Fritz 17

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw

sainzlei
Posts: 29
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:20 am

Fritz 17

Post by sainzlei »

smatovic
Posts: 2641
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:18 pm
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Full name: Srdja Matovic

Re: Fritz 17

Post by smatovic »

sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
Jouni
Posts: 3281
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm

Re: Fritz 17

Post by Jouni »

First commercial NN engine!
Jouni
User avatar
Nordlandia
Posts: 2821
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:38 pm
Location: Sortland, Norway

Re: Fritz 17

Post by Nordlandia »

Available next month right?
User avatar
Guenther
Posts: 4605
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 am
Location: Regensburg, Germany
Full name: Guenther Simon

Re: Fritz 17

Post by Guenther »

smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm
sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
They say now clearly it is based on LC0 and the modifications for Fat Fritz can be found at github.
But where is the link to that mysterious FatFritz github?

Code: Select all

Fat Fritz basiert auf LCZero. LCZero ist ein Open-Source-Projekt, das über GPL v3 lizenziert ist.
Den Quellcode von LCZero und die Modifikationen für Fat Fritz finden Sie bei Github.
Some users will be tricked though, because the needed strong nvidia gpu is just a little side note for 'Fritz 17' in the description
and those who will run their new 'F17' will be surprised ;-)
https://rwbc-chess.de

trollwatch:
Chessqueen + chessica + AlexChess + Eduard + Sylwy
smatovic
Posts: 2641
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:18 pm
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Full name: Srdja Matovic

Re: Fritz 17

Post by smatovic »

Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm
smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm
sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
They say now clearly it is based on LC0 and the modifications for Fat Fritz can be found at github.
But where is the link to that mysterious FatFritz github?
ChessBase sent me in September, per request, two links to an LC0 fork on GitHub:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=71831&start=10#p813130

Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm

Code: Select all

Fat Fritz basiert auf LCZero. LCZero ist ein Open-Source-Projekt, das über GPL v3 lizenziert ist.
Den Quellcode von LCZero und die Modifikationen für Fat Fritz finden Sie bei Github.
Some users will be tricked though, because the needed strong nvidia gpu is just a little side note for 'Fritz 17' in the description
and those who will run their new 'F17' will be surprised ;-)
the_real_greco
Posts: 70
Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:55 am
Full name: Andy!

Re: Fritz 17

Post by the_real_greco »

Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm
smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm
sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
They say now clearly it is based on LC0 and the modifications for Fat Fritz can be found at github.
But where is the link to that mysterious FatFritz github?

Code: Select all

Fat Fritz basiert auf LCZero. LCZero ist ein Open-Source-Projekt, das über GPL v3 lizenziert ist.
Den Quellcode von LCZero und die Modifikationen für Fat Fritz finden Sie bei Github.
Some users will be tricked though, because the needed strong nvidia gpu is just a little side note for 'Fritz 17' in the description
and those who will run their new 'F17' will be surprised ;-)
My understanding was that F17 AND Fat Fritz were included, and only FF needs the GPUs? I'm reasonably sure F17 will run on CPU as normal.
Werewolf
Posts: 1795
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:24 pm

Re: Fritz 17

Post by Werewolf »

I know this is going to invite a storm, but how is this ethical? Are the Lc0 people happy with this?
dannyb
Posts: 78
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:08 pm
Full name: Daniel Bennett

Re: Fritz 17

Post by dannyb »

the_real_greco wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:10 pm
Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm
smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm
sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
They say now clearly it is based on LC0 and the modifications for Fat Fritz can be found at github.
But where is the link to that mysterious FatFritz github?

Code: Select all

Fat Fritz basiert auf LCZero. LCZero ist ein Open-Source-Projekt, das über GPL v3 lizenziert ist.
Den Quellcode von LCZero und die Modifikationen für Fat Fritz finden Sie bei Github.
Some users will be tricked though, because the needed strong nvidia gpu is just a little side note for 'Fritz 17' in the description
and those who will run their new 'F17' will be surprised ;-)
My understanding was that F17 AND Fat Fritz were included, and only FF needs the GPUs? I'm reasonably sure F17 will run on CPU as normal.
I guess you are right: you get Fritz 17 + FatFritz. I wonder how much Fritz 17 has improved.
User avatar
Guenther
Posts: 4605
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 am
Location: Regensburg, Germany
Full name: Guenther Simon

Re: Fritz 17

Post by Guenther »

smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:03 pm
Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm
smatovic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm
sainzlei wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm
https://www.niggemann.com/en/fritz-17-deutsch.html

Price US $88.91
Alright, then ChessBase will really ship Fat Fritz with it? Nice.

--
Srdja
They say now clearly it is based on LC0 and the modifications for Fat Fritz can be found at github.
But where is the link to that mysterious FatFritz github?
ChessBase sent me in September, per request, two links to an LC0 fork on GitHub:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=71831&start=10#p813130

Guenther wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:56 pm

Code: Select all

Fat Fritz basiert auf LCZero. LCZero ist ein Open-Source-Projekt, das über GPL v3 lizenziert ist.
Den Quellcode von LCZero und die Modifikationen für Fat Fritz finden Sie bei Github.
Some users will be tricked though, because the needed strong nvidia gpu is just a little side note for 'Fritz 17' in the description
and those who will run their new 'F17' will be surprised ;-)
Thanks Srdja, with that links I found the lastest 'FatFritz' source (first github link missed commits compared to the appveyor builds).
https://github.com/DanielUranga/lc0/tree/fritz
https://rwbc-chess.de

trollwatch:
Chessqueen + chessica + AlexChess + Eduard + Sylwy