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A Simple Proposal....

Post by fern » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:41 pm

Has not been enough the thousands of posts concerning Rybka, concerning his author, concerning Hipolytt, concerning Ivanhoe, concerning defenders or acusers, concerning clones, concerning insults from one side and the other?
Aren't you tired of these long threads where one guy after another add his own atom of wise considerations and, some times, many times, derogative attacks? Do you still belive that all this will take us to a clear and definire result, to a conclusion? Have not, you guys, learned from life how inuseful these discussions are? Are you disarmed in front of the hormonal pressures to be a part of the fight?
In brief, are you still 12 years old?
Curiously, when steven Blincoe and me engaged, time ago, perhaps a year or two ago, in a thread full of humor, jokes and glad considerations, we were amputated because we were "off topic". Now, as a moderator, I must let this ocean of of irrelevant fights because they are ON topic.
Shame...
So my simple proposal to these champions iof this or that cause is: get lost....

Fern, really pissed off....

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by hgm » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:23 pm

Wel, you can complain in general, but I guess you know as well as I do that there is one specific person whose only reason for presence on this forum is to start such threads. In the most insulting manner to some respected members, I can add. As long as the moderators allow him to start such threads, and are very tardy in removing them because you live in a different time zone, what did you expect?

You are moderator, and you should no the effective way to treat such persons, methinks...

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by Eelco de Groot » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:48 pm

I propose a simple automatic script, that should also cover Talkchess from accusations of promoting illegal clones. Every mention of "Rybka" from now on will be automatically replaced by "Fruit 3.X" so Rybka 3 is Fruit 3.3 etc. All mentions of Rybka clones are to be replaced by the designation "Fruit 4.X". Okay if Chessbase is going to sell Houdini 2 they can do so if they put "Original Fruit 5.0 programmed by Fabien 1.4 Houdart and Fabien 1.3 Rajlich" on the CD-rom box. Juri F. Osipov is also one of the Fabien 1.4 clones. I think this will greatly simplify following all the discussions, especially for all the lawyers hired by the different parties, coming here to sort out this Gordian knot of Fruit threads. You as moderators have the means to solve this. How about it?

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by K I Hyams » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:20 pm

Eelco de Groot wrote:I propose a simple automatic script, that should also cover Talkchess from accusations of promoting illegal clones. Every mention of "Rybka" from now on will be automatically replaced by "Fruit 3.X" so Rybka 3 is Fruit 3.3 etc. All mentions of Rybka clones are to be replaced by the designation "Fruit 4.X". Okay if Chessbase is going to sell Houdini 2 they can do so if they put "Original Fruit 5.0 programmed by Fabien 1.4 Houdart and Fabien 1.3 Rajlich" on the CD-rom box. Juri F. Osipov is also one of the Fabien 1.4 clones. I think this will greatly simplify following all the discussions, especially for all the lawyers hired by the different parties, coming here to sort out this Gordian knot of Fruit threads. You as moderators have the means to solve this. How about it?

Regards, Eelco
Very nice, Eelco.

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by fern » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:05 pm

Unfortunately one thing are my personal tastes about threads and another is my authotity to erase them. No matter how idiotic I find a thread, if it is legal it must be kept and/or it does not brings complains.

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by Steve B » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:26 pm

fern wrote:Unfortunately one thing are my personal tastes about threads and another is my authotity to erase them. No matter how idiotic I find a thread, if it is legal it must be kept and/or it does not brings complains.

fern
Yes our humorous posts were deleted and tossed aside as junk
expunged and erased
discarded like yesterdays bread
to be fair though..we did go on a bit too much at times
not so much me..but you certainly did
:P

Laughing Stock Regards
Steve

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by fern » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:20 pm

Besides our little joke this infinite hread about the open letter by fabian which already produces in me an attacks of nerves is a colosal piece of junk or at least it became that.
My God, all people here writting about it as madmen.
Isn't an episode of the TV soap opera regards?
Fern

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by Tom Barrister » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:27 pm

fern wrote:Has not been enough the thousands of posts concerning Rybka, concerning his author, concerning Hipolytt, concerning Ivanhoe, concerning defenders or acusers, concerning clones, concerning insults from one side and the other?
Aren't you tired of these long threads where one guy after another add his own atom of wise considerations and, some times, many times, derogative attacks? Do you still belive that all this will take us to a clear and definire result, to a conclusion? Have not, you guys, learned from life how inuseful these discussions are? Are you disarmed in front of the hormonal pressures to be a part of the fight?

So my simple proposal to these champions iof this or that cause is: get lost....

Fern, really pissed off....
While it doesn't matter much to me anymore, you should know that everybody isn't going to lay off. I've grown tired of it myself, and I would have been gone long ago if it wasn't for people like Mr. Speight.

You're part of the moderation team. You can forbid talk about the Rybka/Ippolit/Fruit clone situation and punish offenders. Or you can close the forum. Or you can accept the fact that since it's our time to spend as we please, some of us will probably spend it talking about this.
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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by geots » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:41 pm

Tom Barrister wrote:
fern wrote:Has not been enough the thousands of posts concerning Rybka, concerning his author, concerning Hipolytt, concerning Ivanhoe, concerning defenders or acusers, concerning clones, concerning insults from one side and the other?
Aren't you tired of these long threads where one guy after another add his own atom of wise considerations and, some times, many times, derogative attacks? Do you still belive that all this will take us to a clear and definire result, to a conclusion? Have not, you guys, learned from life how inuseful these discussions are? Are you disarmed in front of the hormonal pressures to be a part of the fight?

So my simple proposal to these champions iof this or that cause is: get lost....

Fern, really pissed off....
While it doesn't matter much to me anymore, you should know that everybody isn't going to lay off. I've grown tired of it myself, and I would have been gone long ago if it wasn't for people like Mr. Speight.

You're part of the moderation team. You can forbid talk about the Rybka/Ippolit/Fruit clone situation and punish offenders. Or you can close the forum. Or you can accept the fact that since it's our time to spend as we please, some of us will probably spend it talking about this.
Im asking you to please not mention my name any longer in any of your threads. Thanks

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Re: A Simple Proposal....

Post by Steve B » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:49 pm

fern wrote:Besides our little joke this infinite hread about the open letter by fabian which already produces in me an attacks of nerves is a colosal piece of junk or at least it became that.
My God, all people here writting about it as madmen.
Isn't an episode of the TV soap opera regards?
Fern
your just a bit exhausted from moderating for two consecutive terms..
at least you can take comfort in the fact that although the pay is very low .. there are great retirement benefits for being a moderator
now that i am in retirement i have a great dental plan
Winning Smile Regards
Steve

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