In no case.
I know that exactly
Fritz 17
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Re: Fritz 17
Is it possible to buy Fat Fritz as a standalone NN Engine ? I'm only interested in the NN part.
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Re: Fritz 17
Of course? If you need GPL software (modified) to obtain them, how can they be outside the purview of the GPL license? Shouldn't it be possible to sell them back, as stated in the quoted text?dkappe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:06 pmOf course the network weights are not covered by the GPL but by whatever license ChessBase applies to it.The people to whom you sold copies of GPL software are just as free as you are to make copies and sell them for whatever price they feel is right, including a price equal to zero.
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Re: Fritz 17
This could be a clue as to what will be the engine in fritz 17
https://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2017/11 ... ngine.html
https://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2017/11 ... ngine.html
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Re: Fritz 17
The same way documents created with Libre Office aren't covered by GPL or programs compiled with GCC aren't automatically GPL'ed. GPL applies to software not to things created with it.
Of course? If you need GPL software (modified) to obtain them, how can they be outside the purview of the GPL license? Shouldn't it be possible to sell them back, as stated in the quoted text?
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Re: Fritz 17
You can create office documents with many different programs.OneTrickPony wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:27 pmThe same way documents created with Libre Office aren't covered by GPL or programs compiled with GCC aren't automatically GPL'ed. GPL applies to software not to things created with it.
Of course? If you need GPL software (modified) to obtain them, how can they be outside the purview of the GPL license? Shouldn't it be possible to sell them back, as stated in the quoted text?
You can compile with one of several options.
What office suites and compilers have in common, is the vast variety of end results you obtain when working with them. Lc0's GPL'ed software, on the other hand, has... how many different outcomes? Or the other way around, how many programs can generate chess NN weights?
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Re: Fritz 17
2 x abaci or abacuses ..Harvey Williamson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 pm This could be a clue as to what will be the engine in fritz 17
https://chesstroid.blogspot.com/2017/11 ... ngine.html
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Re: Fritz 17
Without getting into a long legal wrangling, it’s analogous to documents or spreadsheets written with GPL software, or even code that is compiled with a GPL’d compiler. They aren’t covered by the GPL.Ozymandias wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:43 pmOf course? If you need GPL software (modified) to obtain them, how can they be outside the purview of the GPL license? Shouldn't it be possible to sell them back, as stated in the quoted text?dkappe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:06 pmOf course the network weights are not covered by the GPL but by whatever license ChessBase applies to it.The people to whom you sold copies of GPL software are just as free as you are to make copies and sell them for whatever price they feel is right, including a price equal to zero.
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Re: Fritz 17
It's a bad analogy. In addition to what I already explained, you need this particular GPL software to make any use of the weights, at all.dkappe wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:04 pmWithout getting into a long legal wrangling, it’s analogous to documents or spreadsheets written with GPL software, or even code that is compiled with a GPL’d compiler. They aren’t covered by the GPL.Ozymandias wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:43 pmOf course? If you need GPL software (modified) to obtain them, how can they be outside the purview of the GPL license? Shouldn't it be possible to sell them back, as stated in the quoted text?dkappe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:06 pmOf course the network weights are not covered by the GPL but by whatever license ChessBase applies to it.The people to whom you sold copies of GPL software are just as free as you are to make copies and sell them for whatever price they feel is right, including a price equal to zero.
Legal discussions surely have a little bit of internal coherence. So, what would make anyone place Lc0 on the same category as an office suite?