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Penrose Puzzle

Post by zenpawn » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:07 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... ciousness/

[d]8/p7/kpP5/qrp1b3/rpP2b2/pP4b1/P3K3/8 w - - 0 1

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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by kasinp » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:13 pm

Thanks for posting. Quite fascinating, as for the human it seems obvious that the extra black bishops don't matter. Meanwhile they seem to completely confound chess engines. Komodo (for instance) sees the draw immediately if you remove two of them...

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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Jouni » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:31 pm

Bad testposition as all 4 king moves draw. But article says: white can even win :?: :?: .
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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by zenpawn » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Jouni wrote:Bad testposition as all 4 king moves draw. But article says: white can even win :?: :?: .
I think they're just referring to the possibility, which obviously wouldn't happen, of all the bishops moving off the b8-h2 diagonal, allowing c7 and c8/Q (or B) mate.

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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by hgm » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:12 pm

Interesting problem, but the article is just the usual Penrose bullshit on how superior the human mind is, and how this can only be explained by quantum effects.

E.g. that the largest super-computer could not solve this is of course nonsense. An Arduino Uno could probably solve it, when adequately programmed. When a computer cannot solve it, it just means it is not properly programmed. Remember that Chess Engines rank high amongst the most stupid programs ever designed, and that they are not developed to understand Chess, but just to be successful in beating other programs that do not understand much about Chess.

A simple analysis on which piece is blocking which immediately reveals that all black pieces except the Bishops have no prospect of ever moving. So it is basically 3 Bishops vs one King, and it takes only ~100 msec to generate a tablebase for that. You don't even have to realize that it helps that Bishops are on the same color can never deliver checkmate.

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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:52 pm

I guess that every strong chess engine will give a wrong evaluation but every strong chess engine will also draw this position in actual play.

The fact that the engine reports a wrong number has no connection to its drawing chances.
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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:09 pm

To wit:

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Searching: 8/p7/kpP5/qrp1b3/rpP2b2/pP4b1/P3K3/8 w - - 0 1
infinite: 0 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0

 1  -29.12   00:00      16  bxa4 
 2  -25.73   00:00      80  Kf3 Bd6 cxb5+ Qxb5 
 3  -26.17   00:00     105  Kf3 Bd4 cxb5+ Kxb5 bxa4+ Kxc6 
 4  -27.54   00:00     169  Kf3 Bd4 c7 Bxc7 
 5  -30.04   00:00     277  Kf3 Bc7 Kg2 Bcd6 bxa4 
 6  -30.14   00:00     390  Kf3 Bd4 cxb5+ Qxb5 c7 Qc6+ Kg4 Qe6+ Kf3 
 7  -30.40   00:00     945  Kf3 Bc7 cxb5+ Qxb5 Kg4 Qe2+ Kf5 Ra5 Kf6 Qxa2 
 8  -30.33   00:00    1708  Kf3 Bc7 Kg2 Bfe5 bxa4 Qxa4 Kh3 Ra5 Kg4 Qxc6 
 9  -26.81   00:00    3491  Kf3 Bc7 Kg2 Bfe5 Kf3 Bcd6 Kg2 Be7 bxa4 
10  -27.40   00:00    7211  Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bcd6 Kf3 Bfe5 Kg2 Bc7 Kh3 Bd4 
11  -27.39   00:00    8495  Kf3 Bc7 Kg2 Bcd6 Kh1 Bfe5 Kg2 Bc7 Kh3 Bd4 cxb5+ Kxb5 Kg4 Bde5 
12  -27.21   00:00   62084  Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bcd6 Kd3 Bf8 Ke4 Be7 Kf3 Bed6 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 
13  -27.96   00:00  120564  Kd3 Bh8 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bcd6 Ke6 Bd4 Kd5 Bc7 Ke4 Bcd6 Kf5 B4e5 
14  -27.96   00:00  124884  Kd3 Bh8 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bcd6 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc3e5 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7 
15  -29.15   00:00  140676  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bg7 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7e5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf3 Bd6 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 
16  -27.96   00:00  145514  Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bd6 Kf5 Bc7 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kf5 Bcd6 Kg6 Bg3 Kg5 Bc7 Kf5 Bgd6 Kg5 Be3+ Kg4 
17  -27.98   00:00  155957  Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kf5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bd4 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 
18  -27.98   00:00  156357  Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kf5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kd5 Bfd6 Ke4 Bde5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kf5 Bfe5 Kg4 Bed6 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 
19  -27.98   00:00  159722  Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kf5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kd5 Bfd6 Ke4 Bde5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kg4 Bfd6 Kf5 Bb8 
20  -27.98   00:00  174988  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kf5 Bcd6 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bfd6 Kf5 Bg3 Kg5 Bcf4+ Kg6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb8 
21  -27.98   00:00  187668  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kf5 Bcd6 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bd4 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bfd6 Kf5 Bg3 Kg5 
22  -27.98   00:00  219376  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kf5 Bcd6 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bd4 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bfd6 Kf5 
23  -27.98   00:00  268529  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 
24  -27.98   00:00  310418  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 
25  -27.98   00:00  404237  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 
26  -27.98   00:00  573373  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 
27  -27.98   00:00  723381  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 
28  -27.98   00:00  850180  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 
29  -27.98   00:00   1023K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 
30  -27.98   00:01   1518K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bbd6 
31  -27.98   00:01   1683K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bbd6 
32  -27.98   00:02   2270K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bbd6 Ke4 
33  -27.98   00:02   2750K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bfd6 Kg6 
34  -27.98   00:02   2885K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bfd6 
35  -27.98   00:03   3384K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bbd6 Ke4 
36  -27.98   00:04   4571K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 
37  -27.98   00:05   5397K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 
38  -27.98   00:06   6050K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 
39  -27.98   00:06   6536K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 
40  -27.98   00:06   6906K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 
41  -27.98   00:07   7459K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 
42  -27.98   00:08   7959K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 
43  -27.98   00:08   8223K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 
44  -27.98   00:08   8395K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 
45  -27.98   00:09   8991K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 
46  -27.98   00:09   9220K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 Bcf4 
47  -27.98   00:10   9499K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 Bcf4 Ke4 
48  -27.98   00:11  10670K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 Bcf4 Ke4 Bhg3 
49  -27.98   00:12  11468K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 Bcf4 Ke4 Bhg3 Kf5 
50  -27.98   00:13  12750K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bbc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bce5 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bf6 Ke4 Bg5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Be1 Kg4 Bf2 Kf3 Bg1 Ke4 Bgh2 Kf5 Bcf4 Ke4 Bhg3 Kf5 Bc1 
51  -27.98   00:16  15257K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kg4 Bec7 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Be5 Kd5 Bed6 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Be3 Kg4 Be7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 B7g5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bf6 Kf5 Bce5 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bce5 
52  -27.98   00:22  20596K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bcd6 Ke4 Bb8 Kf5 Bfe5 Kg5 Bgf4+ Kg4 Bec7 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Be5 Kd5 Bed6 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Be3 Kg4 Be7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 B7g5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bf6 Kf5 Bce5 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bc3 Kg4 
53  -27.98   00:25  23864K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bd4 Kd5 Bh2 Ke4 Bg3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bfe5 Kg4 Bd4 
54  -27.98   00:31  28774K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bd4 Kf3 Bg7 Ke2 Bc3 Ke3 Bb8 Ke2 Bg3 Ke3 Bd4+ Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bd8 Ke4 Bg7 Kf3 Bc7 Kf2 
55  -27.98   00:42  37967K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bde5 Kf5 Bcd4 Ke6 Bc7 Ke7 Bf2 Ke6 Be3 Kd7 Bef4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf7 Bd8 Kg6 Bec7 Kf5 Bd6 
56  -27.98   01:03  55683K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Beg3 Kg4 Bge5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bf4 Kf5 Bce5 Ke4 Bb8 Kf3 Bd2 Ke4 Bd6 Kf5 Bh2 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bb2 Ke4 
57  -27.98   01:12  63289K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Beg3 Kg4 Bge5 Kg5 Be7+ Kg4 B7f6 Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Be7 Kg3 Bd6+ Kh4 Bc7 Kg5 Bd8+ Kh5 Be3 Kg6 Bdg5 Kf5 Bh4 Ke5 Bd4+ Ke6 Bg3 
58  -27.98   01:23  72105K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Beg3 Kg4 Bge5 Kg5 Be7+ Kg4 B7f6 Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Be7 Kg3 Bd6+ Kh4 Bc7 Kg5 Bd8+ Kh5 Be3 Kg6 Bdg5 Kf5 Bh6 Ke4 Bhf4 Kd5 Bc7 
59  -27.98   01:38  85560K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bg7 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Be1 Kg5 Bd2+ Kg6 Bb8 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4 Bg3 Kd5 Bc7 Ke4 Bd4 Kf3 Bd8 Kg3 B4f6 Kg4 
60  -27.98   02:29 127161K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bb8 Kf7 Bc3 Kg6 Bd2 Kf7 Bc7 Kf6 Bd8+ Kg6 Bc3 Kf5 Bh4 Kg4 Bce1 Kf3 Bd8 Kg4 Be7 Kf3 Bd6 
61  -27.98   03:14 164069K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bg3 Ke7 Bc7 Kf7 Bf2 Ke6 Bcg3 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kf3 Bf6 Kf2 Bfd8 Ke2 Bf4 
62  -27.98   08:57 458678K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bg3 Ke7 Be3 Kd7 Bef4 Ke6 Bd6 Kf6 Bde5+ Kg6 Bgf4 Kf7 Bb8 Ke7 Bg5+ Kf7 Be5 Ke8 Bef4 Kd7 Bh4 Ke6 Bc7 Kd5 
63  -27.98   11:26 592416K  Kf3 Bd4 Kg2 Bd6 Kf3 B4e5 Ke4 Bef4 Kd5 Bde5 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Be1 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg3 Ke4 Bcf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bcd2 Ke6 Bf2 Kf5 Bde1 Kxf4 Bg3+ Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Beg3 Ke4 Bc7 Kd5 Bh4 Ke4 Bcg3 Ke3 Bg5+ Ke4 Bh6 Kd5 Bgf4 Ke6 Bhg5 Kd7 Bh4 Ke6 Bc7 Kd5 Bcg3 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7 Be5 Ke6 Bhf6 Kd7 Bh2 Ke6 
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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:38 pm

Took Komodo a bit longer to stabilize the eval, but Komodo also clearly draws.

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Analysis of Q:\locked.epd   
2017-03-14 4:12:38 PM Level: 600 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Komodo-10-64bit

 1                      
    Avoid move: 
    Best move (Komodo-10-64bit): Ke2-f3
    Not found in: 10:00
      2	00:00	       3,948	1,965,450	-29.70	bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5+
      3	00:00	       6,751	2,249,208	-29.70	bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5+ Qxb5+ Kf3
      4	00:00	      11,722	3,905,380	-30.48	bxa4 Qxa4 Kf1 Bd4
      4	00:00	      14,469	3,614,539	-29.60	c7 Bxc7 bxa4 Qxa4
      4	00:00	      18,038	4,506,120	-26.29	Kf3 Bf2 bxa4 Qxa4
      5-	00:00	      20,869	5,213,339	-26.95	Kf3 Bf2
      5	00:00	      25,129	5,026,805	-29.81	Kf3 Bd4 cxb5+ Qxb5 bxa4 Qxa4 Kg4 Qxc6
      6	00:00	      29,639	5,928,985	-29.81	Kf3 Bd4 cxb5+ Qxb5 bxa4 Qxa4 Kg4 Qxc6
      7+	00:00	      36,420	6,070,505	-29.48	Kf3 Bh6
      7+	00:00	      38,426	6,404,867	-29.31	Kf3 Bd4 c7
      7+	00:00	      40,368	6,728,560	-29.15	Kf3 Bd4 c7
      7	00:00	      45,987	7,665,138	-29.31	Kf3 Bd4 c7 Kb7 bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5
      8-	00:00	      54,238	7,749,392	-29.40	Kf3 Bd4
      8+	00:00	      95,546	10,616,104	-29.31	Kf3 Bf2 cxb5+
      8+	00:00	      99,525	9,952,599	-29.16	Kf3 Bd4 Ke4
      8	00:00	     103,372	10,337,303	-29.16	Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bc7 bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5+ Qxb5 Kd5 Qe2
      9-	00:00	     131,990	10,999,166	-29.27	Kf3 Ba1
      9+	00:00	     236,015	13,882,990	-29.02	Kf3 Bc1
      9+	00:00	     240,126	14,124,809	-28.77	Kf3 Bh4
      9+	00:00	     243,960	14,350,334	-28.55	Kf3 Ba1 Ke4
      9+	00:00	     247,673	13,758,770	-28.22	Kf3 Bh4
      9	00:00	     251,776	13,986,700	-28.16	Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bc7 Kd5 Bh2 cxb5+ Qxb5 bxa4 Qxa4 Ke6
     10-	00:00	     264,056	13,897,172	-28.27	Kf3 Bd4
     10	00:00	     476,133	15,869,989	-28.38	Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bd4 bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5+ Qxb5 Ke4 Qc4
     11-	00:00	     512,638	15,532,178	-28.45	Kf3 Bc3
     11	00:00	     763,012	16,233,365	-29.43	Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bh8 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4
     12-	00:00	     796,038	16,244,645	-29.52	Kf3 Bc3
     12+	00:00	   1,041,904	17,079,329	-29.43	Kf3 Bc3 Ke4
     12+	00:00	   1,240,539	17,227,913	-29.21	Kf3 Bd4 Ke4
     12+	00:00	   1,248,141	17,333,486	-29.06	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4
     12+	00:00	   1,279,161	17,284,884	-28.84	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4
     12	00:00	   1,526,849	17,548,556	-28.66	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bh8 Kg6 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc3 bxa4 Qxa4 cxb5+ Qxb5 Ke6 Qd3
     13+	00:00	   1,778,667	17,609,256	-28.59	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4
     13	00:00	   1,786,489	17,686,696	-28.89	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bd4 Kg6 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bhf4 Kg6
     14	00:00	   1,871,911	17,658,138	-28.89	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bd4 Kg6 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bhf4 Kg6 Bh8
     15-	00:00	   1,883,155	17,591,572	-28.98	Kf3 Bb2
     15-	00:00	   1,887,456	17,631,750	-28.97	cxb5+ Qxb5+
     15	00:00	   2,223,342	17,785,441	-M7	cxb5+ Qxb5+ Kf3 Qxc6+ Kg4 Ra5 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 c4 Kh3 Qh1+ Kg4 Rg5+
     15	00:00	   3,143,818	18,170,982	-29.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bh8 Ke6 Bhf4 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bc3 Kd5 Bd4 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7
     16-	00:00	   3,210,242	18,135,577	-29.20	Kf3 Bb2
     16+	00:00	   3,509,601	18,183,085	-29.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4
     16	00:00	   3,586,376	18,296,445	-29.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bh8 Ke6 Bhf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bc3 Kf7
     17	00:00	   3,714,670	18,297,496	-29.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bh8 Ke6 Bhf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bc3 Kf7 Bb2
     18-	00:00	   3,786,324	18,290,033	-29.20	Kf3 Bb2
     18	00:00	   4,457,034	18,416,072	-29.14	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bcf4 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bhf4 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7
     19-	00:00	   4,503,217	18,454,340	-29.21	Kf3 Bb2
     19	00:00	   7,533,594	18,738,810	-30.02	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg5 Bcf4+ Kg6 Bb2 Kf7 Bc7 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7 Bc3
     20	00:00	   8,540,391	18,809,929	-30.02	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bc3 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bdf4 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bh8 Kg4 Bcf4
     21-	00:00	   8,683,954	18,794,948	-30.09	Kf3 Bb2
     21	00:00	  11,099,146	19,167,980	-30.55	Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bc7 Kf3 Bgf4 Ke4 Bc3 Kd5 Bg7 Ke6 Bb2 Kd5 Bg3 Ke6 Bd4 Kd5 Bcd6 Ke6 Bc3 Kd5 Bgf4
     22	00:00	  12,628,188	19,248,740	-30.55	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bd4 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bh8 Kf5 Bg3 Kg5 Bd4 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5
     23-	00:00	  14,464,271	19,284,146	-30.62	Kf3 Bb2
     23	00:01	  19,631,686	19,610,487	-30.84	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bb8 Kg4 Bbc7 Kf3 Bh8 Kg4 Bb2 Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bh8 Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bd4
     24	00:01	  23,473,122	19,707,150	-30.84	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bfc1 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 B1f4 Kd7 Bd4 Kc8 Bg3 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bb8 Ke4 Bbf4 Kd5
     25	00:01	  32,063,125	19,827,162	-30.84	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bfc1 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 B1f4 Kf5 Bd4 Kg6 Bg3 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bgd6 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bdb2 Kd7
     26-	00:01	  32,370,355	19,821,019	-30.91	Kf3 Bb2
     26	00:02	  55,845,116	19,836,793	-30.98	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bfe5 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bbe5 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke4 Bc3 Kd5 Bc1 Ke6 B3e5 Kf7 Bcf4 Ke7 Bc3 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bg3
     27	00:03	  60,493,394	19,806,308	-30.98	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bbc1 Kf5 Be5 Ke6 Bcf4 Kd5 Bd4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bc1 Ke7 Bcf4 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7 Bb2 Ke6 Bc3 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6
     28-	00:03	  61,470,044	19,808,261	-31.05	Kf3 Bb2
     28	00:03	  77,611,001	19,817,329	-31.39	Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bbe5 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bbc3 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bh8 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bf6 Kf5 Bh8 Ke6 Bc3 Kf5
     29	00:05	 111,582,843	19,723,126	-31.42	Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bfe5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf7 Ba1 Ke6 Bb2 Ke7 Bbc1 Ke6 Be5 Kd5 Bc3 Ke6 Bc7 Kf7 Bd4 Ke7 B1f4 Ke6 Bg3 Ke7 Bge5 Ke6
     30-	00:07	 144,713,645	19,612,608	-31.49	Kf3 Bh6
     30	00:11	 231,339,110	20,798,435	-32.04	Kf3 Bh6 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 B1f4 Ke6 Bc3e5 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bef4 Kf6 Bb2+ Ke6 Bh8 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 Bb2 Ke7 Bbc3 Kd7 Bg3
     31	00:11	 239,278,412	20,756,385	-32.04	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bfe5 Kf3 Bbd4 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bc3 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bfe5 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bbd4 Kg5 Bh8 Kf5 Bde5 Kg5 Bf4+ Kg6 Bc3 Kf5 Bh6 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5
     32-	00:11	 240,214,099	20,761,903	-32.11	Kf3 Bb2
     32	00:13	 282,719,201	20,555,230	-32.59	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bfe5 Kf3 Bgf4 Kg2 Bc7 Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc3e5 Kg4 Bh6 Kf5 Bc1 Ke4 Bcb2 Kf3 Bed4 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bce5 Ke4 Bdb2 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 B7f4
     33-	00:13	 286,940,101	20,580,779	-32.66	Kf3 Bb2
     33	00:16	 341,146,276	20,348,269	-32.82	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bb2 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bc3 Kg5 Bge5 Kf5 Bf4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke6 Bc3 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bbd4 Kg4
     34	00:21	 429,214,385	20,245,260	-32.86	Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bge5 Kd7 Bf4 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bge5 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bc3e5 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bge5 Ke6 Bb2 Kd7 Bf4
     35	00:21	 433,229,659	20,238,937	-32.86	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bb2 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bgf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5 Bf4 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bcd4 Kd7 Bed6 Kc8 Bg3 Kd7 Bgf4 Ke7 Bfd6+ Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bde5
     36	00:22	 446,806,393	20,223,150	-32.86	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bb2 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bc3e5 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bb2 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7 Bge5 Ke6 Bf4 Ke7 Bc3 Kd7 Bg3
     37-	00:22	 448,631,031	20,230,645	-32.93	Kf3 Bb2
     37	00:24	 485,467,301	20,223,622	-32.94	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd4 Kf5 Bh2 Kg4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bc3 Kg4 Bg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bed4 Kf5 Bg3 Kg4 Bde5 Kf5 Bcd4 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bfd6 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7
     38	00:26	 537,037,130	20,174,821	-32.94	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7 Bd6e5 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bc3e5 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bhf4 Kd7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bhf4 bxa4
     39	00:29	 589,992,986	20,156,645	-32.95	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd8 Kd7 Bgc7 Ke8 Bd4 Kd7 Bde5 Ke6 Bg5 Kf5 Be3 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 B7e5 Kc8 Bg5 Kd7 Bcd4 Kc8 Bgf6 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7 Bf4e5 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bf4 Ke6 Bc3
     40	00:31	 627,713,896	20,135,459	-32.95	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bf6 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bge5 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7 Bc3 Kc8 Bg3 Kd7 Bge5 Ke6 Bf6 Kf5 Bfd4 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bde5 Kd8 Bh4+ Kc8 Bb2 Kd7 Bbd4 Ke6 Bhg3 Kd7 Bgf4 Kd8 Bc3 Kd7 Bg7 Kc8
     41	00:35	 709,112,341	20,098,481	-32.95	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd8 Kf5 Bgc7 Ke4 Bd4 Kf3 B8f6 Kg4 Bce5 Kf5 Bg3 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7 Bg3 Kc8 Bge5 Kd7 Bf4 Ke7 Bg3 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bb2 Kc8 Bd4 Kd7 Bde5 Ke6 Bd4
     42	00:36	 743,721,757	20,191,716	-32.95	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bd4 Kd7 Bce5 Ke6 Bb2 Kd5 Bbc3 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bf6 Ke6 Bfd4 Kd7 Bfe5 Kc8 Bg3 Kd7 Bf6 Kc8 Bfe5 Kd8 Bc7+ Kd7 Bgf4 Ke6 Bc3e5 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bed4 cxb5+
     43	00:42	 857,178,423	20,354,999	-33.01	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kh3 Bc7 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bcf4 Ke6 Bd6 Kd7 Bge5 Kc8 Bc7 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bfd6 Kg5 Bde5 Kf5 Bh2 Kg6 Bd4 Kf5 Bhe5 Ke6 Bf4 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6
     44	00:46	 947,303,568	20,396,332	-33.01	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf3 Bce5 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bh2 Ke7 Bhd6+ Kd7 Bf4 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bcd4 Kd7 Bcd6 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bce5 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bd4 Kc8 Bc3 Kd7 Bgf4 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bc7
     45-	00:50	1,027,568,212	20,548,861	-33.08	Kf3 Bb2
     45	01:03	1,344,098,911	21,035,982	-33.12	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bg7 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bh4 Ke4 Bcg3 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bhg3 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf3 Bd6 Kg4 Bge5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7
     46	01:08	1,438,534,678	21,043,024	-33.12	Kf3 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bc7 Kg4 Bc3e5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bc3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bbe5 Kg4 Bcd6 Kf5 Bg3 Kg4 Bd4 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 Bh2 Kc8 Bhf4 Kd8 Bg3 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bcf4 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bd6 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bdf4
     47	01:13	1,539,402,584	20,989,086	-33.12	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bde5 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bgf4 Kf5 Bbd4 Ke4 Bfe3 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bef4 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bhg3 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bde5 Kg4 Bc3 Kf3 Bd4 Kg4 Bge5 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4 Bed4 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bdf4 Kf5 Bfe3 Kg4
     48	01:43	2,239,621,172	21,722,539	-33.12	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bde5 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bbd4 Kd7 Bc7 Ke6 Bgf4 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bc7e5 Kf5 Be3 Ke6 Bcd4 Kd7 Bf2 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bf4 Ke8 Bh4 Kd7 Bhg3 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bde5 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bge5 Ke6 Bh2 Kd7 Bcd6 Kc8 Bhe5
     49	02:24	3,174,481,597	22,024,462	-33.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bde5 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bgf4 Kd5 Bc3 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 B2c3 Kd7 Bf4 Kc8 Bg3 Kd8 Bf6+ Kd7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bb2 Ke8 Bgf4 Kd7 Bce5 Kd8 Bbd4 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bgd6 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bhf4 Ke6
     50	02:37	3,518,489,607	22,408,003	-33.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bde5 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bd4 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bgd6 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4 Bhe5 Kf5 Bcd4 Ke6 Bed6 Kf5 Be7 Ke6 Bg5 Kf5 Bh4 Kg4 Be7 Kf5 Bef6 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bg3 Kg4 Bcd6 Kf5 Bc3 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf3 Bce5 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bc3
     51	03:38	5,079,851,932	23,230,253	-33.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Bc7e5 Kg4 Bf2 Kf5 Be3 Ke6 Be3d4 Kd7 Bf4 Ke6 Bde5 Kd7 Bb2 Ke6 Bbd4 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bcf4 Kd8 B2c3 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bcd4 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bcf4 Kg4 Bfe5 Kf5 Bgf4 Ke4
     52	03:56	5,505,785,033	23,247,900	-33.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bc3 Kf5 Bf4 Kg4 Bf6 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bc3 Kf3 Bc3e5 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Bc3 Kg4 Bcf4 Kf3 Bce5 Kg4 Bd6 Kf5 Bfe5 Ke6 Bc3 Kd7 Bde5 Kd8 Bc7+ Kc8 Bd4 Kd7 Bgf4 Kc8 Bde5 Kd7 Bc3 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bcf4 Kd8
     53	04:56	7,025,965,014	23,674,872	-33.13	Kf3 Bb2 Ke2 Bd4 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bc3e5 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bd2 Kf3 B2c3 Kg4 Bde5 Kf3 Bcd4 Kg4 Bb2 Kf5 Bf4 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bc3 Kg4 Bc7e5 Kf3 Bb2 Ke4 Bgf4 Kf5 Bbc3 Ke4 Bc7 Kd5 Bfd6 Ke6 Bce5 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bh4 Ke6 Bc3 Kf5
   2017-03-14 4:22:41 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
2017-03-14 4:22:42 PM, Total time: 12:10:03 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds
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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:00 am

Houdini also solves it easily:

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Analysis of Q:\locked.epd   
2017-03-14 4:39:23 PM Level: 600 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Houdini 5 Standard

 1                      
    Avoid move: 
    Best move (Houdini 5 Standard): Ke2-f3
    Not found in: 10:00
    14/28	00:00	   1,821,937	17,688,000	-24.95	Kf3 Bd4 Ke4 Bf6 Kd5 Bc3 Ke6 Bb8 Kd7 Bbc7 Ke6 Bc7e5 Kf5 Bd2
    15/30	00:00	   4,581,144	17,352,000	-24.99	Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bd2 Kg6 Bcf4 Kf5 Be5 Ke4
    16/30	00:00	   4,800,677	17,330,000	-24.99	Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Be3 Ke4 Bef4
    17/32	00:00	   5,074,354	17,259,000	-24.99	Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kd5 Bc7e5 Ke6 Bd2 Kf5 Bd4 Kg6 Bh2 Kf5
    18/32	00:00	   5,313,029	17,138,000	-24.99	Kf3 Bf6 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bc3 Kd5 Bc7e5 Ke6 Bd2 Ke7 Bc7 Kd7 Bc1 Ke6 Be3
    18/32	00:00	   9,463,825	16,869,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7
    19/32	00:00	   9,510,269	16,862,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4
    20/32	00:00	   9,575,057	16,857,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4 Bde3 Kf5
    21/37	00:00	   9,757,412	16,823,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4 Bde5 Kf5 Bc7
    22/37	00:00	   9,847,944	16,834,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4 Bde5 Kf5 Bc7
    23/37	00:00	  10,088,291	16,813,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bgf4 Kg4 Bde5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6
    24/37	00:00	  10,265,437	16,801,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bcf4 Kd7 Bh6 Ke6 Bgf4
    24/38	00:00	  11,523,445	16,773,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bg3 Kf5 Bde5 Ke4 Bh6 Kd5 Bhf4 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bfe5
    25/38	00:00	  12,125,172	16,747,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bh8 Kf5 Bhc3 Ke6 Bg7 Ke7 Bc1 Ke6
    26/41	00:01	  14,334,114	16,824,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bd4 Kg4 Bh8 Kf5 Bhc3 Ke6 Bg7 Ke7 Bc1 Ke6 Bh2
    27/41	00:01	  15,606,931	16,781,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg7 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bhf4 Ke6 Bcd6 Kf5 Bge5 Ke6 Bd2
    28/44	00:01	  19,439,262	17,051,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf5 Beg7 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bhf4 Ke6 Bcd6 Kf5 Bge5 Ke6 Bd2 Kd7
    29/44	00:01	  24,057,522	16,953,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bdf4 Kd7 Bc1 Ke6 Bd2 Kf5 Bh2 Ke6 Bd6f4 Kf5 Be5 Ke6 Bd6 Kf5
    30/44	00:02	  32,604,804	17,079,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bc7 Kf5 Bed2 Ke6 Bc1 Kd7 B1f4 Ke6 Bc3e5 Kf5 Ba1 Ke4 Bcd6 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bae5 Kf5 Bc7
    30/47	00:02	  36,265,612	17,146,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bch6 Ke7 Bh2 Ke6 B6f4 Kf5 Bge5 Ke4
    31/47	00:02	  39,257,843	17,271,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bch6 Ke7 Bce5 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bhf4 Kf5 Bc7
    32/48	00:03	  55,263,169	17,383,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7 Kf5 Bc1 Ke6 Bch6 Ke7 Bce5 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bhf4 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6
    33/50	00:04	  72,122,251	16,946,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Bde5 Kd7 Bdc3 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bc7e5 Kf7 Bh6
    33/50	00:04	  72,123,289	16,946,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bg7 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Bde5 Kd7 Bdc3 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bc7 Ke6 Bc7e5 Kf7 Bh6
    34/52	00:05	  82,081,371	16,923,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 B3b2 Ke7 Bcf4 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bhg3 Kf5
    34/52	00:05	  82,082,801	16,920,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 B3b2 Ke7 Bcf4 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bhg3 Kf5
    35/60	00:05	  91,090,643	16,915,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 B3b2 Ke7 Bc7 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bcd6 Kf5 Bh2 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5
    35/60	00:05	  91,109,841	16,916,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kd7 B3b2 Ke7 Bc7 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bcd6 Kf5 Bh2 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5
    36/60	00:06	 108,803,315	16,492,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B1f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bed4 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 B4e5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bcd4 Kf3
    36/60	00:06	 108,804,385	16,493,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B1f4 Ke6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bed4 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 B4e5 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bcd4 Kf3
    36/60	00:08	 132,049,205	16,578,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B3e5 Kg4 Bed6 Kf3 Bcf4 Kg4 Bh2 Kf5 Bde5 Kg4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bg3 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bge5
    36/60	00:08	 132,050,412	16,576,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B3e5 Kg4 Bed6 Kf3 Bcf4 Kg4 Bh2 Kf5 Bde5 Kg4 Bhf4 Kf5 Bg3 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bge5
    37/60	00:09	 153,188,856	16,505,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B3e5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Bde5 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf7 Bc7 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7 Bh6 Ke6
    37/60	00:09	 153,189,658	16,503,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B3e5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Bde5 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf7 Bc7 Ke6 Bcd6 Kd7 Bh6 Ke6
    38/60	00:11	 175,301,251	16,276,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Ke6 Bef4 Kd7 Bh2 Ke6 Bce5 Kd5 Bd6 Ke6 Bh6 Kd7 Bde5 Ke6 Bh2f4 Kd7 Bd2 Ke6 Bhg7 Kf5
    38/60	00:11	 175,302,141	16,276,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Ke6 Bef4 Kd7 Bh2 Ke6 Bce5 Kd5 Bd6 Ke6 Bh6 Kd7 Bde5 Ke6 Bh2f4 Kd7 Bd2 Ke6 Bhg7 Kf5
    39/60	00:15	 249,288,133	16,346,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Ke4 Bg5 Kf5 Bef4 Kg4 Bce5 Kh3 Ba1 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bh2 Kd5 Bc7 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf5
    39/60	00:15	 249,293,448	16,346,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Ke4 Bg5 Kf5 Bef4 Kg4 Bce5 Kh3 Ba1 Kg4 Bg7 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bh2 Kd5 Bc7 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf5
    40/60	00:19	 308,987,210	16,022,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Kg6 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfd2 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bdc3 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 Bce5 Kd5 Bf4 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bb2
    40/60	00:19	 308,989,941	16,022,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bec3 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bc1 Kf5 B7e5 Kg6 Bcf4 Kf5 Bfd2 Ke6 Bb2 Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Bdc3 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 Bce5 Kd5 Bf4 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bb2
    41/62	00:28	 439,906,313	15,619,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bdf4 Kf5 Be3 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 Bcb2 Ke6 Bh2 Kd5 Bhf4 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Be3 Ke4 Bec1 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bbe5 Kf5 Bd4 Ke4 Bce5 Kf3 Bcf4 Ke4
    41/62	00:28	 439,907,568	15,619,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bdf4 Kf5 Be3 Ke4 Bc1 Kf5 Bcb2 Ke6 Bh2 Kd5 Bhf4 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Be3 Ke4 Bec1 Kf5 Bc7 Ke4 Bbe5 Kf5 Bd4 Ke4 Bce5 Kf3 Bcf4 Ke4
    42/62	00:32	 503,996,814	15,508,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhf4 Ke4 Bd2 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 B6f4 Kf5 Bc1 Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bae5 Kf5 Beb2 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bh8 Kf5 Bdf4 Ke6 Bcd6
    42/62	00:32	 503,998,065	15,508,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhf4 Ke4 Bd2 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 B6f4 Kf5 Bc1 Kg4 Bd6 Kf3 Bc7 Kg4 Bae5 Kf5 Beb2 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bd2 Kg4 Bh8 Kf5 Bdf4 Ke6 Bcd6
    42/65	00:53	 795,122,120	15,063,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 B6e5 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bde5 Ke6 Bdf4 Kd7 Bb2 Ke6 Bh2 Ke7 Bcd6+ Kf7 Bde5 Kg6 Bc1 Kh5 Bd2
    42/65	00:53	 795,123,034	15,063,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 B6e5 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Ke4 Bc7 Kf5 Bde5 Ke6 Bdf4 Kd7 Bb2 Ke6 Bh2 Ke7 Bcd6+ Kf7 Bde5 Kg6 Bc1 Kh5 Bd2
    43/65	01:30	1,317,849,252	14,655,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 Bhf4 Kg2 Bd6e5 Kf3 Bc1 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bdf4 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Ba1 Kg6 Bd6 Kf5 Bab2 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bc3
    43/65	01:30	1,317,850,536	14,655,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 Bhf4 Kg2 Bd6e5 Kf3 Bc1 Ke4 Bd6 Kd5 Bdf4 Ke4 Bg3 Kf5 Ba1 Kg6 Bd6 Kf5 Bab2 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 Bc3
    44/70	02:20	2,012,976,100	14,400,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 Bd2 Ke4 B6f4 Kd5 Bc1 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bg3 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bd2 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bh2 Kf7 Bec3 Ke6
    44/70	02:20	2,012,977,326	14,400,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke4 Bh6 Kf3 Bh2 Kg4 Bhg3 Kf3 Bge5 Kg4 Bd4 Kf3 Bd2 Ke4 B6f4 Kd5 Bc1 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bg3 Ke6 Bcf4 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bd2 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bh2 Kf7 Bec3 Ke6
    45/70	03:18	2,837,020,507	14,346,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bh2 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bhe5 Ke6 Bh6 Kd7 Bg5 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bbc1 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 B1f4
    45/70	03:18	2,837,021,622	14,346,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bh2 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Ba1 Ke6 Bh2 Kf5 Bhe5 Ke6 Bh6 Kd7 Bg5 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bf4 Kf5 Bbc1 Ke4 Bc7 Kf3 B1f4
    46/70	03:30	3,013,694,877	14,337,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bcd2 Kg6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhc1 Ke4 Bbd4 Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bh2 Kf5 Be3 Ke6 Bcd4 Ke7 Bg3 Ke8 Bd2 Kf7 Bd6
    46/70	03:30	3,013,867,884	14,337,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bcd2 Kg6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhc1 Ke4 Bbd4 Kf3 Bc3 Kg4 Bh2 Kf5 Be3 Ke6 Bcd4 Ke7 Bg3 Ke8 Bd2 Kf7 Bd6
    47/78	04:03	3,531,482,028	14,530,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bcd2 Kg6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhc1 Ke4 Bbd4 Kd5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bdf4 Ke7 Bg3 Kf7 Bce5 Kg6 Bef4 Kf7 Ba1
    47/78	04:03	3,531,483,235	14,530,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc1 Kf5 Beb2 Ke6 Bde5 Kf5 Bef4 Ke4 Bd4 Kf5 Bcd2 Kg6 Bfe5 Kf5 Bb2 Kg4 Bh6 Kf3 Bhc1 Ke4 Bbd4 Kd5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc7 Kd7 Bdf4 Ke7 Bg3 Kf7 Bce5 Kg6 Bef4 Kf7 Ba1
    48/78	04:29	3,924,308,726	14,560,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Bde5 Ke7 Bbc1 Ke6 Bdc3 Kf5 B3b2 Ke6 Bbd4 Ke7 Bc3 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bb8 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bef4 Kd7 Bc1d2 Ke7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bh6
    48/78	04:29	3,924,340,320	14,560,000	-25.03	Kf3 Bd6 Ke4 Bc1 Kf3 Bd2 Kg4 Bge1 Kf5 Bc3 Ke6 Bce5 Kf5 Bd2 Ke6 Bc7 Kf5 Bb2 Ke6 Bg3 Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Bde5 Ke7 Bbc1 Ke6 Bdc3 Kf5 B3b2 Ke6 Bbd4 Ke7 Bc3 Kd7 Bg3 Ke6 Bb8 Kd7 Bbe5 Ke6 Bef4 Kd7 Bc1d2 Ke7 Bfe5 Ke6 Bg3 Kd7 Bd4 Ke6 Bh6
   2017-03-14 4:49:26 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00
As long as all the white pawns stay put, it is an obvious draw.
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Re: Penrose Puzzle

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:02 am

The real question isn't "Which strong engine can solve this", but rather, "Which strong engine can't solve this.

Simple inspection of the pv will show you that the big three all solve this problem immediately.

We could go so far as to argue that the evals are also correct, because there is a huge material advantage.

If the white side were to do something so foolish as to capture one of the rooks with a pawn, he would lose immediately.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
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