Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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S.Taylor
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Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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I havn't sparred with chess computers for some time now.
But i just found and downloaded this engine on my android, and it seems unbelievably strong even on instant level.
It's from chess.com
I'd be interested if anyone has experience with it.
But i would also like challenge any human here to win one game against it on instant, level 25, taking as long as you like with your own moves. And i give you up to 10 chances to achieve that!
The challenge is to win one game out of ten!
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
Milos
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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Milos wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
When you say you played, you mean you opperated chess.com app at level 25, instant?
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:34 am I haven't sparred with chess computers for some time now.
But i just found and downloaded this engine on my android, and it seems unbelievably strong even on instant level.
It's from chess.com
I'd be interested if anyone has experience with it.
But i would also like challenge any human here to win one game against it on instant, level 25, taking as long as you like with your own moves. And i give you up to 10 chances to achieve that!
The challenge is to win one game out of ten!
:roll: :mrgreen: :roll:
Last edited by Chessqueen on Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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Milos wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
Stockfish will NOT, but Komodo at Depth 11 which is Skill 24 will; I believe that SF at different Depths does NOT play as well a Komodo. Where can I download this App?
Do NOT worry and be happy, we all live a short life :roll:
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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Chessqueen wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:02 pm
Milos wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
Stockfish will NOT, but Komodo at Depth 11 which is Skill 24 will; I believe that SF at different Depths does NOT play as well a Komodo. Where can I download this App?
Here is a game between Stockfish at Depth 11 Versus Komodo13.3 at Depth 11 which is Skill = 24 Stockfish was running out of time and lost on time :roll:

[pgn][Event "Blitz:10'+5sec vs Skill 24""]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo 13.3 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "86"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

{128MB, Shredder8.ctg} 1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. Qc2 Bb4 6. e3
O-O 7. Bd3 c5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Bxf3 10. gxf3 g6 11. d5 e5 12. e4 Qe7 13. Bg5
Qd6 14. Rg1 Re8 15. Qd2 Nh5 16. Rg4 Kh8 17. O-O-O f6 18. Be3 Qe7 19. Bh6 a6 20.
Bc2 d6 21. Ba4 Rg8 22. Bc6 Ra7 23. Kb2 Rc8 24. Ba4 Nd7 25. Bc6 b5 26. cxb5 Nb6
27. Qe2 axb5 28. Qxb5 Rb8 29. Kc2 Rxa3 30. Rb1 Qa7 31. Kd1 Ra5 32. Qd3 Nc4 33.
Rxb8+ Qxb8 34. Qc2 g5 35. Ke2 Ra1 36. Ba4 Rb1 37. h4 Nf4+ 38. Rxf4
1-0[/pgn]
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

Post by Chessqueen »

Chessqueen wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:10 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:02 pm
Milos wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
Stockfish will NOT, but Komodo at Depth 11 which is Skill 24 will; I believe that SF at different Depths does NOT play as well a Komodo. Where can I download this App?
Here is a game between Stockfish at Depth 11 Versus Komodo13.3 at Depth 11 which is Skill = 24 Stockfish was running out of time and lost on time :roll:

[pgn][Event "Blitz:10'+5sec vs Skill 24""]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo 13.3 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "86"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

{128MB, Shredder8.ctg} 1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. Qc2 Bb4 6. e3
O-O 7. Bd3 c5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Bxf3 10. gxf3 g6 11. d5 e5 12. e4 Qe7 13. Bg5
Qd6 14. Rg1 Re8 15. Qd2 Nh5 16. Rg4 Kh8 17. O-O-O f6 18. Be3 Qe7 19. Bh6 a6 20.
Bc2 d6 21. Ba4 Rg8 22. Bc6 Ra7 23. Kb2 Rc8 24. Ba4 Nd7 25. Bc6 b5 26. cxb5 Nb6
27. Qe2 axb5 28. Qxb5 Rb8 29. Kc2 Rxa3 30. Rb1 Qa7 31. Kd1 Ra5 32. Qd3 Nc4 33.
Rxb8+ Qxb8 34. Qc2 g5 35. Ke2 Ra1 36. Ba4 Rb1 37. h4 Nf4+ 38. Rxf4
1-0[/pgn]

I believe that Stockfish lost because it was running out of time, but even if the Queen get trapped Komodo would still had the better game :mrgreen:

[pgn][Event "Blitz:10'+5sec vs Skill 24""]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo 13.3 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "86"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

{128MB, Shredder8.ctg} 1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. Qc2 Bb4 6. e3
O-O 7. Bd3 c5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Bxf3 10. gxf3 g6 11. d5 e5 12. e4 Qe7 13. Bg5
Qd6 14. Rg1 Re8 15. Qd2 Nh5 16. Rg4 Kh8 17. O-O-O f6 18. Be3 Qe7 19. Bh6 a6 20.
Bc2 d6 21. Ba4 Rg8 22. Bc6 Ra7 23. Kb2 Rc8 24. Ba4 Nd7 25. Bc6 b5 26. cxb5 Nb6
27. Qe2 axb5 28. Qxb5 Rb8 29. Kc2 Rxa3 30. Rb1 Qa7 31. Kd1 Ra5 32. Qd3 Nc4 33.
Rxb8+ Qxb8 34. Qc2 g5 35. Ke2 Ra1 36. Ba4 Rb1 37. h4 Nf4+ 38. Rxf4 Rb2
39. Rxf6 39.Rxc2+ 40. Bxc2[/pgn]
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
Does this engine have a name? Whats the Apk?...... :D :wink:
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Re: Sure no one here can beat this simple free smartphone engine!

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Chessqueen wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:10 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:02 pm
Milos wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
S.Taylor wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:39 am I'm sure this engine, for your pocket android, and free, is way way stronger than the monster deeper blue that beat kasparov in 1997.
I have no idea which engine is behind, but I played against SF fixed depth 10 and SF lost after some struggle. Than I tried SF depth 16 and it totally mopped the floor with chess.com app engine level 25.
Somehow I don't think that SF depth 16 would easily beat Carlsen or Kasparov. SF depth 16 makes on average around 2M nodes per move in opening. Around 10000 times less nodes than what Deep Blue was evaluating per move in opening.
Stockfish will NOT, but Komodo at Depth 11 which is Skill 24 will; I believe that SF at different Depths does NOT play as well a Komodo. Where can I download this App?
Here is a game between Stockfish at Depth 11 Versus Komodo13.3 at Depth 11 which is Skill = 24 Stockfish was running out of time and lost on time :roll:

[pgn][Event "Blitz:10'+5sec vs Skill 24""]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo 13.3 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "86"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

{128MB, Shredder8.ctg} 1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. Qc2 Bb4 6. e3
O-O 7. Bd3 c5 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Bxf3 10. gxf3 g6 11. d5 e5 12. e4 Qe7 13. Bg5
Qd6 14. Rg1 Re8 15. Qd2 Nh5 16. Rg4 Kh8 17. O-O-O f6 18. Be3 Qe7 19. Bh6 a6 20.
Bc2 d6 21. Ba4 Rg8 22. Bc6 Ra7 23. Kb2 Rc8 24. Ba4 Nd7 25. Bc6 b5 26. cxb5 Nb6
27. Qe2 axb5 28. Qxb5 Rb8 29. Kc2 Rxa3 30. Rb1 Qa7 31. Kd1 Ra5 32. Qd3 Nc4 33.
Rxb8+ Qxb8 34. Qc2 g5 35. Ke2 Ra1 36. Ba4 Rb1 37. h4 Nf4+ 38. Rxf4
1-0[/pgn]
Sorry friend but you have serious issues. You run fixed depth match and one of the engines looses on time???
And you are not even aware on how many levels is that wrong...