Strelka = Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

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Strelka = Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by OliverBr » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:22 am

Why doesn't Rybka's author public its sources?
People should invent their own engine!


My big respect for the great programmers Bob Hyatt and Tord Romstadt and their fantastic programms that are OPEN SOURCE and no clones.

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Re: Strelka = Rybka = Fruit = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by Le Fou numerique » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:50 am

Hi,

You must take Fruit in the first position Fruit = Toga and so on.

The sources of Fruit were open source.

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Re: Strelka = Rybka = Fruit = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by OliverBr » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:25 am

There is no cronical order anyway. I know that all of these programs are open source except for Rybka.

I think the author of Rybka is contradicting himself. After the first claims that Strelka could be a Rybka clone, he was relaxed and said Rybka1.0 is ancient and everybody can do with he what he wants. But he doesn't publish the source. So why?

Later he was quite angry when he detected that Strelka is really a clone. So what now? Relaxed? Angry? Furious?

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Re: Strelka = Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 = Toga?? Oh how disappoin

Post by Golem » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:14 am

Oh no, the never-ending story has been restarted... :evil:

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Re: Strelka = Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 = Toga?? Oh how disappoin

Post by Peter Aloysius » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:59 am

You're completely wrong.

Strelka is already proven to not contain any part of Rybka code, because Yuri is smart enough to change variables name. He is also smart enough to change the order of variables declaration.

He is completely right when he think he can fool us all.

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Re: Strelka = Rybka = Fruit = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by John Conway » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:05 am

OliverBr wrote:Later he was quite angry when he detected that Strelka is really a clone.
Was that when he detected that Strelka was really a Rybka clone or was it when he detected that Strelka was really a Fruit clone?

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Re: Strelka = Rybka = Fruit = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by Le Fou numerique » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:28 am

OliverBr wrote:There is no cronical order anyway. I know that all of these programs are open source except for Rybka.
Hi,

But the first source was Fruit.

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Re: Strelka = Rybka = Fruit = Toga?? Oh how disappointing

Post by OliverBr » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:13 pm

John Conway wrote:
OliverBr wrote:Later he was quite angry when he detected that Strelka is really a clone.
Was that when he detected that Strelka was really a Rybka clone or was it when he detected that Strelka was really a Fruit clone?
when he detected that Strelka was really a Rybka clone; I am referring to this article by Vasik Rajlich:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=3006

PS: I am not so sure, if Rajlich is a class act, what the first replier claims. But I know a lot of friends of open source chess, who are really class acts, like Dann Corbit, Uri Blass, Tord Romstad, Bob Hyatt etc...etc....[/b]

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Re: Strelka = Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 = Toga?? Oh how disappoin

Post by Uri Blass » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:34 pm

OliverBr wrote:Why doesn't Rybka's author public its sources?
People should invent their own engine!


My big respect for the great programmers Bob Hyatt and Tord Romstadt and their fantastic programms that are OPEN SOURCE and no clones.

-Oliver
I do not agree with Strelka=Fruit2.1

Strelka is a bitboard program and Fruit2.1 is not a bitboard program.
Most of strelka's code is not in Fruit.

Evaluation is also not the same.

Even if we replace = by the relation ~ and decide that ~ means that most of the code is the same(I do not consider changing variable names
as a real change) then I guess that you only have

1)Strelka1.0~Rybka1.0
2)Fruit2.1~Toga.

Uri

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The Apocalypse after Oliver Brausch !

Post by Sylwy » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:39 pm

OliverBr wrote:Why doesn't Rybka's author public its sources?
People should invent their own engine!


My big respect for the great programmers Bob Hyatt and Tord Romstadt and their fantastic programms that are OPEN SOURCE and no clones.

-Oliver

Ohhhhhhhhh !
No-no-no-no-no-no...................
We are again in the path to the maximum point of the monthly scandal sinusoide unleashed by CTRHZWNS.
Now the kamikaze is Oliver B. !
Not nice !

1."Why doesn't Rybka's author public its sources?" (Oliver B. )

If Rybka 1.0 =Fruit 2.1 ( like you posted ) what to do with Rybka 1.0 code ? Heroic poems for CTRHZWNS ??????

2."My big respect for the great programmers Bob Hyatt ...."(Oliver B. )

I know. Everywhere and everytime the owner is the biggest, the strongest, the............

3."....fantastic programms ...."(Oliver B.)

Only fantastic ? Nothing about scientific .... ????

4."that are OPEN SOURCE and no clones."
Where are the clones ??? Your assertion is under criminal law without any demonstration !

If you are a good programmer (IF !!!! ) let us know -please- the demonstration !
If not , stop talking please !

My 0,000000002 (euro) cents,
Silvian

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