Galjoen 0.41 released

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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
I have the same problem. Not as critical as 4 of 5, but it loses on time a lot, yes.

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231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
231 - Galjoen 0.41 Gauntlet.pgn:[Termination "time forfeit"]
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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CMCanavessi wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:39 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
I have the same problem. Not as critical as 4 of 5, but it loses on time a lot, yes.
I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
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Re: Galjoen 0.41.1

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This version has an extra test in the time manager
and a new option 'MoveOverhead'

It should be more robust at short time controls.
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Carlos777 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:48 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
At what time control?
TC 1'+1"
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Gregory Owett wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:07 pm
Carlos777 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:48 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
At what time control?
TC 1'+1"
Same here, + ponder on
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Gregory Owett wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:07 pm
Carlos777 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:48 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
At what time control?
TC 1'+1"
That is the same TC I use and the previous version lost on time frequently. Maybe it is designed to play standard TC like 40/5 repeating.
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Carlos777 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:30 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:07 pm
Carlos777 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:48 pm
Gregory Owett wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 pm Unfortunately, it loses on time too often ( 4/5 ). :cry:
At what time control?
TC 1'+1"
That is the same TC I use and the previous version lost on time frequently. Maybe it is designed to play standard TC like 40/5 repeating.
It's possible. I will try by a longer TC, eg. 3 '+ 2 "
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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I've aborted my FRC tests. After 400 games it is showing -45 Elo. I understand from our standard chess testers that the position there is similar.
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Re: Galjoen 0.41 released

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Modern Times wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:33 pm After 400 games it is showing -45 Elo.
Thanks for the feedback. I usually test at shorter time controls than CCRL. I see now that Galjoen becomes weaker at longer time controls, indeed.
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Galjoen 0.41.2 released

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- The problem with time forfeits should be solved now.
- IID is back in.
- Galjoen doesn't use polling anymore. When it's not its turn, Galjoen should use zero CPU time.
- This should be the strongest version. At least in self play it is, although by a small margin.