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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by AdminX » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:04 pm

Werewolf wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:57 pm
AdminX wrote:
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If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well
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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by JohnW » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:39 pm

AdminX wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:41 am
If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
Exactly what I was thinking when I first read the topic of this post. I still use it now and then using DOS BOX

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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by Raphexon » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:00 pm

Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.

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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by Michel » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:13 pm

PK wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:48 am
Psion Chess by Richard Lang (https://www.retrogames.cz/play_430-DOS.php) I played a lot of games against it as a boy, and over the course of one summer holiday proceeded from losing at level one to winning at next-to-last level. I remember the engine as very stable, level-headed opponent. Also, it did have some form of (limited) learning.
I concur. I actually once hacked dropbox to screen scrape the Psion Chess screen (a bitmap!) to read its moves so that it could be used as a UCI engine but I became appalled by the ugliness of this approach, and I did not complete the protocol part. It would be much nicer to read Psion Chess' memory directly but unfortunately I am bad at reverse engineering.
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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by Rebel » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:19 pm

Steve Maughan wrote:
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+1 for MChess.

A couple of years ago I briefly corresponded with Marty. At that time he didn't rule out a new version of MChess. It had "maybe-one-day" status.

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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by Steve Maughan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:49 pm

Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

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Ask Marty for the source code?

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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by mclane » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:13 pm

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:50 am
AdminX wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:41 am
If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
MChess is great. But I think I'd like to try Socrates or maybe even better, Chess System Tal as a UCI/WB engine.

Either of those would be fantastic...but so would MChess of course.

(Did my posts of today get you thinking about Golden Oldies? :lol: :wink: )
As someone who has the source code of chess system tal, I would honestly like to bring Cstal into uci.

Also Mchess and chess tiger are good candidates.

They all have something no other engine has.
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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by mclane » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:15 pm

Steve Maughan wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:49 pm
Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

Steve
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:19 pm
Ask Marty for the source code?

It's all we need to move these oldies into the 21th century.
I am in contact with marty on a manly basis.

I tried to convince him to port it to uci.

But so far unsuccessful.
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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by mclane » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:16 pm

Raphexon wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:00 pm
Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.
If ancient I would prefer the selective engines, not the a strategy engines,
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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

Post by mclane » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:17 pm

Werewolf wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:57 pm
AdminX wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:41 am
If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well
I run mchess on my mobile android phone, works very well,
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