First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

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First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by Mike S. » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:33 pm

2m+0,5s, i5-3210M/2,5...2,9 GHz
1 thread, ponder off
256 MB hashtables each
Correspondence chess openings
up to move 10, repeated reversed
Arena 3.5, Windows 8 x64

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   Engine           Score   Se Ho Ry Ga Fr Ni Ch Cr   S-B
1: Senpai 1.0       12,5/14 ·· =1 == 11 11 11 11 11   72,25
2: Houdini 1.5a     10,5/14 =0 ·· 1= 01 11 =1 11 11   59,00
3: Rybka 2.3.2a     9,5/14  == 0= ·· =1 == 11 1= 11   53,75
4: Gaviota 1.0      6,5/14  00 10 =0 ·· 0= == 1= 11   34,50
5: Fruit re 2.1     6,0/14  00 00 == 1= ·· =0 =1 =1   31,75
6: Nirvanachess 1.5 4,0/14  00 =0 00 == =1 ·· =0 =0   24,25
7: Cheng  4_0.36c   3,5/14  00 00 0= 0= =0 =1 ·· 0=   18,75
8: Crafty 23.8      3,5/14  00 00 00 00 =0 =1 1= ··   14,25

56 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Engineflut_2014
Impressive :mrgreen: But relative to the intermediate result from the current IPON test (2000+ games already) Senpai seems to have overperformed here. - Maybe the reversed is true for Fruit reloaded. Future will tell. I thank all programmers for their great effort.
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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by IanO » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:15 pm

Fabien has mentioned Senpai is on par with Protector in strength. It appears to have a better understanding of minor piece usage in the endgame, often obtaining a win with minor and pawns vs. rook. In my testing, Senpai has a slight edge over Protector 1.5 at blitz controls (+27=33-19 so far). The search appears to be more efficient as well, obtaining three ply more depth despite three times slower nps.

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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by Mike S. » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:27 pm

In my testing, Senpai has a slight edge over Protector 1.5 at blitz controls (+27=33-19 so far).
That tendency corresponds with the intermediate head-to-head result at IPON:

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Senpai 1.0 - Protector 1.5.0 (2834)		74.5	-	70.5		51.38%		Perf=2843
Promising.
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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by ernest » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:39 pm

Mike S. wrote:
In my testing, Senpai has a slight edge over Protector 1.5 at blitz controls (+27=33-19 so far).
That tendency ...

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Senpai 1.0 - Protector 1.5.0 (2834)		74.5	-	70.5		51.38%		Perf=2843
Again, with less than 150 games, this only means that both engines are on par (as Fabien said).

There is no tendency (other than giving hasty interpretation to partial results :D)...

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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:45 pm

Mike S. wrote:2m+0,5s, i5-3210M/2,5...2,9 GHz
1 thread, ponder off
256 MB hashtables each
Correspondence chess openings
up to move 10, repeated reversed
Arena 3.5, Windows 8 x64

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   Engine           Score   Se Ho Ry Ga Fr Ni Ch Cr   S-B
1: Senpai 1.0       12,5/14 ·· =1 == 11 11 11 11 11   72,25
2: Houdini 1.5a     10,5/14 =0 ·· 1= 01 11 =1 11 11   59,00
3: Rybka 2.3.2a     9,5/14  == 0= ·· =1 == 11 1= 11   53,75
4: Gaviota 1.0      6,5/14  00 10 =0 ·· 0= == 1= 11   34,50
5: Fruit re 2.1     6,0/14  00 00 == 1= ·· =0 =1 =1   31,75
6: Nirvanachess 1.5 4,0/14  00 =0 00 == =1 ·· =0 =0   24,25
7: Cheng  4_0.36c   3,5/14  00 00 0= 0= =0 =1 ·· 0=   18,75
8: Crafty 23.8      3,5/14  00 00 00 00 =0 =1 1= ··   14,25

56 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Engineflut_2014
Impressive :mrgreen: But relative to the intermediate result from the current IPON test (2000+ games already) Senpai seems to have overperformed here. - Maybe the reversed is true for Fruit reloaded. Future will tell. I thank all programmers for their great effort.

Thanks for the update dear Mike!

Btw,
What kind of this version is Senpai 1.0 et al ?

For example,
In Turkish means et al = take meat :)


Best,
Sedat

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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by michiguel » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:10 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mike S. wrote:2m+0,5s, i5-3210M/2,5...2,9 GHz
1 thread, ponder off
256 MB hashtables each
Correspondence chess openings
up to move 10, repeated reversed
Arena 3.5, Windows 8 x64

Code: Select all

   Engine           Score   Se Ho Ry Ga Fr Ni Ch Cr   S-B
1: Senpai 1.0       12,5/14 ·· =1 == 11 11 11 11 11   72,25
2: Houdini 1.5a     10,5/14 =0 ·· 1= 01 11 =1 11 11   59,00
3: Rybka 2.3.2a     9,5/14  == 0= ·· =1 == 11 1= 11   53,75
4: Gaviota 1.0      6,5/14  00 10 =0 ·· 0= == 1= 11   34,50
5: Fruit re 2.1     6,0/14  00 00 == 1= ·· =0 =1 =1   31,75
6: Nirvanachess 1.5 4,0/14  00 =0 00 == =1 ·· =0 =0   24,25
7: Cheng  4_0.36c   3,5/14  00 00 0= 0= =0 =1 ·· 0=   18,75
8: Crafty 23.8      3,5/14  00 00 00 00 =0 =1 1= ··   14,25

56 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Engineflut_2014
Impressive :mrgreen: But relative to the intermediate result from the current IPON test (2000+ games already) Senpai seems to have overperformed here. - Maybe the reversed is true for Fruit reloaded. Future will tell. I thank all programmers for their great effort.

Thanks for the update dear Mike!

Btw,
What kind of this version is Senpai 1.0 et al ?

For example,
In Turkish means et al = take meat :)


Best,
Sedat
et al. (should have a period) is a common abreviation in scientific references. It means, "and others" from et alii (latin).

Miguel

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Re: First blitz impressions: Senpai 1.0 et al

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:41 pm

michiguel wrote:
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mike S. wrote:2m+0,5s, i5-3210M/2,5...2,9 GHz
1 thread, ponder off
256 MB hashtables each
Correspondence chess openings
up to move 10, repeated reversed
Arena 3.5, Windows 8 x64

Code: Select all

   Engine           Score   Se Ho Ry Ga Fr Ni Ch Cr   S-B
1: Senpai 1.0       12,5/14 ·· =1 == 11 11 11 11 11   72,25
2: Houdini 1.5a     10,5/14 =0 ·· 1= 01 11 =1 11 11   59,00
3: Rybka 2.3.2a     9,5/14  == 0= ·· =1 == 11 1= 11   53,75
4: Gaviota 1.0      6,5/14  00 10 =0 ·· 0= == 1= 11   34,50
5: Fruit re 2.1     6,0/14  00 00 == 1= ·· =0 =1 =1   31,75
6: Nirvanachess 1.5 4,0/14  00 =0 00 == =1 ·· =0 =0   24,25
7: Cheng  4_0.36c   3,5/14  00 00 0= 0= =0 =1 ·· 0=   18,75
8: Crafty 23.8      3,5/14  00 00 00 00 =0 =1 1= ··   14,25

56 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Engineflut_2014
Impressive :mrgreen: But relative to the intermediate result from the current IPON test (2000+ games already) Senpai seems to have overperformed here. - Maybe the reversed is true for Fruit reloaded. Future will tell. I thank all programmers for their great effort.

Thanks for the update dear Mike!

Btw,
What kind of this version is Senpai 1.0 et al ?

For example,
In Turkish means et al = take meat :)


Best,
Sedat
et al. (should have a period) is a common abreviation in scientific references. It means, "and others" from et alii (latin).

Miguel
Thanks...now I see :)

I thought en al is a different version than the below one
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