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The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by mclane » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:59 am

Computerchess is not alone about software,
Computerchess is also about dedicated chess computers.

In the last years computerchess invaded tablet pcs and mobile phones.
Due to the progress in hardware we have today octacore mobiles that run stockfish and other programs/apps.


But computerchess is not only about universal little computers who can run several apps/programs. There was a time when we had dedicated chess computers, who could only play chess.

Those were the days of
Spracklen, kittinger, Richard Lang, Thomas nitsche and Elmer henne, Ron Nelson and Kaare danielsen, Frans morsch, Ed Schroeder and David broughton, mark Taylor, Christian donninger and guyla horvath, Johan de Koning and Larry Atkin, Julio Kaplan and many others, who put their chess program in a tiny hardware with or without sensor chess board.

This thread is about these masterpieces of specialized jobs.

While we change mobile phones almost any 3 months, the dedicated chess computers of the 70ies and 80ies still work and run without any problems.

And while my mobile smartphone needs a new energy charging almost each night or with better phone each second evening, the dedicated chess computers often run on battery many weeks.

Today we want to discuss the upgrade of the fidelity designer 2000/2100 8bit computer into the fidelity designer Mach 2325 (Mach IV) 32 bit.

There is an upgrade possible if your machine is still working and all sensor contacts are running as they should. The motherboard gets replaced and you can buy the rare Mach IV and try it out at home.
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by mclane » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:16 am

This is how the mach IV alias Designer 2325
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... 325_Master

plays

[pgn]Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "29.07.2014"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto Montreal"]
[Black "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. cxd5 cxd5 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bf4 Bf5 7. e3 e6 8. Bd3
Bxd3 9. Qxd3 Be7 10. O-O O-O 11. Bg5 Nd7 12. Bxe7 Qxe7 13. Rac1 Nb6 14. Rfe1
Rad8 15. b3 Nd7 16. e4 dxe4 17. Qxe4 Nf6 18. Qd3 Qb4 19. Rcd1 Qa5 20. a4 Nb4
21. Qc4 Rc8 22. Qb5 b6 23. Qxa5 bxa5 24. Nb5 a6 25. Nd6 Rc3 26. Re3 Rc2 27. Ne1
Rc7 28. Nc4 Nfd5 29. Rh3 Nc6 30. Nf3 Rd8 31. Kf1 Nde7 32. Nce5 f6 33. Nxc6 Rxc6
34. Ne1 Nd5 35. Nd3 h6 36. Nb2 Rc2 37. Nc4 Kh7 38. Re1 Nf4 39. Rhe3 Rxd4 40. g3
Nh3 41. R1e2 Rxe2 42. Rxe2 e5 43. Kg2 Ng5 44. Nxa5 Rd3 45. Rc2 Ne4 46. Rc6 Rd2
47. Rxa6 Rxf2+ 48. Kg1 Ra2 49. Rc6 Ng5 50. Rc3 e4 51. h4 Nf3+ 52. Kf1 Nh2+ 53.
Kg1 Ng4 54. Nc6 Rd2 55. Kf1 e3 56. Ke1 Rg2 57. a5 Rxg3 58. a6 Rg1+ 59. Ke2 Rg2+
60. Kd1 g5 61. Nb4 gxh4 62. a7 Rg1+ 63. Ke2 Ra1 64. Rc4 Ne5 65. Rc7+ Kg6 66.
Nc2 Ra2 67. Kxe3 h3 68. Kf2 Ng4+ 69. Kg1 h2+ 70. Kh1 f5 71. b4 f4 72. b5 f3 73.
Rc6+ Kg5 74. Rc5+ Kh4 75. Rc4 {und Mach IV kuendigt mit 76...f2 ein Matt in 6 an}
0-1


[Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "2014.08.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Saitek Explorer Pro 24 mhz"]
[Black "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[ECO "E60"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. g3 O-O 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O
Nc6 {"} 7. d5 {"} Na5 8. Na3 c5 9. Bd2 Ne4 10. Rb1 Nxd2
11. Qxd2 Bf5 12. Rbe1 Be4 13. b3 e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Bh3
Bf5 16. Bxf5 Rxf5 17. Rd1 Nc6 18. Qxd6 Nd4 19. Qxd8+ Rxd8
20. Kg2 Rff8 21. Nxd4 cxd4 22. f4 b6 23. h3 Rf5 24. Nb5 Rf7
25. Rd2 a6 26. Nc3 Rdf8 27. Na4 Rb8 28. Rf3 e5 29. fxe5
Bxe5 30. Rxf7 Kxf7 31. c5 bxc5 32. Nxc5 Rb6 33. Nd7 Re6
34. Nxe5+ Rxe5 35. Kf2 Rf5+ 36. Ke1 Rh5 37. h4 Ra5 38. a4
Rd5 39. e4 Rd8 40. Ke2 Ke6 41. Kd3 Rb8 42. Rc2 Rxb3+
43. Kxd4 Kd7 44. Rc3 Rb4+ 45. Rc4 Rb3 46. g4 Rh3 47. Kd5
Rxh4 48. e5 Ke7 49. e6 Rh1 50. Rc7+ Ke8 51. Ra7 Rg1 52. Kd6
Rd1+ 53. Ke5 h5 54. g5 a5 55. Rxa5 Rf1 56. Ra7 Rf3 57. Rg7
h4 58. a5 h3 59. Rxg6 Re3+ 60. Kd5 Rd3+ 61. Kc4 Rg3 62. a6
Ra3 63. a7 h2 64. Rh6 Rxa7 65. Rxh2 Ra5 66. Rg2 Ra4+
67. Kb5 Ra7 68. Re2 Ke7 69. g6 Ra8 70. g7 Rg8 71. Re1 Rxg7
72. Kc6 Rg5 73. Re4 Rh5 74. Re2 Ra5 75. Kb7 Rf5 76. Kc6 Ra5
77. Kb7 Rf5 78. Kc6 Ra5 1/2-1/2

[Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "10.08.2014"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Novag Star Diamond"]
[Black "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. O-O-O d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Bd4 e5 13. Bc5 Re8 14. Nxd5
cxd5 15. Bb5 Bd7 16. Bxd7 Qxd7 17. Qxd5 Qc7 18. Bd6 Qb6 19. Qc5 e4 20. Qxb6
axb6 21. fxe4 Rxa2 22. Ba3 Ra1+ 23. Kd2 Rxd1+ 24. Rxd1 Rxe4 25. Re1 Bh6+ 26.
Kd1 f5 27. c3 Kf7 28. Bd6 Rxe1+ 29. Kxe1 Ke6 30. Bc7 b5 31. Ke2 Bf8 32. Kd3 Kd5
33. Bb6 Bd6 34. h3
1/2-1/2

[Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "11.08.2014"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[Black "Novag Star Diamond"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Bg4 8. e5
dxe5 9. dxe5 Nd5 10. h3 Nxc3 11. bxc3 Bf5 12. Bxf5 Qxd1 13. Rxd1 gxf5 14. Nd4
Rfd8 15. Be3 f6 16. exf6 Nxd4 17. fxe7 Ne2+ 18. Kf2 Re8 19. Kxe2 Rxe7 20. Rd3
c5 21. Rf1 Rae8 22. Rf3 c4 23. Rd5 Bxc3 24. Kf2 Be1+ 25. Kxe1 Rxe3+ 26. Rxe3
Rxe3+ 27. Kd1 Rg3 28. Rxf5 b6 29. Rg5+ Rxg5 30. fxg5 Kf7 31. Kd2 Kg6 32. Kc3
Kxg5 33. Kxc4 Kh4 34. Kb5 Kg5 35. a4 Kf5 36. Ka6 Ke6 37. Kxa7 Kd7 38. Kxb6
1-0

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by fern » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:08 pm

Except by me, you will not find much responses here about this topic. People here is more interested in "benchmarking" those little contrivances than in any dedicated comp. Many here were not even born in those times.....
You must go to Hiarcs forum where everything is dedicated and there you fin master of ceremonies, Mr Blincoe.

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Steve B » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:36 pm

How Ironic

one of the very few posts about dedicated chess computers to be made here in years...
and from all the possible topics...
Thor discusses a modified computer

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by fern » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:38 pm

...and maybe if we follow suite with something else and even we add a joke or two, the thread will be considered "off topic" and we will have our knuckles mauled with a ruler....

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread.

Post by Ajedrecista » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:33 pm

Hello Fernando:
fern wrote:Except by me, you will not find much responses here about this topic. People here is more interested in "benchmarking" those little contrivances than in any dedicated comp. Many here were not even born in those times.....
You must go to Hiarcs forum where everything is dedicated and there you fin master of ceremonies, Mr Blincoe.

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An interesting question could be how many people here still own a dedicated chess computer. I own one of weak strength (like me) since 2005 or 2006. It is called Computachess III by Hanimex HCG 1700, so I own it before my interest of computer chess (Toga II and Rybka 2.3.2a under Arena 2.0.1 were my first experiences around year 2008 IIRC). Here are some links of Computachess III:

Computachess III

CXG Computachess III

Hanimex Computachess III (HCG 1700)

The last link is how my machine looks, not like the other two. Even the manual is the same to the one shown on the third link (by the way, I have two manuals: one in English and the other one in Spanish). It has eight levels of play of increasing difficulty: I often win in level 3 and even 4, but higher levels spend an insane amount of time in each move, except very few moves in the opening.

The chess pieces are not exactly Staunton's style; in fact, I do not know their style. Disgracefully I play with it once a year or even less. Not a strong machine but still a piece of history. Don't you think so?

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread.

Post by fern » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:54 pm

Hola Jesus:
Tengo la impresion que esta maquina es un clon de Chess Challenger sensory 8.
Por el año del procesador, por el número de niveles, por la debilidadd e su juego....

un abrazo
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread.

Post by Ajedrecista » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:03 pm

¡Hola!
fern wrote:Hola Jesus:
Tengo la impresion que esta maquina es un clon de Chess Challenger sensory 8.
Por el año del procesador, por el número de niveles, por la debilidadd e su juego....

un abrazo
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La verdad es que en el tercer enlace que puse viene a decir que Hanimex hizo trampa porque clonó el CXG Computachess II. He echado un vistazo a la parte de abajo de la máquina y donde viene el número de serie (que nunca lo había mirado) también viene la fecha escrita a bolígrafo: 2/84 (febrero de 1.984).

Saludos desde España.

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I do not want to be rude so I will tranlate my post into English:

The truth is that in the third link I copied, it says that Hanimex cheated because it cloned CXG Computachess II. I took a glance to the bottom of the machine and where it is the serial number (which I have never looked), it is also present the date code written in pen: 2/84 (February of 1984).

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread.

Post by fern » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Well, I see it is not a CCF clone.
Perhaps it could be said that in that low level of playing all machines are clones of an universal patzer....:-)

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by mclane » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:14 pm

[pgn]
[Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "12.08.2014"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[Black "Mephisto Master"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 g6 4. e5 Bg7 5. f4 Nh6 6. Bd3 O-O 7. Nf3 Bf5 8. O-O
Bxd3 9. Qxd3 Nd7 10. Kh1 Nb6 11. a4 Re8 12. a5 Nd7 13. Ng5 Nf8 14. Bd2 Rb8 15.
Ne2 Nf5 16. Ng3 Nxg3+ 17. Qxg3 Qc8 18. Qd3 h6 19. Nh3 e6 20. Bb4 b5 21. axb6
axb6 22. Ra7 c5 23. Ba3 Rb7 24. Rxb7 c4 25. Qe3 Qxb7 26. Nf2 b5 27. c3 Ra8 28.
Ng4 Kh7 29. Rf3 Nd7 30. Rh3 h5 31. Qe1 Ra6 32. Ne3 Qa7 33. f5 b4 34. Bxb4 Ra1
35. fxg6+ fxg6
0-1

[Event "40/120"]
[Site "scw"]
[Date "12.08.2014"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Fidelity Designer 2325"]
[Black "Mephisto Master"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. e4 dxe4 8. Nxe4
Nxe4 9. Bxe4 O-O 10. O-O c5 11. dxc5 Nxc5 12. Bc2 a5 13. Qd4 Be7 14. Qe5 Qb6
15. Be3 Rd8 16. Rad1 Bd7 17. Bd4 f6 18. Qh5 h6 19. Qg6 Kf8 20. Qh7 e5 21. Nxe5
fxe5 22. Bxe5
1-0
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