Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

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Enrico

Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

Post by Enrico » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:06 am

[Event "Fritz vs Junior Match"]
[Site "Elista"]
[Date "2007/6/8"]
[Round "R1 G3"]
[White "Deep Junior"]
[Black "Deep Fritz"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Board "a.g2451dg"]
[Input "DGT3242"]
[Owner "Casto Abundo"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6 8. Qd2
Qxb2 9. Rb1 Qa3 10. e5 h6 11. Bh4 dxe5 12. fxe5 Nfd7 13. Ne4 Qxa2 14. Rd1 Qd5
15. Qe3 Qxe5 16. Be2 Bc5 17. Bg3 Bxd4 18. Rxd4 Qa5+ 19. Rd2 O-O 20. Bd6 Re8 21.
O-O f5 22. Qg3 Nc6 23. Qg6 Qd8 24. Bc4 Kh8 25. Ng5 Qxg5 26. Qxe8+ Kh7 27. Bf4
Qg6 28. Qxg6+ Kxg6 29. Bxe6 Nf6 30. Bc4 Kh7 31. Bc7 a5 32. Ra1 a4 33. Bb5 Ne4
34. Rd3 Nb4 35. Rd8 a3 36. Bd7 Nxc2 37. Rf1 Bxd7 38. Rxa8 Be6 39. Be5 Ng5 40.
Rf2 Bb3 41. Rxf5 Kg6 42. Rf1 a2 43. Ra7 Ne3 44. Rxb7 Bd5 45. Rxg7+ Kh5 46. Rc1
Nxg2 47. Kf2 Nh3+ 48. Ke2 Nh4 49. Ba1 Be4 50. Rc4 Bb1 51. Rg3 Ng5 52. Rb3 Nf5
53. Kd1 Ne4 54. Kc1 Kg5 55. Rf3 Kg4 56. Ra3 Kf4 57. Rc8 Nf2 58. Rcc3 Ne4 59.
Rf3+ Kg4 60. h3+ Kg5 61. Ra5 Ned6 62. Ra4 Ne4 63. Rb4 Nfd6 64. Kb2 Nf5 65. Rb5
Ned6 66. Rc5 Nb7 67. Rc4 Nbd6 68. Rg4+ Kh5 69. Rgf4 Kg6 70. Kc1 Kg5 71. Rg4+
Kh5 72. Ra4 Kg6 73. Rff4 Nc8 74. Ra5 Ncd6 75. h4 Kf7 76. Re5 Kg6 77. Kb2 Kf6
78. Kb3 Kf7 79. Ra4 Kg6 80. Ra6 Kf7 81. h5 Kf6 82. Kb4 Kf7 83. Ra7+ Kf6 84. Rd7
Kg5 85. Rxd6 1-0

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Re: Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

Post by Uri Blass » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:55 am

I wonder if there is a tactical reason that Fritz did not play 22...fxe4

[D]rnb1r1k1/1p1n2p1/p2Bp2p/q4p2/4N3/6Q1/2PRB1PP/5RK1 b - - 0 22

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Re: Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

Post by M ANSARI » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:00 am

Hmmm .... Junior must have taken a peek at my private book. I guess I cannot use this line anymore. In this position

[d]rnb1r1k1/1p1n2p1/p2Bp2p/q4p2/4N3/4Q3/2PRB1PP/5RK1 w - f6 0 22

White plays Qg3! ... I have this move in my book and was hoping to use that sometime ... so much for that :(

I have analyzed this move some time back and find that actually taking the Knight is not possible due to Qg6! ... and now if black is careless and plays ... Rd8 Rf7 Qa1+? ... then Rd1 Qc3 ...


[d]rnbr2k1/1p1n1Rp1/p2Bp1Qp/8/4p3/2q5/2P1B1PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 26


and now Rdf1!! is .... hehe ... well its curtains. Other moves such as Qc3 first don't get you mated quickly but leave white with a very big +.

I would be really interested to know if Junior managed this opening by itself or if was book preparation. I am inclined to guess it was book preparation ... which goes to show how important this is ... and how rich chess is. The deeper you go into a variation the more you discover the mysteries that are hidden deep deep inside.

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Re: Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

Post by Leto » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:07 am

Junior was out of book after Fritz' 20...Re8, and Fritz was out of book after it played 29...Nf6. According to the Chessbase article, the new move was Junior's 27.Bf4

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Re: Deep Junior vs. Deep Fritz -- Game 3: 1-0 (Junior wins)

Post by Uri Blass » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:08 am

Leto wrote:Junior was out of book after Fritz' 20...Re8, and Fritz was out of book after it played 29...Nf6. According to the Chessbase article, the new move was Junior's 27.Bf4
I am surprised that the book was so long and it seems clear to me that the position after 29 moves is clearly better for white.

I am surprised that the fritz team did not evaluate the position correctly
but maybe it is typical for them to overevaluate pawns.

[D]r1b5/1p4p1/p1n1Bnkp/5p2/5B2/8/2PR2PP/5RK1 w - - 0 30

Based on my understanding white is clearly better here because white has better developement and pair of bishops.

My logical conclusion after capturing the rook at e8 is that white is simply better and the line is no good for black.


I tried many programs and it seems that out of my programs only Fritz8 and shredder9 believes that it is better for black

530: Deep Junior - Deep Fritz, Friend mode
r1b5/1p4p1/p1n1Bnkp/5p2/5B2/8/2PR2PP/5RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

30.Be6-d5 Nf6xd5 31.Rd2xd5 Kg6-f7 32.Rf1-d1 Bc8-e6 33.Rd5-d3 b7-b5
³ (-0.44) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 44kN
30.Be6-b3!
³ (-0.41) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 52kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 b7-b5 32.Bb3-d5 Bc8-b7 33.g2-g4 b5-b4 34.g4xf5+
³ (-0.31) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 60kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Bc8-e6 33.Rf1-d1 Ra8-e8
³ (-0.44) Depth: 8/18 00:00:00 104kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Bc8-e6 33.Rf1-d1 Ra8-e8 34.c2-c3
³ (-0.37) Depth: 9/21 00:00:00 280kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Bc8-e6 33.Rf1-b1 Nc6-b4 34.Rd3-d4 Ra8-c8
³ (-0.59) Depth: 10/23 00:00:00 648kN
30.Be6-c4!
³ (-0.56) Depth: 10/23 00:00:01 1101kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Rd3-a3 Nc6-d4 33.c2-c3 Bc8-e6 34.Bc4-d3 Nd4-c6
³ (-0.53) Depth: 10/23 00:00:01 1186kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Rd3-a3 Nc6-d4 33.Bc4-d3 a5-a4 34.c2-c3 Nd4-e6 35.Bf4-e5
³ (-0.41) Depth: 11/25 00:00:02 2954kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Rd3-a3 Kg6-f6 33.Bc4-d3 g7-g5 34.Bf4-c7 Ne4-c5 35.g2-g3 Nc5xd3 36.Ra3xd3
³ (-0.37) Depth: 12/26 00:00:07 7870kN
30.Be6-c4 a6-a5 31.Rd2-d3 a5-a4 32.Rd3-g3+ Kg6-h7 33.Rg3-a3 g7-g5 34.Bf4-c7 Nc6-d4 35.Bc4-d3 Nf6-e4 36.c2-c3 Nd4-e6
³ (-0.41) Depth: 13/29 00:00:21 25474kN

(, 09.06.2007)

530: Deep Junior - Deep Fritz, Friend mode
r1b5/1p4p1/p1n1Bnkp/5p2/5B2/8/2PR2PP/5RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 9 UCI:

30.Be6xc8
² (0.38) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8
² (0.27) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4
² (0.57) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4
² (0.57) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4
= (-0.09) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4 a6-a5
= (-0.09) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8
= (-0.04) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8
² (0.31) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Kg1-f2
² (0.31) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2
² (0.55) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 a6-a5
² (0.55) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 a6-a5
² (0.27) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d5
= (0.18) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4
² (0.28) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d5
² (0.28) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4
³ (-0.29) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d5 a6-a5
³ (-0.29) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8
= (-0.10) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Rf1-b1 Nf6-e4 32.Rd2-d7
= (-0.10) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2
= (-0.03) Depth: 4/17 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 Nc6-b4 31.Ba2-c4 a6-a5
= (-0.03) Depth: 4/17 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 b7-b6 32.Ba2-d5
= (0.09) Depth: 5/17 00:00:00
30.Be6-a2 Nf6-e4
= (-0.16) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 17kN
30.Be6-a2 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 Nc6-b4 32.Ba2-b3 a6-a5
³ (-0.39) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 17kN
30.Be6xc8
³ (-0.38) Depth: 6/20 00:00:00 24kN
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Rf1-b1 Nf6-e4 32.Rd2-d7 b7-b5 33.Kg1-f1
= (-0.13) Depth: 6/20 00:00:00 27kN
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Rf1-b1 b7-b5 32.Rd2-d6 Kg6-f7 33.Kg1-f1 Nf6-e4
= (-0.15) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 43kN
30.Be6-d5
= (-0.14) Depth: 7/23 00:00:00 60kN
30.Be6-d5 Nf6xd5 31.Rd2xd5 a6-a5 32.Rf1-a1 Kg6-f6
= (-0.14) Depth: 7/23 00:00:00 61kN
30.Be6-b3
= (-0.13) Depth: 7/23 00:00:00 64kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Bc8-e6 33.Rf1-d1
= (-0.05) Depth: 7/23 00:00:01 66kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4
³ (-0.30) Depth: 8/12 00:00:01 92kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 Kg6-f6 32.Bb3-a2
³ (-0.32) Depth: 8/14 00:00:01 98kN
30.Be6xc8
³ (-0.31) Depth: 8/25 00:00:01 123kN
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Rf1-b1 b7-b5 32.Kg1-f1 Nf6-e4 33.Rd2-d7 Kg6-f6 34.Rb1-d1
= (-0.11) Depth: 8/25 00:00:01 131kN
30.Be6xc8 Ra8xc8 31.Rf1-b1 b7-b5 32.Rd2-d6 Kg6-f7
³ (-0.33) Depth: 9/18 00:00:02 206kN
30.Be6-b3
³ (-0.32) Depth: 9/26 00:00:02 252kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 a6-a5 32.Bb3-d5 Nc6-b4 33.Bd5-b3 b7-b5 34.Bf4-e5
= (-0.23) Depth: 9/26 00:00:02 263kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Nc6-b4 33.Rd3-d4 b7-b6 34.Bf4-d6 Bc8-a6
³ (-0.35) Depth: 10/18 00:00:02 353kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Bb3-a4 Kg6-f7 33.Bf4-c7
³ (-0.30) Depth: 11/23 00:00:04 727kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d5 a6-a5 32.Bf4-e3 a5-a4
³ (-0.42) Depth: 12/24 00:00:05 1361kN
30.Be6-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d3 a6-a5 32.Rf1-a1 b7-b5
³ (-0.48) Depth: 13/26 00:00:07 2948kN
30.Be6-c4
³ (-0.47) Depth: 13/36 00:00:07 3935kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 Kg6-f6 32.Bf4-c1
= (-0.23) Depth: 13/36 00:00:07 4156kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 a6-a5 32.Bf4-d6 Ra8-a7 33.Rf1-f3 b7-b6 34.Kg1-f1
³ (-0.31) Depth: 14/28 00:00:08 5276kN
30.Be6-c4 Nf6-e4 31.Rd2-d1 a6-a5 32.Bf4-d6 a5-a4 33.Bd6-a3 Nc6-e5 34.Bc4-d5 Ne4-c3 35.Rd1-e1 Nc3xd5 36.Re1xe5 Ra8-a5 37.c2-c4
³ (-0.29) Depth: 15/28 00:00:14 8905kN

(, 09.06.2007)

Fritz8 overevaluate pawns even later and believes that the passed pawns are more important than the exchange.

530: Deep Junior - Deep Fritz, Friend mode
[D]r1bR4/1pBB2pk/7p/5p2/4n3/p7/2n3PP/5RK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

37...Bc8xd7--
µ (-1.19) Depth: 7/15 00:00:00 20kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6
µ (-1.19) Depth: 7/26 00:00:00 38kN
37...Bc8xd7!
-+ (-1.47) Depth: 8/19 00:00:00 68kN
37...Bc8xd7--
µ (-1.19) Depth: 9/19 00:00:00 174kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6
µ (-1.19) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 210kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6 39.Bc7-e5 Nc2-e3 40.Ra8xa3 Ne3-c4 41.Ra3-b3 Nc4xe5 42.Rb3xb7 Ne5-d3 43.Rf1-b1
µ (-1.16) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 549kN
37...Bc8xd7--
µ (-0.88) Depth: 11/25 00:00:00 1115kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6 39.Bc7-e5 b7-b5 40.Rf1-c1 Be6-b3 41.Rc1xc2 Bb3xc2 42.Ra8xa3 g7-g5 43.Ra3-a2 Bc2-d3
³ (-0.66) Depth: 11/25 00:00:01 1532kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6 39.Rf1-c1 Nc2-d4 40.Rc1-a1 a3-a2 41.Ra8xa2
³ (-0.66) Depth: 12/27 00:00:02 3573kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6 39.Ra8-a7 g7-g5 40.Bc7-e5 Kh7-g6 41.Rf1-c1 Nc2-e3 42.Be5-d4 Ne3-c4 43.Ra7xb7 a3-a2 44.Kg1-f1
³ (-0.44) Depth: 13/28 00:00:07 10225kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6 39.Ra8-a7 g7-g5 40.Bc7-e5 Kh7-g6 41.Rf1-c1 Nc2-e3 42.Be5-d4 Ne3-c4 43.Ra7xb7 a3-a2
³ (-0.44) Depth: 14/30 00:00:19 26392kN
37...Bc8xd7--
= (-0.16) Depth: 15/34 00:00:50 69238kN
37...Bc8xd7 38.Rd8xa8 Bd7-e6
= (-0.16) Depth: 15/35 00:00:53 73954kN

(, 09.06.2007)

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