TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

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Re: TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:46 pm

Yeah. I mixed the names of Fizbo and Ginkgo by mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I already made a comment with the correction.

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Re: TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

Post by Jouni » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:19 pm

After 6/12 rounds:

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1 Stockfish 100218 3456 29.0  42 541.75 ······ ====== 0===== 1=1=== ==11== 11=1=1 111=11 =111=1
2 Houdini 6.03     3461 27.0  42 519.25 ====== ······ ==1=== ==1==1 ====1= 1===== =1=1=1 111=1=
3 Komodo 2012.00   3454 26.0  42 506.75 1===== ==0=== ······ ====== =1==11 1=1=1= ====1= 1===11
4 Fire 020718      3350 22.5  42 427.00 0=0=== ==0==0 ====== ······ ===1== ====== 1=1==1 =1=1=1
5 Chiron 110218    3284 19.5  42 372.00 ==00== ====0= =0==00 ===0== ······ =====0 1101== =11==1
6 Andscacs 0.93    3347 19.5  42 362.75 00=0=0 0===== 0=0=0= ====== =====1 ······ 1==0== 1=1=11
7 Fizbo 2          3273 15.5  42 291.75 000=00 =0=0=0 ====0= 0=0==0 0010== 0==1== ······ =1=1=1
8 Ginkgo 2.03      3266  9.0  42 200.75 =000=0 000=0= 0===00 =0=0=0 =00==0 0=0=00 =0=0=0 ······
What are chances to play in superfinal? I think something like SF 98% Houdini 55% Komodo 45% and Fire 2%.
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Re: TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:17 pm

First half of Premier Division is completed now. Stockfish is still in the lead and Houdini is two points behind. Komodo is only one point below Houdini. Ginkgo and Fizbo continue is the relegation zone to first division. Watch the games of the second half in the main site http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php.

Standing after 42 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 29.0/42 (541.75)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 27.0/42 (519.25)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 26.0/42 (506.75)
4. [Fire 020718] 22.5/42 (427.00)
5. [Chiron 110218] 19.5/42 (372.00)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 19.5/42 (362.75)
7. [Fizbo 2] 15.5/42 (291.75)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 9.0/42 (200.75)

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Re: TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

Post by JJJ » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:55 pm

But Komodo has lost to Houdini once again. There is still a slim chance for him to reach superfinal because I think it might be slighty better than Houdini now against weaker engine, at least in TCEC condition.

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Re: TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

Post by Ron Langeveld » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:36 pm

JJJ wrote:... I think it might be slighty better than Houdini now against weaker engine, at least in TCEC condition.
K has +4 against the two 'inferior' engines in this group. The worst plus score against weaker engines of the whole pack. Same as Andscacs at the time of writing but with the latter still one more game to play.

... but I guess you were not trying to state facts ;)

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Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:34 pm

Standings after 49 rounds: Stockfish and Houdini still are in the top two positions and they have increased the advantage over Komodo. Ginkgo and Fizbo remains in the bottom two positions but the latter is getting closer to Chiron. Still 35 rounds to be played so, nothing is decided yet. Watch live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 49 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 34.0/49 (743.00)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 32.5/49 (727.75)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 29.0/49 (661.75)
4. [Fire 020718] 26.0/49 (578.50)
5. [Chiron 110218] 22.5/49 (492.25)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 22.0/49 (497.25)
7. [Fizbo 2] 19.0/49 (421.00)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 11.0/49 (281.00)

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:47 pm

JamesTCEC wrote:Standings after 49 rounds: Stockfish and Houdini still are in the top two positions and they have increased the advantage over Komodo. Ginkgo and Fizbo remains in the bottom two positions but the latter is getting closer to Chiron. Still 35 rounds to be played so, nothing is decided yet. Watch live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 49 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 34.0/49 (743.00)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 32.5/49 (727.75)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 29.0/49 (661.75)
4. [Fire 020718] 26.0/49 (578.50)
5. [Chiron 110218] 22.5/49 (492.25)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 22.0/49 (497.25)
7. [Fizbo 2] 19.0/49 (421.00)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 11.0/49 (281.00)
Too bad only the top 2 engines go on to the superfinal.
I would like to see 4 then 2.
The differences look significant until you look at the head to head results, which are extremely close. It may be that (for instance) the SF tweaking of contempt allows for far less cautious play against much weaker engines giving more points. But this may or may not lead to better play against the top engines (only Houdini has no losses). Against the high-end competition, K and SF have similar records. The no losses for H is likely just a probability anomaly. Not enough games to make an accurate statement.
I get the perception that Fire is not as strong against the top 3 but there are not really enough games for that. Too bad Shredder won't play.
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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by Vinvin » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:08 am

Dann Corbit wrote: Too bad only the top 2 engines go on to the superfinal.
I would like to see 4 then 2.
I think the same since season 10. 8-)

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by leavenfish » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:46 am

Two is fine, lets not kid ourselves. There are two top engines...then Komodo...then the rest.

I'm a long time buyer of Komodo; when I ask myself if a 4 engine final just to get Komodo in would add anything? I have to answer, no.

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by JJJ » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:16 pm

Andscacs took a game on Komodo today !

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