My First Project : Toga2012

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Tennison
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Yes it 'd be a complete nice solution !!! ;-)

Thanks a lot ...
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Tennison wrote:Yes it 'd be a complete nice solution !!! ;-)

Thanks a lot ...
Ok. I will put a brief note in your original message. Sorry to edit it, but it will be the quickest solution.

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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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File removed from my web space ...
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Tennison wrote:File removed from my web space ...
Thanks for understanding and best luck in your project!!

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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Here is the results of the 3 min games

Nice results ...

;-)

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Test 5 : 3'
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Fritz 11 GUI / TB5 on / HS7movesplus.ctg

Toga 2012 beta 1.00 x64   +28/-22/=50   53.00%
Toga II 1.4 beta5c        +22/-28/=50   47.00%   
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Tennison wrote:Here is the results of the 3 min games

Nice results ...

;-)

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Test 5 : 3'
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Fritz 11 GUI / TB5 on / HS7movesplus.ctg

Toga 2012 beta 1.00 x64   +28/-22/=50   53.00%
Toga II 1.4 beta5c        +22/-28/=50   47.00%   
Hello Ben, and good luck with your project!

But be careful with those results: 100 games is nothing, when testing. I often saw a new version of my engine leading a test match by 20 or more won games after 100 games, and fail miserably if the test continued to 2000 games.

My suggestion: play at least 2000 games at a very fast pace (my tests, for example, are done at 0 second for the whole game plus 100 milliseconds by move).
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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I know 100 is not enough but there you can see 500 results :

Test 1+ Test 2 + Test 3 + Test 4 + Test 5 =500

The result is :

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Toga2012 :              252,5
Toga II 1.4 beta 5c :   247,5 
So this is enough for me to have an idea : the compile is not COMPLETELY buggy ... ;-)


When I try quicker than the tests I show abose the engines (original one and my compile) loses lot of games on time ... :-(
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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I am quite sure the reason for this (losing on time) is that you use Arena or other GUI.
I would recommend you (if it doesn't matter) to use something like Cutechess-cli, which is much faster because there is no graphics. I am quite sure you can use 4 seconds with 100 ms increment without any problems.
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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ethanara wrote:I am quite sure the reason for this (losing on time) is that you use Arena or other GUI.
I would recommend you (if it doesn't matter) to use something like Cutechess-cli, which is much faster because there is no graphics. I am quite sure you can use 4 seconds with 100 ms increment without any problems.
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I do my test under Arena with 0s + 100ms increment and have no loss on time, despite my engine is far from being the most reactive one in the world. :) So the problem comes from somewhere else. (Arena probably compensates for the lag the graphics would produce).
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Re: My First Project : Toga2012

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Tennison wrote:
michiguel wrote:
pocopito wrote:Nice

On the other hand if you get a compiled version for linux maybe you'll find more testers for your project :)

EDIT: well, for what Miguel says reltaed to GPL code it doesn't seem to be that nice, but in any case good luck with your project! Besides, I guess the more open you make your project the more you can get feedback from the community.
As I said, we should welcome Ben in his endeavor, but there is no other option than removing the link. It is a direct violation of the license. When he is ready with the source code, we should be happy to allow the distribution of his modifications.

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I understand well but without some testers I can't be sure the slightly modified source don't weaken the original project ...

I just need some testers for 2 or 3 days (just to finish cleaning the files).

It's why I'll give the source in 2 or 3 days ...

Is this a so big problem 2 or 3 days at max ???
As Miguel said, "yes it is." The GPL is not open for debate/discussion, it is quite clear. If you distribute a binary, you have to provide the source. At the same time. not a day, or a week, or a year later.