QUESTION: Tournaments and Opening Books?

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Kirk
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Re: QUESTION: Tournaments and Opening Books?

Post by Kirk »

Sedat Canbaz wrote:

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I would think a "bookless" engine tournament would be very interesting
I have already 3 type of tournaments,where all engines have been played:
1.Without opening books,no tablebases
2.With same neutlar (Perfect 12.33) book+tablebases
3.With own books+tablebases

SCCT's 3 Type Tournaments:
http://www.sedatchess.com/scct_3type.html

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Sedat
Thank you

I will look at those! :)
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Re: QUESTION: Tournaments and Opening Books?

Post by govert »

kingliveson wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
govert wrote:So what's the alternative?
I guess you need a bunch of different starting positions, but how do you determine the lack of bias towards a particular engine?
Allowing each engine to play as both White and Black from a given starting position should help minimise that concern.
When both plays the same position it can't really be called bias especially if there are more than a handful positions. There are some test suites you can download. Nunn, Silver Suite (Albert Silver), and ECO Variations (mine).
Where can I find the ECO variations?


Would the full set of Nunn+Silver+ECO variations have a lot of overlap?
kingliveson

Re: QUESTION: Tournaments and Opening Books?

Post by kingliveson »

govert wrote:
kingliveson wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
govert wrote:So what's the alternative?
I guess you need a bunch of different starting positions, but how do you determine the lack of bias towards a particular engine?
Allowing each engine to play as both White and Black from a given starting position should help minimise that concern.
When both plays the same position it can't really be called bias especially if there are more than a handful positions. There are some test suites you can download. Nunn, Silver Suite (Albert Silver), and ECO Variations (mine).
Where can I find the ECO variations?


Would the full set of Nunn+Silver+ECO variations have a lot of overlap?
I don't think there should be an overlap...you can read the description of each test set:

Nunn
Silver
ECO
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Re: QUESTION: Tournaments and Opening Books?

Post by govert »

thanks for the links!