If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

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Re: If there were one engine I could bring back and covert

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Werewolf wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:57 pm
AdminX wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well
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AdminX wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
Exactly what I was thinking when I first read the topic of this post. I still use it now and then using DOS BOX
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Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.
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PK wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:48 am Psion Chess by Richard Lang (https://www.retrogames.cz/play_430-DOS.php) I played a lot of games against it as a boy, and over the course of one summer holiday proceeded from losing at level one to winning at next-to-last level. I remember the engine as very stable, level-headed opponent. Also, it did have some form of (limited) learning.
I concur. I actually once hacked dropbox to screen scrape the Psion Chess screen (a bitmap!) to read its moves so that it could be used as a UCI engine but I became appalled by the ugliness of this approach, and I did not complete the protocol part. It would be much nicer to read Psion Chess' memory directly but unfortunately I am bad at reverse engineering.
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Steve Maughan wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:16 pm +1 for MChess.

A couple of years ago I briefly corresponded with Marty. At that time he didn't rule out a new version of MChess. It had "maybe-one-day" status.

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Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

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Rebel wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:19 pm Ask Marty for the source code?

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BrendanJNorman wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:50 am
AdminX wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
MChess is great. But I think I'd like to try Socrates or maybe even better, Chess System Tal as a UCI/WB engine.

Either of those would be fantastic...but so would MChess of course.

(Did my posts of today get you thinking about Golden Oldies? :lol: :wink: )
As someone who has the source code of chess system tal, I would honestly like to bring Cstal into uci.

Also Mchess and chess tiger are good candidates.

They all have something no other engine has.
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Steve Maughan wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:49 pm Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

Steve
Rebel wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:19 pm Ask Marty for the source code?

It's all we need to move these oldies into the 21th century.
I am in contact with marty on a manly basis.

I tried to convince him to port it to uci.

But so far unsuccessful.
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Raphexon wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:00 pm Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.
If ancient I would prefer the selective engines, not the a strategy engines,
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Werewolf wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:57 pm
AdminX wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess. :D
You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well
I run mchess on my mobile android phone, works very well,
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