - 0 1

Analysis by Komodo 8 64-bit:

-/+ (-1.13) Depth: 7 00:00:00 27kN
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:29:13 22836MN, tb=30
Yes, "only winning move" is not as inspiring as "White mates". But let's see how White's attack develops. :wink:

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Re: No chance

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:58 pm

zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Be1

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pPnP1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1PN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 3
Did you intend to sacrifice your e-pawn?
That is a positional sacrifice SF does not understand, and only winning move, btw. :)
SF plays Nxe3, showing its lack of understanding of positional chess.
[D]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP2Q1/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K w - - 0 20
Qf4

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 4

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Re: No chance

Post by zullil » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:17 am

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qf4

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 4
Nc2
[D]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/R3B2K w - - 2 21

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Re: No chance

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:26 am

zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qf4

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 4
Nc2
[D]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/R3B2K w - - 2 21
Rd1

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K b - - 0 5

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Re: No chance

Post by zullil » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:05 am

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qf4

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP1nN1R/1P2B2P/R3B2K b - - 0 4
Nc2
[D]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/R3B2K w - - 2 21
Rd1

[d]1r3rk1/4bp1p/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K b - - 0 5
Kg7
[D]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 4 22

(with almost +2 advantage for Black)

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Re: No chance

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:13 am

zullil wrote:Kg7
[D]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 4 22

(with almost +2 advantage for Black)
Qf6

[d]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1pQp1/3pP1P1/p1pP4/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K b - - 0 6

And what does now SF think?

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Re: No chance

Post by yanquis1972 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:33 am

-i- think that youve stumbled upon a very nice test position, as well as a very nice idea.

white to move and DRAW :D :

[d]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 4 22


[d]1r3rk1/5p1p/1qb1pPp1/3pP3/p1pP4/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 0 8
Analysis by Komodo 8 64-bit:

8.[redacted]
-+ (-2.88 --) Depth: 7 00:00:00 13kN
-+ (-2.85 --) Depth: 9 00:00:00 27kN
8.[redacted]
-+ (-2.82 --) Depth: 9 00:00:00 27kN
-+ (-3.24) Depth: 10 00:00:00 64kN
8. [redacted]
-+ (-3.10) Depth: 10 00:00:00 68kN
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:08:42 8069MN, tb=329

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Re: No chance

Post by zullil » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:38 am

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
zullil wrote:Kg7
[D]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 4 22

(with almost +2 advantage for Black)
Qf6

[d]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1pQp1/3pP1P1/p1pP4/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K b - - 0 6

And what does now SF think?
Yes, SF says DRAW. Shall I give the line?

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Re: No chance

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:39 am

yanquis1972 wrote:-i- think that youve stumbled upon a very nice test position, as well as a very nice idea.

white to move and DRAW :D :

[d]1r3r2/4bpkp/1qb1p1p1/3pP1P1/p1pP1Q2/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 4 22


[d]1r3rk1/5p1p/1qb1pPp1/3pP3/p1pP4/PpP2N1R/1Pn1B2P/3RB2K w - - 0 8
Analysis by Komodo 8 64-bit:

8.[redacted]
-+ (-2.88 --) Depth: 7 00:00:00 13kN
-+ (-2.85 --) Depth: 9 00:00:00 27kN
8.[redacted]
-+ (-2.82 --) Depth: 9 00:00:00 27kN
-+ (-3.24) Depth: 10 00:00:00 64kN
8. [redacted]
-+ (-3.10) Depth: 10 00:00:00 68kN
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:08:42 8069MN, tb=329
I am very much afraid this is mate in 8. :)

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