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IWB
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Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by IWB » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:23 pm

Hello all

Deep Shredder 12 for WINDOWS, MAC and LINUX will be available around midnight at www.shredderchess.com or www.shredderchess.de!

Here I have some more details about the engine:

1 THREAD
PONDER ON
256 MB Hash
6 min + 3 sec Time control
(3GHz Core2 speed)
only 4pc Shredderbases, Tablebases, Bitbases
Starting position, changing color
NO lerning (of course)
NO book
64 bit engines default, if 32 bit was used it is mentioned in the rating list

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Engine:
    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Rybka 3                         : 2827   10  10  3500    76.3 %   2624   31.5 %
2 Rybka 3 1T 32-bit               : 2766   14  14  1600    68.1 %   2634   35.1 %
3 Deep Shredder 12                : 2722   14  14  1600    64.1 %   2622   36.5 %
4 Rybka 2.3.2a                    : 2716    6   6  8800    62.6 %   2627   39.3 %
5 Naum 4                          : 2695    7   7  6000    55.0 %   2660   40.6 %
6 Rybka 2.2n2                     : 2681   10  10  2700    58.8 %   2620   41.3 %
7 Rybka 1.2f                      : 2668    6   6  8000    64.1 %   2568   33.8 %
8 Fritz 12 32-bit                 : 2645   17  17  1000    52.2 %   2630   41.0 %
9 Deep Fritz 11 32-bit            : 2636   14  14  1500    55.9 %   2595   38.6 %
10 Stockfish 1.4 JA               : 2624   13  13  1700    49.9 %   2625   38.4 %
12 Shredder Bonn 1T 32-bit        : 2621   10  10  3000    50.8 %   2616   40.0 %
13 Zappa Mexico II                : 2619    6   6  8700    46.3 %   2645   40.3 %
14 Deep Shredder 11               : 2600    9   9  3700    52.1 %   2585   39.4 %
15 Onno-1-1-1                     : 2598   13  13  1600    47.5 %   2615   41.2 %
16 Rybka 1.0                      : 2595   11  11  2500    53.2 %   2572   36.3 %
17 Zappa Mexico I                 : 2590    9   9  3600    53.2 %   2568   40.4 %
18 Naum 3.1 1T                    : 2589    7   7  5600    47.8 %   2604   38.9 %
19 Onno-1-0-0                     : 2584   13  13  1600    44.9 %   2620   39.9 %
20 DSjeng WC2008                  : 2576    7   7  5800    38.4 %   2658   35.6 %
21 Toga II 1.4 beta5c BB          : 2571    6   6  8200    39.1 %   2648   37.8 %
22 H12.1 MP 32-bit                : 2566    6   6  9300    38.3 %   2649   37.0 %
23 DSjeng 3.0                     : 2562   10  10  3200    41.0 %   2626   33.8 %
24 Glaurung 2.2 JA                : 2547    8   8  5400    34.1 %   2661   33.6 %
25 Naum 2.2                       : 2542   10  10  2700    43.5 %   2587   42.9 %
26 Rybka 1.0 32-bit               : 2540    8   8  4400    50.1 %   2540   33.2 %
27 HIARCS 11.2 32.bit             : 2534    7   7  6600    45.5 %   2566   36.3 %
28 Fruit 05/11/03 32-bit          : 2531    5   5 10200    36.0 %   2631   36.8 %
29 DS 10 Balmung                  : 2529   10  10  2600    49.9 %   2530   42.5 %
30 LoopMP 12.32 32-bit            : 2523    7   7  5600    44.7 %   2560   34.7 %
31 Loop 13.5 32-bit               : 2522    8   8  4700    43.4 %   2568   37.0 %
32 Toga II 1.2.1a                 : 2518    7   7  6600    46.6 %   2542   35.2 %
33 ListMP 11.64b                  : 2515   12  12  2200    44.0 %   2558   35.9 %
34 Glaurung 2.1                   : 2508   19  19   900    42.7 %   2559   33.9 %
35 Deep Shredder 10               : 2505    5   5 12100    35.3 %   2610   33.9 %
36 HIARCS 11 32-bit               : 2504   19  19   800    44.9 %   2540   36.4 %
37 Naum 2.1                       : 2503    9   9  3700    44.6 %   2541   36.4 %
38 Toga II 1.3x4                  : 2496   19  19   800    44.6 %   2534   38.9 %
39 Hiarcs X54                     : 2494   22  22   600    43.9 %   2537   36.5 %
40 Spike 1.2 Turin 32-bit         : 2479    5   5 13600    32.1 %   2609   33.1 %
41 DS 9.02 1T                     : 2464   16  16  1400    37.9 %   2551   29.1 %
42 Deep Sjeng 2.7                 : 2453   13  13  2000    31.2 %   2590   33.1 %
43 Glaurung 2-epsilon/5           : 2444   16  16  1300    34.8 %   2553   30.9 %
44 Deep Sjeng 2.5                 : 2385   20  20   900    29.9 %   2532   30.6 %

and the individual results for are:

Engine:

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3 Deep Shredder 12 x64 1T   : 2722  1600 (+734,=584,-282), 64.1 %

Zappa Mexico II x64           : 100 (+ 47,= 37,- 16), 65.5 %
Deep Shredder 10 x64          : 100 (+ 67,= 28,-  5), 81.0 %
Spike 1.2 Turin               : 100 (+ 66,= 26,-  8), 79.0 %
Fruit 05/11/03                : 100 (+ 60,= 29,- 11), 74.5 %
Rybka 2.3.2a mp               : 100 (+ 33,= 45,- 22), 55.5 %
H12.1 MP                      : 100 (+ 58,= 35,-  7), 75.5 %
Toga II 1.4 beta5c BB         : 100 (+ 64,= 30,-  6), 79.0 %
Rybka 3                       : 100 (+ 15,= 40,- 45), 35.0 %
Rybka 2.2n2 mp                : 100 (+ 34,= 39,- 27), 53.5 %
DSjeng WC2008 x64             : 100 (+ 41,= 42,- 17), 62.0 %
Naum 4                        : 100 (+ 38,= 33,- 29), 54.5 %
Glaurung 2.2 JA               : 100 (+ 50,= 40,- 10), 70.0 %
Rybka 3 1T 32-bit             : 100 (+ 25,= 44,- 31), 47.0 %
Stockfish 1.4 JA              : 100 (+ 41,= 43,- 16), 62.5 %
Fritz 12                      : 100 (+ 41,= 40,- 19), 61.0 %
Onno-1-1-1                    : 100 (+ 54,= 33,- 13), 70.5 %

Enjoy it
Ingo

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by jpqy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:32 pm

Wow,that is a great result from Deep Shredder 12!! :o
And this is only on 1core...

JP.

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by Eelco de Groot » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:11 pm

Very good, Ingo! Udo Kaiser already had posted on the German forum that we could expect something this weekend but you never know if there is a delay and there was no mention of his sources. Congratulations to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen and the team with the new Shredder! I hope there is a discount possible for Shredder 11 owners...

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by Andre » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:45 pm

Thanks... Will there be a new Shredder GUI?

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by yanquis1972 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:00 pm

well im assuming the other engines are 1T as well. if not, this is simply stunning.

as is, its the absolute best of what i was hoping for. beats naum 4 & has what ive heard is a great GUI to boot. looking forward to owning this.

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by George Tsavdaris » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:48 pm

Great results!! I continue to be astonished(and sad) though about the results against Rybka 3.
Rybka 3 is a true monster. :x
Very good sign is that Shredder 12 is able to beat the previous monster Rybka 2.3.2a.

Is there any chance of providing all the games of this tournament?
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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by Robert Flesher » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:28 pm

Good news......still waiting with credit card in hand. I'd love to see some games.......:P

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by Robert Flesher » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:14 am

I just purchased Deep Shredder 12 and watched it crush Rybka 3.0 twice. All I can say is WOW! More to come

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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by Trahald » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:00 am

Robert Flesher wrote:I just purchased Deep Shredder 12 and watched it crush Rybka 3.0 twice. All I can say is WOW! More to come
I've looked at the site, but would be very happy to hear from someone who has already purchased Shredder 12. Could you briefly point out the main new features of the GUI, or simply which is your favourite new feature?

Looks promising so far!
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Re: Shredder 12 infos and release date

Post by IWB » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:19 am

Robert Flesher wrote:I just purchased Deep Shredder 12 and watched it crush Rybka 3.0 twice. All I can say is WOW! More to come
Without any prove, just as a feeling, the longer the time control the better is the performance vs Rybka (if equal oob). I am eager to see the CEGT and CCRL relusts on some longer time controls, not to talk about the SSDF.

Bye
Ingo

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