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Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by MM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:53 pm

Hello Mr Houdart,

have you any plans about a new release, significantly stronger than 2.0c?
Many of these threads are related to komodo because its release is coming soon and its authors say that their engine is very strong at long time control and very close to your engine.

But i think that the triple or quadruple interest of people would be for a new release of yours.

Thank you

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by Houdini » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:09 pm

Work on Houdini 3 has already started, but it's too early to say anything significant about it.

Houdini 2 is only 3 months old, so there is no particular hurry. A commercial engine that is integrated in a number of popular products (Aquarium, Chess Assistant, very soon Chess King) and is available on DVD through a large number of dealers, has some inevitable inertia that doesn't favor frequent major releases.

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by MM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:12 pm

Houdini wrote:Work on Houdini 3 has already started, but it's too early to say anything significant about it.

Houdini 2 is only 3 months old, so there is no particular hurry. A commercial engine that is integrated in a number of popular products (Aquarium, Chess Assistant, very soon Chess King) and is available on DVD through a large number of dealers, has some inevitable inertia that doesn't favor frequent major releases.

Robert
Yes, i agree. Anyway each new will be welcome.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by Adam Hair » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Houdini wrote:Work on Houdini 3 has already started, but it's too early to say anything significant about it.

Houdini 2 is only 3 months old, so there is no particular hurry. A commercial engine that is integrated in a number of popular products (Aquarium, Chess Assistant, very soon Chess King) and is available on DVD through a large number of dealers, has some inevitable inertia that doesn't favor frequent major releases.

Robert
It would seem to me that "some" is a bit of an understatement. While this type of distribution system probably allows you to realize more profit, there are certain aspects of it that would slow the pace of new versions. The product does have to be available for awhile in order to maximize profit for all involved. Furthermore, there will be pressure to insure a new release is substantially stronger than the previous version. People get quite vocal when they pay full price for a new version and it does not live up to their expectations, Elo-wise. A nimble competitor could conceivably take advantage of the inertia to usurp sales from Houdini.

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by hgm » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:19 pm

Commercially it doesn't make sense to improve a product that already is market leader. You would just be competing with yourself...

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by Uri Blass » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:26 pm

hgm wrote:Commercially it doesn't make sense to improve a product that already is market leader. You would just be competing with yourself...
I disagree
I use the free houdini(houdini1.5) because
I did not see evidence that Houdini2.0 is clearly stronger and even if it is
20 or 30 elo stronger then is not enough to convince me.

If I see that houdini3 is at least 50 elo better than the other programs that I use then it is going to be a good reason to buy it.

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by MM » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:40 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
hgm wrote:Commercially it doesn't make sense to improve a product that already is market leader. You would just be competing with yourself...
I disagree
I use the free houdini(houdini1.5) because
I did not see evidence that Houdini2.0 is clearly stronger and even if it is
20 or 30 elo stronger then is not enough to convince me.

If I see that houdini3 is at least 50 elo better than the other programs that I use then it is going to be a good reason to buy it.
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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by Houdini » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:00 pm

Chess King is a new chess package that is going to be released in the coming days.

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Re: Any plans for Houdini 3?

Post by Cubeman » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:01 pm

Houdini wrote:Work on Houdini 3 has already started, but it's too early to say anything significant about it.

Houdini 2 is only 3 months old, so there is no particular hurry. A commercial engine that is integrated in a number of popular products (Aquarium, Chess Assistant, very soon Chess King) and is available on DVD through a large number of dealers, has some inevitable inertia that doesn't favor frequent major releases.

Robert
I see that you have branched out into various value added products.Do you still plan to support the Mobile/PDA platform.Just seems to me that being #1 at the moment is a ripe time to take advantage of this.Still wishing for a PocketFritz port :cry:

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